Donald Trump Presidential Campaign Thread

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Crossbones said:
Many felt that once Clinton secured the nomination, she would rise in the polls.
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But somebody else pointed out, perhaps GaryTaylor, not 100% sure, that Trump also rose in the polls once he was presumed to be the nominee, so my question is is Clinton going through a similar thing, and then will she go back down again… I guess more polling will have to be revealed to see…
 
Thorolfr said:
But if a lot of Republicans in Utah vote, for example, for the Libertarian candidate like Mitt Romney has suggested he might do, this would divide the Republican vote and cause Clinton to carry Utah and its electoral college votes.
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While I voted for Romney and still believe he would have been a good president, I wish he would go away and quit commenting. His time has come and gone.
 
mary_bobo said:
While I voted for Romney and still believe he would have been a good president, I wish he would go away and quit commenting. His time has come and gone.
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Why should Romney go away and quit commenting? Considering that the Republican party has been taken over by a demagogue and a charlatan, he probably feels that he has a duty to speak up and couldn’t look his grandchildren in the eye if he had done nothing and remained silent.
 
Thorolfr said:
Why should Romney go away and quit commenting? Considering that the Republican party has been taken over by a demagogue and a charlatan, he probably feels that he has a duty to speak up and couldn’t look his grandchildren in the eye if he had done nothing and remained silent.
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Too bad the democrat party has no one with the courage to challenge their nomination of one of the most corrupt, anti-women candidates ever to be nominated for president
 
Thorolfr said:
Why should Romney go away and quit commenting? Considering that the Republican party has been taken over by a demagogue and a charlatan, he probably feels that he has a duty to speak up and couldn’t look his grandchildren in the eye if he had done nothing and remained silent.
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Indeed. 👍
 
_Abyssinia said:
But somebody else pointed out, perhaps GaryTaylor, not 100% sure, that Trump also rose in the polls once he was presumed to be the nominee, so my question is is Clinton going through a similar thing, and then will she go back down again… I guess more polling will have to be revealed to see…
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Sure, Trump will go back up when the Republican convention happens and then Hillary Clinton will go back up when the Democratic convention happens and then the real race begins.
 
Thorolfr said:
Why should Romney go away and quit commenting?
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Ideally a candidate should graciously clam up after losing, **but ** I don’t particularly expect it to happen. (Do you think Donald Trump will be a gracious loser if he doesn’t win the general election? Remember the speculations/predictions he made a couple months ago if he didn’t secure the nomination?)
 
estesbob said:
Too bad the democrat party has no one with the courage to challenge their nomination of one of the most corrupt, anti-women candidates ever to be nominated for president
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Unlike Republicans, Democrats are proud of their presumptive nominee. And well we should be. In no way, shape or form is she “corrupt” or “anti-woman.” But I understand that it makes some Republicans feel better to spread such tripe.
 
Little_Sheep said:
Unlike Republicans, Democrats are proud of their presumptive nominee. And well we should be. In no way, shape or form is she “corrupt” or “anti-woman.” But I understand that it makes some Republicans feel better to spread such tripe.
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Are there Republicans that have issues with some of the things that Trump says and has said in the past, yes, but whether Republicans are proud or not, they are in the overwhelming majority supportive of their nominee. This article says the average support Trump got in some polls from Republicans was 85%. Donald Trump has more support among Republicans than the Republican support for John McCain in 2008 and George W. Bush in 2000. Donald Trump even has a higher level of support among Republicans than Ronald Reagan got and some other Republican presidential nominees.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Are there Republicans that have issues with some of the things that Trump says and has said in the past, yes, but whether Republicans are proud or not, they are in the overwhelming majority supportive of their nominee. This article says the average support Trump got in some polls from Republicans was 85%. Donald Trump has more support among Republicans than the Republican support for John McCain in 2008 and George W. Bush in 2000. Donald Trump even has a higher level of support among Republicans than Ronald Reagan got and some other Republican presidential nominees.
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Sure, a goodly portion of the base might pull the lever for Trump. But the leadership of the Republican Party is mortified at the notion of Trump as the Party’s Standard-Bearer. I, personally, have always respected (though not always agreed with) the leadership of the Republican Party.

Maybe the base wants to burn things to the ground a la Mr. Trump. I suspect the vast majority of the rest of the country (just like the Republican leadership) doesn’t feel that way.

November’s not so far off. We’ll see what the people have to say then, I suspect.
 
Here’s what this poll says Americans say.

Hillary Clinton holds a double-digit lead over Donald Trump, according to a new national poll.
Clinton leads Trump 49% to 37% among likely general election voters. Gary Johnson 9%. Only 4% not sure and 1% not voting.

The same poll found 55% of those surveyed said they could never vote for Trump.

Additionally, President Barack Obama’s job approval rating is at 51%. This surpasses Ronald Reagan’s approval at a similar point in time of his Presidency.

time.com/4369220/hillary-clinton-lead-donald-trump-poll/

bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-14/bloomberg-politics-national-poll-june-2016
 
Peter_J said:
True. And it’s entirely surprising that they were right.

But it is still disappointing to me: granted I don’t want Trump for president, but that doesn’t mean I want Clinton for president!
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I’m hoping there is a third party that rises up, but I am concerned that it will suffer from the same problems as the main two (or worse, Bill Kristol leads the charge).
 
Little_Sheep said:
Sure, a goodly portion of the base might pull the lever for Trump. But the leadership of the Republican Party is mortified at the notion of Trump as the Party’s Standard-Bearer. I, personally, have always respected (though not always agreed with) the leadership of the Republican Party.

Maybe the base wants to burn things to the ground a la Mr. Trump. I suspect the vast majority of the rest of the country (just like the Republican leadership) doesn’t feel that way.

November’s not so far off. We’ll see what the people have to say then, I suspect.
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Who do you mean by “leadership”? I doubt a lot of Republicans are happy with Congress and the RNC and it really has no relevance to many Republicans whether they are super supportive of Trump or not, but I could be wrong. It may well have helped Trump throughout the primaries as not being seen as favourite of Congressional Republicans, for example.
 
Crossbones said:
I’m hoping there is a third party that rises up, but I am concerned that it will suffer from the same problems as the main two (or worse, Bill Kristol leads the charge).
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I’m hopeful (somewhat, anyhow) that we will see an evolution in Kristol’s approach. Maybe I’m underestimating him (I don’t think so) but I believe that any Republican that he gets to run in the general will just be a “fourth-party candidate” with no chance to win – and I would say the same about the Green Party candidate (Jill Stein) and my own party’s candidate (Darrel Castle).
 
I found this article from a few years ago and found it to be ironically interestingly humorous.

politico.com/story/2013/10/donald-trump-new-york-city-republicans-governor-098250
There is only one prospective candidate who could run on the GOP line and win against Cuomo in 2014 — Donald Trump,” a memo circulated by a GOP assemblyman read, as quoted by the New York Post.
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Trump said he was “very flattered’’ by the effort, which the paper reported is backed by state GOP Chairman Ed Cox and other party leaders.
However, Trump also noted that running for governor is “not something that I’ve ever even thought about.’’
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I don’t remember this at the time. I guess he’s thought it over and figured being governor of New York wasn’t tremendous enough.
 
Little_Sheep said:
Unlike Republicans, Democrats are proud of their presumptive nominee. And well we should be. In no way, shape or form is she “corrupt” or “anti-woman.”
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As one who may very well vote for Hillary this fall, “corrupt” has some reasonable basis for it.
 
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