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Had he endorsed Trump, people would of said, “Ronald Reagans son supports Trump”.

Double standards huh?
Theyvwould’ve been telling the truth then, wouldn’t they? 99.9% of conservatives could not care less but Michael Reagan has to say about anything
 
Had he endorsed Trump, people would of said, “Ronald Reagans son supports Trump”.

Double standards huh?
Well, seems to me that a lot of people will care about the aforementioned statement, and a lot of other people won’t. Much like a lot of people care about Newt Gingrich or Sarah Palin (she seems to have become pretty quiet recently, though I couldn’t say why) endorsing Trump, and a lot of other people don’t.

Personally, I think the most meaningful statement are the “it depends” statements, a la Paul Ryan. I don’t want to quote everything he said (see the article Paul Ryan Says He Is ‘Not Ready’ to Endorse Donald Trump) but e.g. “There’s a lot of questions that conservatives, I think, are going to want answers to.”
 
I was watching the same program yesterday and Michael Reagan also said his father, Ronald Reagan, would not be supporting Trump and that there is not even anything Reaganesque about Donald Trump.
Had he endorsed Trump, people would of said, “Ronald Reagans son supports Trump”.

Double standards huh?
Well, seems to me that a lot of people will care about the aforementioned statement, and a lot of other people won’t. Much like a lot of people care about Newt Gingrich or Sarah Palin (she seems to have become pretty quiet recently, though I couldn’t say why) endorsing Trump, and a lot of other people don’t.

Personally, I think the most meaningful statements are the “it depends” statements, a la Paul Ryan.

I don’t want to quote everything he said (see the article Paul Ryan Says He Is ‘Not Ready’ to Endorse Donald Trump) but e.g. “There’s a lot of questions that conservatives, I think, are going to want answers to.”
 
Crossbones;13965272]That’s funny, because Mitt Romney is worried about Trump changing America with ‘trickle-down racism’.
House Speaker Paul Ryan said Trump’s remarks on ‘textbook definition of a racist comment’.
Republican Congressman Reid Ribble said “If you continue to say what I believe are racist statements, you’re likely to be a racist.”
Joe Scarborough called on Republicans to denounce Trump’s ‘racist’ remarks.
And Florida State Senator Rene Garcia called Trump’s comments on Judge Curiel ‘blatantly racist remarks’.
Oh, so NOW the GOP is suddenly an authority for what’s racist and what’s to the left?

:rotfl:

My, that’s convenient.

And yet, liberals and Democrats just couldn’t bring themselves to help us elect Romney/Ryan as president/ice president in 2012.

Joe Scarborough? of MSNBC? Kidding, right? That’s like the left citing Alan Colmes or Kirsten Powers.
So, while you might think that Donald Trump has made no racist comments, many Republicans seem to disagree with you.
The reason why so many republicans disagree with me on nonsense like that (Islam and Mexican are not races, BTW) is the very reason we have Donald Trump.

It also highlights the difference. See, republican base voters don’t do what the party bosses/GOP elite ultimately tell them in a lot of cases nor agree with them, and this was a picture-perfect example.
 
Had he endorsed Trump, people would of said, “Ronald Reagans son supports Trump”.

Double standards huh?
:eek:

Um, no. Unless perhaps Hillary Clinton should also publicly list those Democrats who do not endorse her…
 
:eek:

Um, no. Unless perhaps Hillary Clinton should also publicly list those Democrats who do not endorse her…
So let’s say, Ted Cruz endorses Trump this week, should we say who cares or should we take it as a victory.

Btw I would like to see those who are democrats and don’t support Hillary or endorse her. She is not the best person for the job.
 
Why should anyone care what Michael Reagan says?
There seems to be this mentality that if someone who is famous or was made famous by a GOP President that we conservatives should listen to them at the behest of liberal and non-conservative advice.

What liberals and people who aren’t conservative need to realize is that Donald J. Trump is a rejection of all of that. That’s what the elites and the media don’t like.

One could also ask Bernie supporters why they didn’t just hush-up and know their place by following the presumptive Democratic nominee.

But I guess only conservatives are supposed to? I mean, do people who aren’t conservatives really need to resort to such tactics to win? 🤷
 
Two other recent polls on RealClearPolitics of Utah show Trump comfortably in the lead against Clinton, and I think one of those, the Gravis poll did poll regarding Johnson, but I don’t think the other poll did. What do you think of this poll?

Poll: Trump’s unpopularity could swing Utahns to Hillary

sltrib.com/news/3993058-155/poll-trumps-unpopularity-could-swing-utahns

Trump 35%, Clinton 35%, Johnson 13%
Well, given Trump’s narrow path for electoral college victory, losing Utah would be bad, because if you start with the 2012 map and flip Ohio, PA and Florida and then Utah goes Democratic, then Clinton would still win.
 
Oh, so NOW the GOP is suddenly an authority for what’s racist and what’s to the left?

:rotfl:

My, that’s convenient.

And yet, liberals and Democrats just couldn’t bring themselves to help us elect Romney/Ryan as president/ice president in 2012.

Joe Scarborough? of MSNBC? Kidding, right? That’s like the left citing Alan Colmes or Kirsten Powers.
I chose Republicans since I thought their views on politics would be more similar to your own (of course, Joe Scarborough is Republican and that show is pretty far right). I took it as a case of, if it is obvious even to these people, then it must be obvious to everyone. I guess not.
The reason why so many republicans disagree with me on nonsense like that (Islam and Mexican are not races, BTW) is the very reason we have Donald Trump.
It also highlights the difference. See, republican base voters don’t do what the party bosses/GOP elite ultimately tell them in a lot of cases nor agree with them, and this was a picture-perfect example.
So, we have Donald Trump because the Republican voters like his racist comments and the leadership can’t see that and wants to not be racist? I don’t understand what you are trying to say here.
 
Well, given Trump’s narrow path for electoral college victory, losing Utah would be bad, because if you start with the 2012 map and flip Ohio, PA and Florida and then Utah goes Democratic, then Clinton would still win.
I think Utah might be a swing state. But I don’t think if it flips it’ll go to Hillary. It might go to Johnson.
 
I chose Republicans since I thought their views on politics would be more similar to your own (of course, Joe Scarborough is Republican and that show is pretty far right). I took it as a case of, if it is obvious even to these people, then it must be obvious to everyone. I guess not.

So, we have Donald Trump because the Republican voters like his racist comments and the leadership can’t see that and wants to not be racist? I don’t understand what you are trying to say here.
To your second response.

Hispanics, blacks and Muslims will see Trumps comments as racist. Especially Hispanics.

I’m. It saying 0 Hispanics or blacks or Muslims will vote for Trump, but the number will be high of those who see trump as a racist and will not vote for him.

I think if you put Muslims, blacks and Hispanics in a pot, the numbers will be 80 to 20% for HRC?
 
To your second response.

Hispanics, blacks and Muslims will see Trumps comments as racist. Especially Hispanics.

I’m. It saying 0 Hispanics or blacks or Muslims will vote for Trump, but the number will be high of those who see trump as a racist and will not vote for him.

I think if you put Muslims, blacks and Hispanics in a pot, the numbers will be 80 to 20% for HRC?
Well, yeah, of course many others also see the comments as racist, but I was choosing Republicans because SuperLuigi may take those people more seriously than say, Jesse Jackson.
 
Well, yeah, of course many others also see the comments as racist, but I was choosing Republicans because SuperLuigi may take those people more seriously than say, Jesse Jackson.
I stated this before and I forgot to put it when I responded to your post about the racist comments.

I don’t think Trump is racist, but he is so close to that line that seperated racism and not racism.

I am not the ruler of who is racist and who isn’t.

But like I did say, as a whole, Hispanics, blacks and Muslim will see Trump as a racist.
 
I can’t really see that either.
But if a lot of Republicans in Utah vote, for example, for the Libertarian candidate like Mitt Romney has suggested he might do, this would divide the Republican vote and cause Clinton to carry Utah and its electoral college votes.
 
But if a lot of Republicans in Utah vote, for example, for the Libertarian candidate like Mitt Romney has suggested he might do, this would divide the Republican vote and cause Clinton to carry Utah and its electoral college votes.
This is true, whether we’re talking about Utah or wherever.

I think what it boils down to is this: Republican supporter of GEJ need to say (not necessarily in so many words) “If Johnson doesn’t also receive support from some Democrats, we will need to consider switching our support to Trump.”
 
What do you think of this new poll?
Influence of the events of the past week is evident in the most recent NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking Poll, which shows Clinton leading Trump by 7 points, 49 percent to 42 percent. The poll was conducted online June 6 through June 12 among 9,355 adults who say they are registered to vote.
Clinton’s gains over the past two weeks in the tracking poll are coming from increases in support among moderates, men and white voters. She narrowed Trump’s margin among men and white voters from double digits in last week’s poll to single digits this week. Clinton picked up 7 points among moderate voters this week and now leads Trump 58 percent to 33 percent among them.
Trump’s margin among male voters dropped from 14 points last week to 9 points this week and he now leads Clinton 51 percent to 42 percent. His 13-point margin among white voters last week also shrank to 9 points this week. White voters now favor Trump to Clinton 50 percent to 41 percent.
Given the potential political implications of the recent events in Orlando, results over the coming weeks could shift significantly.
nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-clinton-expands-lead-after-becoming-presumptive-nominee-n591531
 
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