Donald Trump Presidential Campaign Thread

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Monkey1976 said:
Funny, when people here say that they’ve got no problem with homosexual couples so long as they keep it private, we’re accused of being homophobic bigots and have businesses shut down.
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Personally, I don’t think that gay people should have to keep it private any more than straight people should have to hide their sexual orientation. I wouldn’t want to live in a place like Saudi Arabia where this is required of gay people. But despite Islamic condemnation of homosexuality, it’s also not as if lots of gay people in most Muslim countries are being executed right and left either.
 
it’s probably not as bad for them as he imagines:
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Thats probably what Hillary would say.

answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/homosexual.htm
Islam says that these acts are crimes, so civil penalties must be imposed on the sexual criminals.
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In its 1991 Constitution, Iran adopted the extreme punishment of execution for sodomy. Articles 108-113 say:
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Sodomy is a crime, for which both partners are punished. The punishment is death if the participants are adults, of sound mind and consenting; the method of execution is for the Shari’a judge to decide.
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Later on, the summary of the Constitution says that if the guilty repent, the judge may waive the penalty. But should this penalty exist in the first place? What is the source for this extreme law in the Iranian Constitution?
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On April 7, 2005, it was reported that Saudi Arabia sentenced more than 100 men to prison or flogging for “gay conduct.”
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On or about March 26, a Jeddah court, meeting in a closed session in which defense attorneys were excluded, sentenced 31 of the men to prison for six months to one year, and to 200 lashes each, for unreported offenses. Four other men received two years’ imprisonment and 2,000 lashes. Police released more than 70 of the men not long after their initial arrest; reports in the Saudi press suggested that personal contacts with the government had intervened on their behalf. However, on April 3, police summoned the 70 men back to a local police station and informed them that they had been sentenced to one year’s imprisonment.
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tomarin said:
The Saudi capital is a gay heaven? That would make for a memorable tourism campaign.
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I’ve talked to men who visited Saudi Arabia and reported frequently being propositioned for sex by other men when they were there.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Is that Kansas poll this poll, a John Zogby poll: kake.com/story/32193712/poll-kansas-voters-prefer-clinton-over-trump-many-undecided

? Seems a small sample, only 433 people.

Based on what I’ve read, Zogby doesn’t exactly have the best reputation as a pollster.
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IDK if its the same poll, but to even consider Kansas as a state that could be in play speaks alot about Donald trump. This is not HRC sweeping people off their feet with how well she presents as a president, its just consdering that Trump could be the POTUS scares people.
 
_Abyssinia said:
I’ve just looked at some articles and Trump could win without Florida but obviously it depends what other states that he would win in the calculation that he could get to 270 or over. But there is a pathway or pathways without states that are likely inconceivable for Trump like California or Washington D.C. say…
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If he loses Florida, other big states will go for HRC. States like Arizona, Nevada and Colorado, states with high hispanic population. Iowa, Wisconsin and possibly New Hampshire will go to her.

That would mean, he had to win Ohio, Pennsylvania, NH, NC, Virginia. If that happens I dont think he wins.

With that scenario; HRC 307, Trump 231

He has to win Florida, keep Arizona, with that the numbers would go in his favor
 
Latest Polls
Florida- HRC 47-39 Trump
Ohio- split 40% each
Pennsylvania- HRC 42 to 41 Trump
 
Trump is now criticizing the Republican party for his lack of success in fundraising and is threatening to abandon the Republican National Committee and the rest of the GOP ticket which usually relies on the GOP nominee to raise hundreds of millions for the national field organization.

Trump has hardly made any of the phone calls to potential donors or done any of the other fundraising that most candidates need to do.
 
Thorolfr said:
And Donald Trump said, “Ask yourself, who is really the friend of women and the LGBT community." He’s no friend of the LGBT community if he’s meeting with the likes of James Dobson from Focus on the Family and Tony Perkins from the Family Research Council.

:rolleyes:
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Did his foundation take 10s of millions of dollars from countries that execute gays?
Would you criticize Trump as being anti-gay if he met with the Pope?
 
chero23 said:
If he loses Florida, other big states will go for HRC. States like Arizona, Nevada and Colorado, states with high hispanic population. Iowa, Wisconsin and possibly New Hampshire will go to her.

That would mean, he had to win Ohio, Pennsylvania, NH, NC, Virginia. If that happens I dont think he wins.

With that scenario; HRC 307, Trump 231

He has to win Florida, keep Arizona, with that the numbers would go in his favor
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Why do you think if he loses Florida, other states will go to Clinton? I don’t see why that would necessary happen. I suspect Governor Rick Scott will be campaigning for Trump in Florida, he has endorsed Trump.
 
GaryTaylor said:
:nope: No idea what “you” mean. 🤷
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I’m sorry Gary. That was way too colloquial. I meant “Do you mean that Trump doesn’t know the positions of social conservatives already? Gee, that just screams how powerless the social conservatives are in the Republican party these days.”
 
Thorolfr said:
One short sentence hardly makes an article.
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If you’re having difficulty loading the entire page, allow me to help:
The Mirror:
Saudi Arabia is seeking to ‘raise the ceiling on the sanctions demanded by the prosecutor in cases of homosexuality to become a discretionary death penalty’

The country could make punishments for homosexuals more severe.
Saudi Arabia is reportedly pushing for harsher punishments on homosexuals and could even sentence gays to death.

According to Okaz newspaper, Saudi Arabia is seeking to ‘raise the ceiling on the sanctions demanded by the prosecutor in cases of homosexuality to become a discretionary death penalty’.

The death penalty could apply if the practice of homosexuality is ‘deliberate’ or ‘uses social media’, the paper claims.

A man was arrested for raising a gay pride flag over his home
Prosecutors in Jeddah have proposed the death penalty in response to dozens of cases they have prosecuted over the last six months - including 35 people who received prison sentences for sodomy.

Okaz also reported that authorities have prosecuted 50 cases in which men allegedly dressed as women.

A doctor who lives in the port city on the Red Sea has been released on bail after officials arrested him for allegedly raising an LGBT Pride flag over his home.

Under the country’s laws consensual homosexual acts are often legally indistinguishable from rape or paedophilia, so it is difficult to confirm data about gay people charged under Saudi Arabi’s justice system.

In defiance, social media users in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere have begun to use the hashtag, ‘You will not terrorise me, I’m gay’ on Twitter.
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Not exactly the Castro District of the Middle East, I’d say.
 
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