Donald Trump Presidential Campaign Thread

[Theo520]

So you don’t think that the economy was better under Clinton? I remember it being better then than what it was under G. W. Bush or now under Obama, too.

I remember the dot com boom!

Unless you are claiming credit for Gore cause he invented the internet, the president doesn’t get credit.

 

[chero23]

So you don’t think that the economy was better under Clinton? I remember it being better then than what it was under G. W. Bush or now under Obama, too.

I’m a minority and the economy was great under Clinton. Under Bush, I cannot complain but it was a little tense near the end of the administration of Bush bc of the recession. Things have gotten better in the last few years.

I’m not going to say that things are easy bc they are not. The country is in need of a lot of people in the medical field. Doctors, nurses, paramedics, firefighters, police just to name a few. These jobs are booming. Now that means going to school. How many people want to go to school and see that.

Stuff like MBA’s are also on high demand. Once again, the jobs are there, but school is needed. That was something that happened when the recession hit, that a Bachelor’s Degree was just the beginning and eventually we were going to need more in order to succeed in life.

 

[sallybutler]

I remember the dot com boom!

Unless you are claiming credit for Gore cause he invented the internet, the president doesn’t get credit.

It always seems funny to me how if one likes a President, than the President is responsible for a good economy, but not for a bad economy. If one does not like a President, then the President is not responsible for a good economy, but is for a bad economy.

Either every President is responsible or none are.

Personally, I lean toward less responsible than more. I think a lot has to do with what Congress and the Fed do or don’t do.

 

[Theo520]

It always seems funny to me how if one likes a President, than the President is responsible for a good economy, but not for a bad economy. If one does not like a President, then the President is not responsible for a good economy, but is for a bad economy.

Either every President is responsible or none are.

Personally, I lean toward less responsible than more. I think a lot has to do with what Congress and the Fed do or don’t do.

Presidents do deserve credit for specific policies and actions, but not a blanket tie with what happened.

I think Bill was capable and definitely did things that gave a short term boost to the economy, like NAFTA, tax cuts and welfare reform. But the dotcom technology boom was like a once in a century storm, neither party caused it to happen.

I look at the facts and what they did with what they had available.

 

[BernadetteM]

Sometimes I have to laugh at several of the posters posts. It must be nice to speculate about everything that Trump does and thinks. He has been honest enough to say he punches back when someone punches first. That is just part of his character and I think most of us would do the same thing if we had the ability, even as a Christian.

It appears that most here don’t really watch all the times Trump speaks, but read the media or watch the media to make their judgments. If one was to really do research there seems to be reasons for Trump’s fault of punching back. I can’t recall everything that he has done this to. I do remember that Ms Martinez made some pretty bad remarks about him before he said that New Mexico needed better representative as governor. Also during the debates if another candidate made a remark that Trump felt was wrong about him, he has the ability to punch harder.

Also why is it that everyone seems to jump on the band wagon against Trump and don’t actually research some of why he does what he does.

First no one has said anything about Cruz being a racist. If people were listening to one of the first debates, after Trump said he would send 11 million illegals back, but let them come back legally, if they were not criminals, Cruz said he would send them all back and they would never be allowed back into the U.S. Which man is more racist?

I believe that the candidates are fully responsible and know what their people are putting out there about the other candidates. I believe that Cruz had that 20 year old picture of Mrs. Trump posing almost nude made public and it was after that, that Trump wrote about Cruz’s wife, although he didn’t really say anything bad about her. Trump was defending his wife, but people seem to see it the other way.

Also if one was to really look hard (it was only one story from the past as the rest was about it was a lie by the National Enquirer) on the web, you will see that Mrs. Cruz did see an attorney about separation from Cruz for infidelity.

Nothing more was mentioned about this as the Republican establishment and the media hate Trump so much that the is the only candidate they focus on in every negative way they can.

How does anyone know what kind of president Trump will be? It seems that almost everyone bought Obama’s words, even it appears many on CAF. This is why the U.S. is in such trouble, because we have allowed politicians year after year to win because they look presidential or speak presidential or have always voted for Republicans or Democrats. I will give Trump the benefit of doubt until he proves otherwise if he wins and yes he does have a personality that turn many off, but I also have friends who are similar in speech, but would do anything for me if I was in need.

Although Catholic, reading many of these posts I feel ashamed of how many non Catholic readers might get a bad impression of the Church.

My feelings about why Trump does and says some of the inappropriate things, might turn out wrong, but at least I have tried not to judge him before he proves his innocence. I also don’t believe politicians just because they are told what to say, how to say it and wear the suit. We the people should be the CEO of America, not those in Washington. I recall the last election when Republicans won so many seats in Congress and promised to overturn Obama Care and stop the spending etc. Well their well spoken words and nice suits meant nothing, they lied as far as I am concerned.

Please don’t respond expecting my response, I just felt the need to express how we appear to others and that we appear so judgmental.

God Bless

Bernadette

 

[chero23]

I’m not sure which elections you all are referring to, but the 111th Congress (Obama’s first 2 years in office) was Democrat controlled.

Just sayin’
tee

Had to look for your post and clear something off.

Obama won the White House in 2008.

the 2009 (111th) House and Senate was majority Democrat.

Obama won in 2012.

the 2013 (113) House (rep) and Senate (democrat)

Bush won the WH in 2000.

In 2004 the Republicans won the House and Senate. So he had the WH, senate and HOR.

Clinton won in 1992.

In 1994 the republicans swept the midterms elections. That made Newt the Speaker of the House.

It happens often.

 

[chero23]

Sometimes I have to laugh at several of the posters posts. It must be nice to speculate about everything that Trump does and thinks. He has been honest enough to say he punches back when someone punches first. That is just part of his character and I think most of us would do the same thing if we had the ability, even as a Christian.

It appears that most here don’t really watch all the times Trump speaks, but read the media or watch the media to make their judgments. If one was to really do research there seems to be reasons for Trump’s fault of punching back. I can’t recall everything that he has done this to. I do remember that Ms Martinez made some pretty bad remarks about him before he said that New Mexico needed better representative as governor. Also during the debates if another candidate made a remark that Trump felt was wrong about him, he has the ability to punch harder.

Also why is it that everyone seems to jump on the band wagon against Trump and don’t actually research some of why he does what he does.

First no one has said anything about Cruz being a racist. If people were listening to one of the first debates, after Trump said he would send 11 million illegals back, but let them come back legally, if they were not criminals, Cruz said he would send them all back and they would never be allowed back into the U.S. Which man is more racist?

I believe that the candidates are fully responsible and know what their people are putting out there about the other candidates. I believe that Cruz had that 20 year old picture of Mrs. Trump posing almost nude made public and it was after that, that Trump wrote about Cruz’s wife, although he didn’t really say anything bad about her. Trump was defending his wife, but people seem to see it the other way.

Also if one was to really look hard (it was only one story from the past as the rest was about it was a lie by the National Enquirer) on the web, you will see that Mrs. Cruz did see an attorney about separation from Cruz for infidelity.

Nothing more was mentioned about this as the Republican establishment and the media hate Trump so much that the is the only candidate they focus on in every negative way they can.

How does anyone know what kind of president Trump will be? It seems that almost everyone bought Obama’s words, even it appears many on CAF. This is why the U.S. is in such trouble, because we have allowed politicians year after year to win because they look presidential or speak presidential or have always voted for Republicans or Democrats. I will give Trump the benefit of doubt until he proves otherwise if he wins and yes he does have a personality that turn many off, but I also have friends who are similar in speech, but would do anything for me if I was in need.

Although Catholic, reading many of these posts I feel ashamed of how many non Catholic readers might get a bad impression of the Church.

My feelings about why Trump does and says some of the inappropriate things, might turn out wrong, but at least I have tried not to judge him before he proves his innocence. I also don’t believe politicians just because they are told what to say, how to say it and wear the suit. We the people should be the CEO of America, not those in Washington. I recall the last election when Republicans won so many seats in Congress and promised to overturn Obama Care and stop the spending etc. Well their well spoken words and nice suits meant nothing, they lied as far as I am concerned.

Please don’t respond expecting my response, I just felt the need to express how we appear to others and that we appear so judgmental.

God Bless

Bernadette

But people here on CAF told me once, that if I defended myself from someone, I wouldn’t have the same mentality as MLK or Gandhi. But your saying like them, it is ok for Trump to say that?

Wow, double standards at its finest.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Wow, double standards at its finest.

You shouldn’t call people racists its not nice, I realize race and identity politics seems to be the answer to all things for liberals, and is of utter most importance but its uncalled for here, and certainly from a conservative and christian perspective.

The problem started with Obama and admittedly with his divisiveness. I guess its hard to accept for some he’s not the arbiter of what “IS” racism nor the PC conversation as we see.

It was a major flaw in his thinking and also with Christianity and his party policy too.

 

[chero23]

The problem started with Obama and admittedly with his divisiveness. I guess its hard to accept for some he’s not the arbiter of what “IS” racism nor the PC conversation as we see.

It was a major flaw in his thinking and also with Christianity and his party policy too.

There is racism going on. Look at your boy Trump, calling the judge “A Mexican”. What does that have to do with anything. Unless he was starting to instigate and have his followers support him into this being a white vs color issue.

Police are very racial oriented. I have said this before, but if police see 4 minorities in a car compared to 4 whites, in the same type of vehicle, the minority car will get pulled over 75-80% of the time. Is that racist? I do believe so.

 

[chero23]

The problem started with Obama and admittedly with his divisiveness. I guess its hard to accept for some he’s not the arbiter of what “IS” racism nor the PC conversation as we see.

It was a major flaw in his thinking and also with Christianity and his party policy too.

The problem started before Obama

 

[CHRISTINE77]

Sometimes I have to laugh at several of the posters posts. It must be nice to speculate about everything that Trump does and thinks. He has been honest enough to say he punches back when someone punches first. That is just part of his character and I think most of us would do the same thing if we had the ability, even as a Christian.

It appears that most here don’t really watch all the times Trump speaks, but read the media or watch the media to make their judgments. If one was to really do research there seems to be reasons for Trump’s fault of punching back. I can’t recall everything that he has done this to. I do remember that Ms Martinez made some pretty bad remarks about him before he said that New Mexico needed better representative as governor. Also during the debates if another candidate made a remark that Trump felt was wrong about him, he has the ability to punch harder.

Also why is it that everyone seems to jump on the band wagon against Trump and don’t actually research some of why he does what he does.

First no one has said anything about Cruz being a racist. If people were listening to one of the first debates, after Trump said he would send 11 million illegals back, but let them come back legally, if they were not criminals, Cruz said he would send them all back and they would never be allowed back into the U.S. Which man is more racist?

I believe that the candidates are fully responsible and know what their people are putting out there about the other candidates. I believe that Cruz had that 20 year old picture of Mrs. Trump posing almost nude made public and it was after that, that Trump wrote about Cruz’s wife, although he didn’t really say anything bad about her. Trump was defending his wife, but people seem to see it the other way.

Also if one was to really look hard (it was only one story from the past as the rest was about it was a lie by the National Enquirer) on the web, you will see that Mrs. Cruz did see an attorney about separation from Cruz for infidelity.

Nothing more was mentioned about this as the Republican establishment and the media hate Trump so much that the is the only candidate they focus on in every negative way they can.

How does anyone know what kind of president Trump will be? It seems that almost everyone bought Obama’s words, even it appears many on CAF. This is why the U.S. is in such trouble, because we have allowed politicians year after year to win because they look presidential or speak presidential or have always voted for Republicans or Democrats. I will give Trump the benefit of doubt until he proves otherwise if he wins and yes he does have a personality that turn many off, but I also have friends who are similar in speech, but would do anything for me if I was in need.

Although Catholic, reading many of these posts I feel ashamed of how many non Catholic readers might get a bad impression of the Church.

My feelings about why Trump does and says some of the inappropriate things, might turn out wrong, but at least I have tried not to judge him before he proves his innocence. I also don’t believe politicians just because they are told what to say, how to say it and wear the suit. We the people should be the CEO of America, not those in Washington. I recall the last election when Republicans won so many seats in Congress and promised to overturn Obama Care and stop the spending etc. Well their well spoken words and nice suits meant nothing, they lied as far as I am concerned.

Please don’t respond expecting my response, I just felt the need to express how we appear to others and that we appear so judgmental.

God Bless

Bernadette

Great post - you are right in my opinion.

 

[GaryTaylor]

The problem started before Obama

Obama IS the problem and the very reason all this is going on. Long list for 8-years of all the divisive talk and racist comments.

 

[Stylteralmaldo]

Had to look for your post and clear something off.

Obama won the White House in 2008.

the 2009 (111th) House and Senate was majority Democrat.

Obama won in 2012.

the 2013 (113) House (rep) and Senate (democrat)

Bush won the WH in 2000.

In 2004 the Republicans won the House and Senate. So he had the WH, senate and HOR.

Clinton won in 1992.

In 1994 the republicans swept the midterms elections. That made Newt the Speaker of the House.

It happens often.

Unlike presidents that enjoy majorities in both houses when in office, Obama had a ‘super-majority’ in the Senate in 2008. This allowed a filibuster-proof situation that very few presidents have enjoyed in the country’s history.

 

[Sy_Noe]

There is racism going on. Look at your boy Trump, calling the judge “A Mexican”. What does that have to do with anything. Unless he was starting to instigate and have his followers support him into this being a white vs color issue.

Police are very racial oriented. I have said this before, but if police see 4 minorities in a car compared to 4 whites, in the same type of vehicle, the minority car will get pulled over 75-80% of the time. Is that racist? I do believe so.

Chero, so you don’t think if the judge was white that DT would have pointed that out to his white supporters?

 

[chero23]

Obama IS the problem and the very reason all this is going on. Long list for 8-years of all the divisive talk and racist comments.

Maybe if you leave Connecticut and come to the South you might see things are not as a clear as you think it is. Don’t go by any news source, come and see for yourself. See the divisiveness police does with people.

 

[chero23]

Chero, so you don’t think if the judge was white that DT would have pointed that out to his white supporters?

Umm he did go after the Hispanic Governor of New Mexico.

Sunday he said that illegals were being treated than Vets. Why did he have to put both in the same boat?

You say the words illegals, and as a Hispanic, and it coming from Trump you know what he is talking about,

 

[TMC]

Obama IS the problem and the very reason all this is going on. Long list for 8-years of all the divisive talk and racist comments.

Yes, Obama invented racism. Before 2008 there was no racism in this country at all.

 

[GaryTaylor]

We know the Democrats love calling people names and usually make no sense on the topic but to show their own double standard. Trump might still have some stink on him from the Demo party

washingtonexaminer.com/racist-anti-semitic-comments-by-9-democrats-who-went-unpunished/article/2548693

pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2015/6/25/90-of-the-racism-in-america-comes-from-the-democratic-party-and-the-left/

Ninety percent of the racism in America today comes from the Democratic Party and the Left. They live off it and exploit it. It is unconscionable to the degree they do this, ruining the lives and futures of the very people they say they are helping in the process.

I am uniquely positioned to say this because I spent most of my life on the Left and was a civil rights worker in the South in my early twenties. I was also, to my everlasting regret, a donor to the Black Panther Party in the seventies.

So I have seen this personally from both sides and my conclusion is inescapable. The Left is far, far worse. They are obsessed with race in a manner that does not allow them to see straight. Further, they project racism onto others continually, exacerbating situations, which in most instances weren’t even there in the first place. From Al Sharpton to Hillary Clinton, they all do it.

Barack Obama is one of the worst offenders in this regard. Recently, in reaction to the horrid actions of the deranged, but solitary racist Dylann Root, the president claimed racism is in our DNA.

How could he possibly utter such nonsense and who was he talking about? The majority of Americans are from families that came to this country after slavery existed. Many of those were escaping oppression of their own. In my case my family was fleeing the pogroms of Eastern Europe. Many of the members of my family who stayed behind ended up gassed in Auschwitz or exterminated in Treblinka.

Is Obama telling me that racism is in my DNA? What a wretched and insulting statement. If he means that, he should tell it to me face-to-face.

If he does, I will tell him what I think. The racial situation in this country has gotten decidedly worse since he took office. And he is a great deal to blame. Ever since the beer summit it was obvious he was disingenuous and harmful on the subject of race, seeking to stir the pot when it was actually empty or nearly. His claim that if he had had a son he would look like Travyon Martin was ridiculous and self-serving in the extreme. Barack Obama is a product of the fanciest private school in Hawaii and his children go to Sidwell Friends, the fanciest school in D. C. He takes vacations on Oahu and his wife parties in Switzerland. He had as much in common with Trayvon as I do with the queen of Spain.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Yes, Obama invented racism. Before 2008 there was no racism in this country at all.

Oh no did I lead you you believe it was OTHER than HIS party the Democrats. He’s just the most confused and most recent leader.

russp.us/racism.htm

From a purely cynical political perspective, the Democratic strategy of black dependence has been extremely effective. LBJ knew exactly what he was doing. African Americans routinely vote well over 90 percent Democratic for fear that Republicans will cut their government benefits and welfare programs. And what is the result? Before LBJ’s Great Society welfare programs, the black illegitimacy rate was as low as 23 percent, but now it has more than tripled to 72 percent.

Most major American city governments have been run by liberal Democrats for decades, and most of those cities have large black sections that are essentially dysfunctional anarchies. Cities like Detroit are overrun by gangs and drug dealers, with burned out homes on every block in some areas. The land values are so low due to crime, blight, and lack of economic opportunity that condemned homes are not even worth rebuilding. Who wants to build a home in an urban war zone? Yet they keep electing liberal Democrats – and blaming “racist” Republicans for their problems!

Washington DC is another city that has been dominated by liberal Democrats for decades. It spends more per capita on students than almost any other city in the world, yet it has some of the worst academic achievement anywhere and is a drug-infested hellhole. Barack Obama would not dream of sending his own precious daughters to the DC public schools, of course – but he assures us that those schools are good enough for everyone else. In fact, Obama was instrumental in killing a popular and effective school voucher program in DC, effectively killing hopes for many poor black families trapped in those dysfunctional public schools. His allegiance to the teachers unions apparently trumps his concern for poor black families.

A strong argument could also be made that Democratic support for perpetual affirmative action is racist. It is, after all, the antithesis of Martin Luther King’s dream of a color-blind society. Not only is it “reverse racism,” but it is based on the premise that African Americans are incapable of competing in the free market on a level playing field. In other words, it is based on the notion of white supremacy, albeit “benevolent” white supremacy rather than the openly hostile white supremacy of the pre-1960s Democratic Party.

The next time someone claims that Republicans are racist and Democrats are not, don’t fall for it.

 

[Crossbones]

Maybe he was, he certainly has the right to voice his opinion in america like Obama

Maybe Obamas feelings have merit too.

I can’t see how one thing is like the other.