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Sy_Noe said:
That must be how George W Bush served 2 terms.
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It is interesting how “the Clinton / Democratic Establishment + Mainstream Media Machine” is the one that “runs the country” but both the House and the Senate are controlled by Republicans. I guess that these Republicans are no match for the dreaded Clinton machine. :rolleyes:
 
Crossbones said:
Probably, but her surrogates are going to Trump University was a fraud over and over again, so it’s not clear he’ll gain an advantage in doing this.
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Hey ummm Mr Grammar and punctuation. Whats up? Lets have a on-line grammar check, what does this really mean…
but her surrogates are going to Trump University was a fraud over and over again
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Thorolfr said:
In what way was Trump’s mocking of a disabled person alleged? According to Merriam-Webster, the definition of “alleged” is “said to have happened but not yet proven.” But since Trump mocked the disabled reporter in front of thousands of people and it was recorded on tape, I’m not sure how this can be considered to merely be alleged.
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It’s alleged I guess because Trump denies that he did mock a disabled reporter:

bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34940861

Some people say he did, he says he didn’t. Is he telling the truth? People will make that judgement call. But it’s not 100% confirmed that he did because he denies he mocked that man, so is it not alleged?
 
GaryTaylor said:
Hey ummm Mr Grammar and punctuation. Whats up? Lets have a on-line grammar check, what does this really mean…

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Good catch.

Probably, but her surrogates are going to** bring up that **Trump University was a fraud over and over again, so it’s not clear he’ll gain an advantage in doing this.
 
From today’s Guardian:
Tracey Iglehart, a teacher at Rosa Parks elementary school in Berkeley, California, did not expect Donald Trump to show up on the playground.
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This was, after all, a school named after a civil rights hero in a progressive California enclave, with a melting pot of white, African American, Latino and Muslim students.
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That has not stopped some children from channeling and adopting the Republican presumptive nominee’s xenophobic rhetoric in playground spats and classroom exchanges.
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“They said things like ‘you’ll get deported’, ‘you weren’t born here’ and ‘you were born in a Taco Bell’,” said Iglehart, 49. “They may not know exactly what it means, but they know it’s powerful language.”
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theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/09/california-primary-trump-rhetoric-school-bully
 
Thorolfr said:
From today’s Guardian:

Tracey Iglehart, a teacher at Rosa Parks elementary school in Berkeley, California, did not expect Donald Trump to show up on the playground.

This was, after all, a school named after a civil rights hero in a progressive California enclave, with a melting pot of white, African American, Latino and Muslim students.

That has not stopped some children from channeling and adopting the Republican presumptive nominee’s xenophobic rhetoric in playground spats and classroom exchanges.

“They said things like ‘you’ll get deported’, ‘you weren’t born here’ and ‘you were born in a Taco Bell’,” said Iglehart, 49. “They may not know exactly what it means, but they know it’s powerful language.”

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/09/california-primary-trump-rhetoric-school-bully
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Wonder if that’s anything like the woman who was egged at the Trump rally or the young man who was chased down, thrown to the ground and kicked repeatedly by a gang of anti-Trump thugs.

Also, unless these kids watch a lot of news, which is extremely doubtful, they got these things somewhere other than from Trump. In any event, Trump doesn’t say those things.

Any kind of anecdotal, hearsay tale, is rightfully doubted anyway.
 
Get a load of Arizona Senator Jeff Flake—yes, this Jeff Flake—on Trump:
Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona says there is “some mixture of fear and loathing” of Donald Trump among his Senate colleagues.
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Flake, who has said he will not vote for his party’s presumptive nominee, criticized Trump for appealing to what he called white “identity politics.”
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Trump is so toxic he’s got Flake sounding like an intersectional feminist.

Flake also noted “there’s not a lot of enthusiasm” for Trump in the Senate Republican caucus. And he added: “To have somebody from the party of Lincoln play with the identity politics that he’s been playing with, basically saying that if you are descendant of Mexican heritage that you’re disqualified to sit in judgment with someone who might disagree with your positions. It’s just wrong. It’s just wrong.”

Now, to be perfectly clear: It’s not that the Republican Party objects to racism, misogyny, and sundry other bigotries. Upholding privilege is the centerpiece of their platform. This isn’t newfound decency, but familiar opportunism.

Still, this is how egregious Trump’s bigotry is. After decades of running on a platform that trades on fearmongering, scapegoating, and dogwhistling, Trump has gone so far beyond their already highly objectionable bigotry that many of them wouldn’t take a selfie with him for ten wishes from the bootstraps fairy.
 
Siegehammer said:
Get a load of Arizona Senator Jeff Flake—yes, this Jeff Flake—on Trump:

Trump is so toxic he’s got Flake sounding like an intersectional feminist.

Flake also noted “there’s not a lot of enthusiasm” for Trump in the Senate Republican caucus. And he added: “To have somebody from the party of Lincoln play with the identity politics that he’s been playing with, basically saying that if you are descendant of Mexican heritage that you’re disqualified to sit in judgment with someone who might disagree with your positions. It’s just wrong. It’s just wrong.”

Now, to be perfectly clear: It’s not that the Republican Party objects to racism, misogyny, and sundry other bigotries. Upholding privilege is the centerpiece of their platform. This isn’t newfound decency, but familiar opportunism.

Still, this is how egregious Trump’s bigotry is. After decades of running on a platform that trades on fearmongering, scapegoating, and dogwhistling, Trump has gone so far beyond their already highly objectionable bigotry that many of them wouldn’t take a selfie with him for ten wishes from the bootstraps fairy.
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Or maybe he’s genuinely repulsed but you can’t see it because you’re blinded by partisan hatred?
 
Siegehammer said:
Get a load of Arizona Senator Jeff Flake—yes, this Jeff Flake—on Trump:

Trump is so toxic he’s got Flake sounding like an intersectional feminist.

Flake also noted “there’s not a lot of enthusiasm” for Trump in the Senate Republican caucus. And he added: “To have somebody from the party of Lincoln play with the identity politics that he’s been playing with, basically saying that if you are descendant of Mexican heritage that you’re disqualified to sit in judgment with someone who might disagree with your positions. It’s just wrong. It’s just wrong.”

Now, to be perfectly clear: It’s not that the Republican Party objects to racism, misogyny, and sundry other bigotries. Upholding privilege is the centerpiece of their platform. This isn’t newfound decency, but familiar opportunism.

Still, this is how egregious Trump’s bigotry is. After decades of running on a platform that trades on fearmongering, scapegoating, and dogwhistling, Trump has gone so far beyond their already highly objectionable bigotry that many of them wouldn’t take a selfie with him for ten wishes from the bootstraps fairy.
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There are other forms of bigotry. For instance, accusing all people of a particular party of racism, misogyny and sundry other bigotries.

It’s not exactly bigotry to say a person claims a judge is disqualified just because he’s of Mexican heritage when he didn’t actually say that, and it’s not necessarily even rash judgment or deceit. It could simply be a misunderstand of the facts.
 
Ridgerunner said:
There are other forms of bigotry. For instance, accusing all people of a particular party of racism, misogyny and sundry other bigotries.

It’s not exactly bigotry to say a person claims a judge is disqualified just because he’s of Mexican heritage when he didn’t actually say that, and it’s not necessarily even rash judgment or deceit. It could simply be a misunderstand of the facts.
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Trump clearly said, the man is I believe Mexican.

He said it as clear as day, as clear as the resurrection of our Lord.

N o justification for that, if there is, then go speak to republican leaders who have called those comments unacceptable. Even Ryan called them racist.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Poll: Clinton, Trump in tight race in Penn.

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/282756-poll-clinton-trump-in-tight-race-in-pennsylvania
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Pennsylvania has always been in play since 2004, but has gone the democratic way.

This year will be no different.

Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania will go for Hillary. Your college towns like, Penn State and Temple will come in waves for HRC. I see Pennsylvania going for her.

Meanwhile, a super red state (Utah) might not go to Trump. HRC or Gary Johnson might win it.

sltrib.com/news/3974917-155/new-poll-shows-libertarian-candidate-may
 
Ridgerunner said:
Wonder if that’s anything like the woman who was egged at the Trump rally or the young man who was chased down, thrown to the ground and kicked repeatedly by a gang of anti-Trump thugs.

Also, unless these kids watch a lot of news, which is extremely doubtful, they got these things somewhere other than from Trump. In any event, Trump doesn’t say those things.

Any kind of anecdotal, hearsay tale, is rightfully doubted anyway.
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Or maybe this:

Horror movie legend proves viral beaten Trump supporter photo is a fraud
rawstory.com/2016/06/horror-movie-legend-proves-viral-beaten-trump-supporter-photo-is-a-fraud/
 
chero23 said:
Trump clearly said, the man is I believe Mexican.

He said it as clear as day, as clear as the resurrection of our Lord.

N o justification for that, if there is, then go speak to republican leaders who have called those comments unacceptable. Even Ryan called them racist.
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I don’t care what Ryan said when the firestorm of racism accusations erupted. I heard it myself, as I am sure you have. Trump immediately followed that statement, in the same sentence, actually, “…which is fine”. He said nothing derogatory about the judge’s ethnicity, only that he believed the judge was biased against him.

As he sometimes is, Trump did not articulate what the real problems with the judge’s remaining in the case are. But there are problems with his remaining in the case.
 
Good_Tidings said:
Or maybe this:

Horror movie legend proves viral beaten Trump supporter photo is a fraud
rawstory.com/2016/06/horror-movie-legend-proves-viral-beaten-trump-supporter-photo-is-a-fraud/
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My goodness, you mean somebody put a bogus photo from an alleged Trump supporter on the social media in order to allow some Clinton supporter to say it’s bogus?

The real film is bad enough. Nobody needed to do this except as a false flag trick. But you do have to admit the Clinton machine will resort to anything.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I don’t care what Ryan said when the firestorm of racism accusations erupted. I heard it myself, as I am sure you have. Trump immediately followed that statement, in the same sentence, actually, “…which is fine”. He said nothing derogatory about the judge’s ethnicity, only that he believed the judge was biased against him.

As he sometimes is, Trump did not articulate what the real problems with the judge’s remaining in the case are. But there are problems with his remaining in the case.
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It’s funny how Trump always meant something different than what he said.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I don’t care what Ryan said when the firestorm of racism accusations erupted. I heard it myself, as I am sure you have. Trump immediately followed that statement, in the same sentence, actually, “…which is fine”. He said nothing derogatory about the judge’s ethnicity, only that he believed the judge was biased against him.

As he sometimes is, Trump did not articulate what the real problems with the judge’s remaining in the case are. But there are problems with his remaining in the case.
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I think that is called “damning with faint praise”.

Why bring up the issue of heritage if it is unimportant? Why not bring up the fact that the judge looks like he could be related to Justice Alito (which, in my opinion, he does)? Or that the moon is made up of cheese? Mr Trump wanted people thinking about this, relating the two facts whenever they think of the case, that is why he brought it up.
 
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