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Darryl1958 said:
The questions asked indicate a encyclopedic understanding of the subject at hand. Each of the question was made in the context of a large volume of information directing the question in the first place…

Your dismissal of the questions comes off as a little bit embarrassing.

Bazinga.
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What you see as an encyclopedic understanding of the subject at hand seems to me to be a recitation of right wing radio talking points. Of course, you think if these questions raised were particularly relevant, the Republican Congressmen questioning Hillary Clinton on the issue for 11 hours would have gotten some answers. The reason this still peculates even though the Republican subcommittee failed to find any line of questioning that implicated Clinton in wrongdoing is that the appearance of a scandal is more valuable to them than determining the truth of what happened.
 
One of Trump’s supporters from an article in the Washington Post:

“I used to watch a lot of ‘Celebrity Apprentice. I can’t wait to see who he fires first in the White House.”

Maybe this guy watches too much TV.
 
Crossbones said:
What you see as an encyclopedic understanding of the subject at hand seems to me to be a recitation of right wing radio talking points. Of course, you think if these questions raised were particularly relevant, the Republican Congressmen questioning Hillary Clinton on the issue for 11 hours would have gotten some answers. The reason this still peculates even though the Republican subcommittee failed to find any line of questioning that implicated Clinton in wrongdoing is that the appearance of a scandal is more valuable to them than determining the truth of what happened.
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That is the way you would see it.
Americans tend to see everything through their own particular partisan lens, don’t they?

The fact is that it was ridiculous to tell Ridgerunner to do his own research, rather than to actually answer the questions.

That kind of answer was indeed laughable, and anyone who would not feel embarrassed about giving an answer like that completely lacks any sense of shame.

By the way, it should be noted that the eleven hours line is also a talking point, and in no way is a real answer to any of the questions that were asked.
You might think that all Americans might actually want to know what the heck was going on, what exactly Hillary has been hiding with her e-mail fiasco.
The total lack of curiosity by Democrats, or anti-Republicans, is quite astonishing, and reveals the depths that partisanship now defines the reality of Americans.
 
Darryl1958 said:
That is the way you would see it.
Americans tend to see everything through their own particular partisan lens, don’t they?
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Well, I don’t think you need to be partisan to see that the Republicans have failed to build a compelling case here that there was wrongdoing on the part of Hillary Clinton.
The fact is that it was ridiculous to tell Ridgerunner to do his own research, rather than to actually answer the questions.
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That kind of answer was indeed laughable, and anyone who would not feel embarrassed about giving an answer like that completely lacks any sense of shame.
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I tend to agree. A better response would be to say how come the Republicans who have held more than 10 hearings and questioned Clinton under oath failed to build a compelling case.
By the way, it should be noted that the eleven hours line is also a talking point, and in no way is a real answer to any of the questions that were asked.
You might think that all Americans might actually want to know what the heck was going on, what exactly Hillary has been hiding with her e-mail fiasco.
The total lack of curiosity by Democrats, or anti-Republicans, is quite astonishing, and reveals the depths that partisanship now defines the reality of Americans.
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I think most Americans have concluded that there is not much there on Benghazi as many Congressional investigations have failed to find wrongdoing. It begins to smack of a witch hunt, which I think most Democrats have concluded the whole email scandal is. So, it isn’t a lack of curiosity on the part of Democrats, but rather a belief that the Republicans attack without merit and basically are not to be taken seriously on such matters. The boy that cries wolf, if you will.
 
I think that you do have to be partisan to avoid answering questions that were being posed.
People really ought to be embarrassed brushing off the questions like that.

The questions have merit, especially if left unanswered and the politician is about to assume the highest office in the land.

Concluding that all relevant answers are there without having a clue what the answers to this questions might be demonstrates a total lack of curiosity that not surprisingly has a partisan flavour to it.
 
Darryl1958 said:
I think that you do have to be partisan to avoid answering questions that were being posed.
People really ought to be embarrassed brushing off the questions like that.
The questions have merit.
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I guess that compelling argument is why the Republicans failed to hold her feet to the fire and let her school them for 11 hours to the point that Fox News broke away from the coverage.
 
Crossbones said:
I guess that compelling argument is why the Republicans failed to hold her feet to the fire and let her school them for 11 hours to the point that Fox News broke away from the coverage.
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I get it. You don’t like Republicans and you don’t like Fox.
The reason that Trump is where he is is because many people who voted for these Republicans didn’t like how they performed either.

But the questions still remain, and they have nothing to do with why Republicans in congress were such bumblers and underacheivers.

The questions are being asked now by just ordinary average citizens, and they are being brushed off with a total, and partisan lack of interest or curiosity.
 
Little_Sheep said:
The leadership of Trump’s “own” Party loathe him. Whether they admit it or not (and plenty admit it), they’d much rather see Hillary become President and then scramble to regroup in four years.

Trump’s not going to happen. The media will continue to call it close up until the minute voters elect Clinton to be our next POTUS by a deeply comfortable (possibly humiliating) margin. MOO, of course.
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You’re absolutely right.

For the most part Mr. Trump has gotten a free ride from the media until very recently. The media abdicated their responsibility during the GOP primary. Just like a reality TV show, Mr. Trump said a bunch of outrageous things, and the media provided him with fawning coverage, because their ratings were high and as a result their advertising revenue was high as well. The media has started to take their job/responsibility seriously, and we’ve seen Mr. Trump start to wilt.
 
GaryTaylor said:
Mitts being irresponsible and small again calling people names on twitter. Trump said he’s the most least racist person that you’ve ever encountered and its a bad wire out on him, and Don King said so.🙂

washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-i-am-the-least-racist-person/2016/06/10/eac7874c-2f3a-11e6-9de3-6e6e7a14000c_story.html
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I stated this on Friday. I haven’t said Trump is a racist, but man he sure does tow the line. We had Ryan earlier this week state that Trump’s comments were racists.

politico.com/story/2016/06/paul-ryan-trump-judge-223991

We also had the minority leader, Mitch McConnell tell Trump to tone himself down

Trump, went after Sen. Warren again and called her “Pocahontas”. A republican senator from Colorado was stuck with a reporter in an elevator, and he had a tough time trying to explain Trump’s language.

msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98pocahontas%e2%80%99-attack-leaves-fellow-republicans-squirming-again/ar-AAgUdEv?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U218DHP

I know people might say, “well x,y,z have said Trump is not racist”. That could be in their eyes. But when you have people throughout the country who are upset at trump’s comments. Some even calling them racist, we cannot go up in arms or deflect it off to the democrats.
 
GaryTaylor said:
This doesn’t sound american it sounds tribal or something. Its “we the people”, I’m not even sure that conversation is acceptable, we have to have the PC police check on it. I think your getting militant, you might be becoming radicalized on line. 😃
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Really? But at least I don’t have the CAF moderators backing me while, your out attacking people and being direct, while we get infractions. So much for PC.
 
Darryl1958 said:
I get it. You don’t like Republicans and you don’t like Fox.
The reason that Trump is where he is is because many people who voted for these Republicans didn’t like how they performed either.
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Well, I certainly do not like Fox because I think their approach to ‘news’ has done great damage to the Republican party by convincing the Republican electorate to react to soundbites instead of substance. Personally, I think they are responsible for the rise of Trump. For Republicans, I don’t have a problem with many, but they have exhibited a willingness to scandal-monger when little is there. Which has to do with…
But the questions still remain, and they have nothing to do with why Republicans in congress were such bumblers and underacheivers.
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Actually these are directly related since, if you believe that the Republicans are not honest brokers, you don’t take the questions too seriously. And when the supposed perpetrator of the scandal comes out of an 11-hour hearing looking quite Presidential, you’re inclined to believe she’s on the up and up and the Republicans have nothing on her.
The questions are being asked now by just ordinary average citizens, and they are being brushed off with a total, and partisan lack of interest or curiosity.
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Are they really being asked by ordinary average citizens of is that wishful thinking? Because I don’t see these questions being asked by anyone that doesn’t already really dislike Clinton.
 
Peter_J said:
Well, I try not to spent too much time watching the news, but I’ve certainly seen Priebus and Gingrich going to bat for Trump. But idk who counts as a surrogate.
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Gingrich could be an effective one, but even he is turned off by Trump’s racist comments.
 
Good_Tidings said:
If the judge is so unfair and “racistf” the Trump lawyers have recourse which they do not want to take for a very good reason.
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Actually they don’t have very meaningful recourse. In most states, you get one judicial disqualification for no reason at all. Any others, you have to show cause. You can’t disqualify a federal judge peremptorily. You can do it only for cause, and it’s extremely difficult to do in the federal system. And you “show your cause” to the judge himself. If he rules against you, then your only recourse is to a multi-state Circuit Court of Appeals, and it’s exceedingly hard to do. Meanwhile, you have insulted the judge who will hear the case if the Circuit Court doesn’t kick him off of it.
 
GaryTaylor said:
Mitts being irresponsible and small again calling people names on twitter. Trump said he’s the most least racist person that you’ve ever encountered and its a bad wire out on him, and Don King said so.🙂

washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-i-am-the-least-racist-person/2016/06/10/eac7874c-2f3a-11e6-9de3-6e6e7a14000c_story.html
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Romney could have faded away honorably and become a “gray eminence” on talk shows, but I guess sometimes people just insist on sullying themselves on the way out.
 
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