Donald Trump Presidential Campaign Thread

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tomarin said:
From some of the stories I’ve heard (such as he hires a person to go through all the newspapers of the world each day and clip any articles in which his name pops up) it wouldn’t surprise me if he were diagnosed with something. Also note that in his speeches he cannot go for very long before the subject comes back to him: his wealth, his fame, his accomplishments. His favorite topic is himself. I don’t think that’s normal. In fact if that’s not textbook narcissism, what is?
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And can you imagine four years of that if he were president? I’m starting to wonder how I’m going to make it until November with Trump constantly in the news.
 
GaryTaylor said:
I agree as I was saying a week or so ago its a Democrat play borrowed by Trump in reverse identity politics. I get his point and its the same trife and petty thinking we see with Obama and his white justice comment, “but” he’s white? :rolleyes: Its bias and prejudice bordering suggested racism and walks the fence of divisive language by intention. Its the basic freedom for me but not for thee we see with the left as with the college protests and rioting and do as I say not as I do theory. Basic ignorance that won’t live here. Its terrible to watch with Trump as I would think most of us feel the same with Obama and have right along. Probably a well needed conversation that we probably can expect to be on-going. The same issue imho has been on-going with affirmative action and is indicative of the problem.

debate.org/opinions/is-affirmative-action-racism

In my mind while the path above may have been considered a proper path in the past tome its racist and the same thinking exists now and has outlived its usefulness.
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My main contention against Trump is that he is sooooo much like Democrats in these matters. He is their mirror image in matters of race.
The very possibility of a person like Trump reaching the nomination for the GOP fully demonstrates how the promise that Obama brought into American politics of bringing the country together has been a complete and utter failure, a total fiasco.
Not since the defeat of George Wallace has Trumps brand of politics been relevant in American politics, and Trump has risen by becoming a caricature of Obama himself.
 
There’s a new headline in the Washington Post:

“Trump’s top example of foreign experience: A Scottish golf course losing millions”

That’s quite a resume when it comes to foreign experience!

The Donald Trump show is turning out to be a comedy…
 
Thorolfr said:
And can you imagine four years of that if he were president? I’m starting to wonder how I’m going to make it until November with Trump constantly in the news.
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Stop watching the news? Actually I’ve gotten a little addicted to following him and the things he says. I don’t think he’s remotely electable so it’s more fascination than dread that draws me to him.
 
Thorolfr said:
Whenever American newspaper’s or news organizations report on Europe or anywhere else in the world, should our reporters always preface their remarks with, “from an American point of view”?

“From an American point of view, Saudi Arabia should let women drive and should allow freedom of the press”

“From an American point of view, North Korea should stop threatening to launch an atomic weapon”

“From an American point of view, Iran should free the American reporter that they had arrested”

etc. etc.
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Well, I would prefer if the American media just reported the news without opinion, but we both know that is never going to happen since all news is intermixed with opinion, particularly on the wretched cable news channels. Personally, I just find it odd when people show up on this site and start going on about what they think America should do when they have no skin in the game. It’s be like me going on the Brexit site and telling Brits they are stupid to stay in the EU. It’s their country, they can do what they want.
 
Crossbones said:
Well, I would prefer if the American media just reported the news without opinion, but we both know that is never going to happen since all news is intermixed with opinion, particularly on the wretched cable news channels. Personally, I just find it odd when people show up on this site and start going on about what they think America should do when they have no skin in the game. It’s be like me going on the Brexit site and telling Brits they are stupid to stay in the EU. It’s their country, they can do what they want.
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When Ireland was voting on whether to allow same-sex marriage, lots of people here in CAF who are not Irish were voicing their opinion on how the Irish should vote (most, of course, were against them voting to allow same-sex marriage). Should they all have just remained silent and said, “This is for the Irish to decide and it’s not appropriate for us to voice an opinion”?
 
Thorolfr said:
When Ireland was voting on whether to allow same-sex marriage, lots of people here in CAF who are not Irish were voicing their opinion on how the Irish should vote (most, of course, were against them voting to allow same-sex marriage). Should they all have just remained silent and said, “This is for the Irish to decide and it’s not appropriate for us to voice an opinion”?
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In my opinion, yes.
 
Thorolfr said:
When Ireland was voting on whether to allow same-sex marriage, lots of people here in CAF who are not Irish were voicing their opinion on how the Irish should vote (most, of course, were against them voting to allow same-sex marriage). Should they all have just remained silent and said, “This is for the Irish to decide and it’s not appropriate for us to voice an opinion”?
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Don’t forget, many Americans of Irish descent do consider themselves Irish, much to the bemusement of actual Irish people born in Ireland. It’s a good question, though.
 
tomarin said:
Don’t forget, many Americans of Irish descent do consider themselves Irish, much to the bemusement of actual Irish people born in Ireland. It’s a good question, though.
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I’m about 1/32 Irish descent. Does that still make me Irish? 😉
 
tomarin said:
Stop watching the news? Actually I’ve gotten a little addicted to following him and the things he says. I don’t think he’s remotely electable so it’s more fascination than dread that draws me to him.
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Try to think of him differently and recognize that your fascination may be due to something that makes you uncomfortable. If it is rudeness or vanity that you suspicion is your turnoff, imagine that he is not intending to be rude or vain in a harmful way and his personality is not really any harm to you. Perhaps you could offer advice on his presentation. His stated goals are certainly good for America and it is a positive that Hillary Clinton is totally unsuitable. You may find you feel more comfortable toward America’s fight against the enemies within.
 
Thorolfr said:
There’s a new headline in the Washington Post:

“Trump’s top example of foreign experience: A Scottish golf course losing millions”

That’s quite a resume when it comes to foreign experience!

The Donald Trump show is turning out to be a comedy…
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Compared to the tragedy that was Hillary’s time as SOS…
 
Thorolfr said:
There’s a new headline in the Washington Post:

“Trump’s top example of foreign experience: A Scottish golf course losing millions”

That’s quite a resume when it comes to foreign experience!

The Donald Trump show is turning out to be a comedy…
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And how many ambassadors died on his golf course? How many classified documents were leaked on the driving range? Which terrorist organizations arose when the fairways were laid out?
 
Crossbones said:
Well, I would prefer if the American media just reported the news without opinion, but we both know that is never going to happen since all news is intermixed with opinion, particularly on the wretched cable news channels. Personally, I just find it odd when people show up on this site and start going on about what they think America should do when they have no skin in the game. It’s be like me going on the Brexit site and telling Brits they are stupid to stay in the EU. It’s their country, they can do what they want.
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Well - I don’t agree that non-Americans, non-British have no skin in the game when it comes to voicing an opinion about what the country under discussion should do. I think, with due respect, that it shows insularity to think that - at least when it comes to countries whose politics affect the rest of the world. This is particularly true of the US.

It matters a LOT to non-Americans who you elect. Politically, economically, commercially. The smaller the country, the more they are affected.

It matters to us down here in NZ, at least, what Britain does as regards the EU. Yes, it is their business, just as it is your business who you elect as president, but you can’t say we/they have no skin in the game.

And we are certainly entitled to an opinion.

I don’t expect, on the other hand, for other countries to tell us in NZ what we should do because it isn’t going to affect them, but if they want to voice an opinion, fine.
 
ATeNumquam said:
Well - I don’t agree that non-Americans, non-British have no skin in the game when it comes to voicing an opinion about what the country under discussion should do. I think, with due respect, that it shows insularity to think that - at least when it comes to countries whose politics affect the rest of the world. This is particularly true of the US.

It matters a LOT to non-Americans who you elect. Politically, economically, commercially. The smaller the country, the more they are affected.

It matters to us down here in NZ, at least, what Britain does as regards the EU. Yes, it is their business, just as it is your business who you elect as president, but you can’t say we/they have no skin in the game.

And we are certainly entitled to an opinion.

I don’t expect, on the other hand, for other countries to tell us in NZ what we should do because it isn’t going to affect them, but if they want to voice an opinion, fine.
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I see. So, do you feel NZ has skin in the game when the US is forming policies on how to fight ISIS? Are NZ soldiers going to go to Syria and be boots on the ground? Will you spend your money on it?

So, while you are certainly welcome to your opinion, no, you do not have much (if any) skin in the game.
 
Crossbones said:
I see. So, do you feel NZ has skin in the game when the US is forming policies on how to fight ISIS? Are NZ soldiers going to go to Syria and be boots on the ground? Will you spend your money on it?

So, while you are certainly welcome to your opinion, no, you do not have much (if any) skin in the game.
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No US soldiers are going to go to Syria and be boots on the ground. At most, the US would bomb the place. Other countries could certainly have an opinion about whether the US should be bombing Syria. It’s not our country after all and other countries around the world would have a right to approve or object to our intervening in another country. Objections might legitimately be made in the UN or the Security Council or by foreign ambassadors in Washington.
 
Donald Trump is being outspent by HRC 8:1.

This will change everything that the experts think they know about presidential campaigns if he actually is able to pull it off.
That is a pretty big if. At this point, it feels like speculating whether the sun will not actually rise one morning between here and November.
 
Darryl1958 said:
Donald Trump is being outspent by HRC 8:1.

This will change everything that the experts think they know about presidential campaigns if he actually is able to pull it off.
That is a pretty big if. At this point, it feels like speculating whether the sun will not actually rise one morning between here and November.
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She’s outspending him 8:1, and yet the gap in most polls is right around the margin of error. Looks like the businessman knows how to spend money effectively.
 
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