Donald Trump Thread

[Monte_RCMS]

The problem is that the actual news is being censored by the various media.

For example:

breitbart.com/london/2016/07/16/graphic-france-suppressed-news-gruesome-islamic-state-torture-paris/

You need to read from a variety of sources.

To make sure you get the whole story.

Breitbart is a good one.

We have friends who don’t use the internet so they are dependent on the usual WABC, WNBC, WCBS.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Schieffer: CBS News Poll Showing Tie With Trump ‘Devastating’ For Clinton

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Hillary Clinton has lost what once was a 10-point lead over Donald Trump.

The latest CBS News/New York Times poll revealed Thursday the two are tied at 40 percent heading into the Republican and Democratic National Conventions. Last month, the former secretary of state held a six-point lead, and in April she was favored 50 to 40 percent over the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.

CBS News contributor Bob Schieffer said on “CBS This Morning” the latest poll is “devastating” for Clinton.

“I think this poll is devastating for Hillary Clinton,” the former “Face the Nation” host said. “I just don’t think there is any other way to put it.”

Schieffer explained what’s hurt the Clinton campaign is Trump opening up a “big lead” among independents.

“Independents are the people who are going to decide this race. I keep hearing about Democrats worrying about ‘how do we get to the Bernie Sanders people? How does Hillary Clinton get to the left of Bernie Sanders?’ I think it’s in the middle where she’s got to work on getting people, and this poll really shows it,” Schieffer said.

The poll also revealed that 28 percent view the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee as honest, while 67 percent said she is not honest and trustworthy. For Trump, 62 percent of those polled don’t think he’s honest and two-thirds believe he is not prepared to be president.

Clinton only has a 28 percent favorable rating, compared to Trump’s 30 percent. Both candidates’ unfavorable rating is at 54 percent.

newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/07/14/schieffer-clinton-trump-poll/

How many millions did she spend for that?

 

[Monte_RCMS]

newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/07/14/schieffer-clinton-trump-poll/

How many millions did she spend for that?

Who has created the most problems for the United States so far?

Clinton

Who will do a better job as President?

Trump.

Who will do a better job cleaning up the present messes?

Trump.

If Clinton has identified all these problem areas, why don’t she and Obama fix them NOW? Why wait until after the election?

If Clinton is making all these promises, why not simply deliver on them NOW? Congress will give Obama everything he wants, so the Democrats could deliver NOW.

In fact a few years ago, the Democrats had the Executive Branch AND both houses of Congress, but they were unable to deliver at that time.

 

[GaryTaylor]

And after all her slavery, apartheid penal and social services SHE wants to further attack the Constitution -First Amendment just like with Dallas. And while she agitates violence and murder and violent protest she attacks the first amendment, then she wants to TALK about attacking your second amendment right and continue with her Free Speech attack.

The fact of the matter is we have become a nation of slaves… Now more than ever we need to come together as a nation and stand against tyranny and corruption. We need to stand against paid thugs and show them that things are done differently in America. If we don’t stand now, in Cleveland we are giving it to the third world thugs and will never get it back. We will soon be like every other cess pool of socialism or communism that these people are coming from and the things that we are so addicted to, that kept us from standing up will be gone and we will be powerless, living life the way we are told to live it. Our lives will be worthless and meaningless.

breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/12/exclusive-bikers-for-trump-to-patrol-cleveland-during-rnc-convention-vets-are-our-backbone/

angrypatriotmovement.com/bikers-for-trump-picture/

We have to have peaceful protest.

 

[estesbob]

I wasn’t around here but those were bad times in out nation’s history. Arguably the worst economic period since the Great Depression along with all the other things that went on during those yrs.

You Would’ve fit right in with the left-wing posters during those days . The only thing missing was the obligatory reference to how evil Fox News was.

 

[GaryTaylor]

They should all be going to DC “together” and insist on correcting the obvious issues self created by tragic policy.

wkyc.com/news/politics/rnc/thousands-expected-to-protest-during-republican-national-convention/238407065

According to the most recent applications filed with the City of Cleveland:

The America First Unity rally is supposed to draw 5,000 people.

The Trump March RNC is slated to have 500 people.

The Bikers for Trump claim they will have between 100 and 500,000 bikers on the streets of Cleveland to support the Republican nominee

Meanwhile, on the opposite side of the political spectrum, the Stand Together Against Trump protest plans to have at least 10,000 people in the city.

And the group called the Coalition To Stop Trump says it will have 1,000 people.

Add to the mix of political protesters, the hate group from the Westboro Baptist Church, which has filed plans to preach downtown.

There will also be demonstrations against racism, poverty, violence against women and the anti-nuclear weapons group called Global Zero.

However, it remains to be seen just how many anarchists are going to show up in Cleveland.

Groups like Black Bloc and Anonymous don’t file for city permits. Anarchists took over downtown streets last month in Seattle causing property damage and injuring police officers during the May Day protests.

Here is the complete list of groups that have filed with the City of Cleveland as of June 9:

AIDS Healthcare Foundation (1,000)

America First Unity Rally (5,000)

Andrew Purchin Projects (50)

Benediction (1)

Bikers for Trump (100-500,000)

Black on Black (25)

Bring back Ohio (?)

Cleveland Baptist Church (15)

Coalition to Stop Trump (1,000)

Code Pink (20)

Community Unity (20)

Created Equal (30)

End Corporate Rule (100)

End Poverty Now March for Economic Justice (5,000)

Food Not Bombs (110)

Gaye Lub (6)

Global Zero (200)

Imperial Women Coalition (50)

League of Women Voters (3)

Million Women March (10)

The One Campaign (400)

Organize Ohio (5,000)

Peoples Fightback Center/March Against Racism (500)

Peace In The Hood (20)

Peace In The Park (17)

Peter Nappier (3)

Revolution Books (5)

Stand Together Against Trump (10,000)

Trump March RNC (500)

Victory for the Valley (4)

Westboro Baptist Church (5)

Women for Peace (30)

washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/6/tammy-bruce-anti-trump-rallies-funded-by-the-left/

But it’s already too late. The Democrats and their allies simply don’t understand trying to beat us into submission reaffirms our determination to end this charade.

Its never too late for peace. Think twice!

 

[Monte_RCMS]

We were at a non-political social gathering the other day and politics broke out.

I provided the text of President Trump’s Inaugural Address.

First, all you Border Patrol folks: go back to work.

Second, all you veterans. Show up at any medical facility or doctor’s office, show your DD214 and get treated.

Etc.

Well, the shock was palpable. [Always wanted to use that word in a sentence.]

***NONE of the attendees was aware that our southern border was open and flowing freely. NO IDEA.

---

The wall discussion ensued and I brought up the use of tilt-up concrete slabs. More than a mile a day of construction. Etc.

Kind of interesting. We did keep it away from fisticuffs.

But it was interesting.

[They had no idea that the border was open.]

 

[queenofheartscv]

Because it was his fault! What a terrible President. Worst of my lifetime. Thanks to him and all the other Republican candidates refusing to say what is bovious that we’re going to end up with Trump. And folks we’re ending up with Trump. I’m in Cleveland working my connections but everyone is resigned that there is little to be done. My friends realize he’s going to lose but they can’t figure out a way to knock him out without destroying the party. They would rather lose to Clinton than try to stop Trump! Unbelieveable!

Hmmmm, I can’t resist pointing out the obvious: if your candidate is going to beat hillary, how come he/she couldn’t beat trump? How do you go the championship game without winning the playoff? Remember trump won fair and square.

Plus, if you keep trying to agitate people against trump, wouldn’t that minimize his chance to win against hillary? Now who is it really that would rather lose to hillary? Sounds like it’s the never-trumpers. Their hatred of trump is stronger than their dislike of hillary.

 

[Good_Tidings]

If this were football, I’d agree with you, but it’s politics and the rules can change. The party decides the rules. Now, how did trmp win? He won because all the media gave him free coverage and then didn’t cover anyone else. Then the Dems showed up and voted for him to make sure they would have the eaisest candidate to beat. That’s how!

I might care that Trump wins because I have a small hope that he migth accidently do something pro-life, but most of my friends are party insiders that believe that Trump will damage the party. They think they are better off losing in 2016 and winning in 2020 than having Trump win. They don’t care about the Supreme Coutr - trust me I’ve made that argument!

It sounds like the convention should be pretty interesting!

 

[Thorolfr]

Who will do a better job as President?

Trump.

Who will do a better job cleaning up the present messes?

Trump.

Is this really the person who would be a better president:

Lesley Stahl: But we did go to war, if you remember. We went to Iraq.

Donald Trump: Yeah, you went to Iraq, but that was handled so badly. And that was a war-- by the way, that was a war that we shouldn’t have entered because Iraq did not knock down–excuse me

Lesley Stahl: Your running mate–

Donald Trump: Iraq did not–

Lesley Stahl: --voted for it.

Donald Trump: I don’t care.

Lesley Stahl: What do you mean you don’t care that he voted for?

Donald Trump: It’s a long time ago. And he voted that way and they were also misled. A lot of information was given to people.

Lesley Stahl: But you’ve harped on this.

Donald Trump: But I was against the war in Iraq from the beginning.

Lesley Stahl: Yeah, but you’ve used that vote of Hillary’s that was the same as Governor Pence as the example of her bad judgment.

Donald Trump: Many people have, and frankly, I’m one of the few that was right on Iraq.

Lesley Stahl: Yeah, but what about he–

Donald Trump: He’s entitled to make a mistake every once in a while.

Lesley Stahl: But she’s not? OK, come on–

Donald Trump: But she’s not–

Lesley Stahl: She’s not?

Donald Trump: No. She’s not.

Lesley Stahl: Got it.

cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-trump-pence-republican-ticket/

That’s an interesting line of reasoning. It was OK for Mike Pence to vote for the Iraq War and Trump doesn’t care that he did because he’s entitled to make mistakes, but it’s not OK for Hillary to have voted in exactly the same way because she’s not entitled to make mistakes. That’s Trumpean logic in the Trumpean universe. I’m so reassured that someone who thinks like this might be our president. It seems so logical and intelligent…

 

[queenofheartscv]

If this were football, I’d agree with you, but it’s politics and the rules can change. The party decides the rules. Now, how did trmp win? He won because all the media gave him free coverage and then didn’t cover anyone else. Then the Dems showed up and voted for him to make sure they would have the eaisest candidate to beat. That’s how!

I might care that Trump wins because I have a small hope that he migth accidently do something pro-life, but most of my friends are party insiders that believe that Trump will damage the party. They think they are better off losing in 2016 and winning in 2020 than having Trump win. They don’t care about the Supreme Coutr - trust me I’ve made that argument!

This is where people need to take their stand: wih party insiders who lose precious little no matter who is in office or with the people who want DC changed by an outsider? It’s the voters who chose trump not the media. The media is available to all the candidates. How they were able to avail of it was up to them. You can’t blame trump for being successful dealing with media. The choice is simple for republicans.

 

[Good_Tidings]

So the people are mad at the insiders and then go and find the most unqualified candidate possilbe to prove a point! That makes sense. I guess they figured that since Homer Simpson is a cartoon, they can’t vote for hi, so let’s vote for Trump!

Trump played the media like the media mogel he is and they loved the high ratings. Now they know they have him to tear down and they will. And Hillary will be the next President and the Supreme Court is going liberal for the next 20 years. Hope your’e happy people! You showed us insiders!

I know you are trying to make a serious point, but you made me lol at the Homer Simpson allusion. Thanks for that.

 

[meltzerboy]

Is this really the person who would be a better president:

cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-trump-pence-republican-ticket/

That’s an interesting line of reasoning. It was OK for Mike Pence to vote for the Iraq War and Trump doesn’t care that he did because he’s entitled to make mistakes, but it’s not OK for Hillary to have voted in exactly the same way because she’s not entitled to make mistakes. That’s Trumpean logic in the Trumpean universe. I’m so reassured that someone who thinks like this might be our president. It seems so logical and intelligent…

I don’t know for sure but I believe Trump has a personality disorder, judging from the way he thinks and speaks.

Trump and Pence disagree on a whole host of topics, ranging from social issues such as SSM and possibly abortion, to economic and trade issues. Prior to his being chosen as Trump’s running mate, Pence stated that Trump is “unacceptable.” So why did Trump pick Pence? Supposedly it was to balance the ticket by ingratiating himself with the GOP establishment since Pence is a true conservative. I wonder whether the so-called establishment actually gave Trump an ultimatum that if he didn’t want “trouble” at the convention and beyond, he would have to pick someone solid like Pence. What does Pence offer the ticket? Perhaps a better opportunity to attract votes in the Midwestern states. In regard to the Evangelicals, Trump already has much of that vote as reflected in the primaries. But the fact Pence is so conservative and an Evangelical to boot will likely not play well among moderate Republicans and Independents.

 

[Al_Moritz]

Is this really the person who would be a better president:

cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-trump-pence-republican-ticket/

That’s an interesting line of reasoning. It was OK for Mike Pence to vote for the Iraq War and Trump doesn’t care that he did because he’s entitled to make mistakes, but it’s not OK for Hillary to have voted in exactly the same way because she’s not entitled to make mistakes. That’s Trumpean logic in the Trumpean universe. I’m so reassured that someone who thinks like this might be our president. It seems so logical and intelligent…

The whole interview is cringe inducing (by the way, conducted in a terrific manner by Leslie Stahl). Trump’s statements, not just the one you point out (even though that’s the most obviously embarrassing one), were full of glaring contradictions, and he cut off Pence many times.

How anyone who thinks rationally, beyond blind partisan stance, single-issue reasoning or just ‘gut feeling’, can vote for that ticket is beyond me.

 

[MaryT777]

The whole interview is cringe inducing (by the way, conducted in a terrific manner by Leslie Stahl). Trump’s statements, not just the one you point out (even though that’s the most obviously embarrassing one), were full of glaring contradictions, and he cut off Pence many times.

How anyone who thinks rationally, beyond blind partisan stance, single-issue reasoning or just ‘gut feeling’, can vote for that ticket is beyond me.

Some feel the single issue of abortion, which is murder, is a primary issue of concern.
That encompasses Clinton’s unbelievable pro abortion stand, taxpayer money used to pay for the demise of children, and the support of Planned Parenthood. PP is planned murder as they dole out free birth control and laugh all the way to the bank with the greenbacks they make off of abortion and selling baby parts.

That, and the possibility of a liberal supreme court is why I will vote the ticket noted above .Ginsburg speaking out about her “feelings” for a candidate was unbelievable. We don’t need more liberal justices on the courts

Trump will appoint conservatives to the Court and I am tired of having the liberal agenda for SS marriage, and GLBT rights shoved down my throat. Now they plan to indoctrinate our children by teaching GLBT history in our schools starting in California, while our nations falls behind in basic academic skills.

Another Clinton administration? No thanks.

 

[mary_bobo]

Some feel the single issue of abortion, which is murder, is a primary issue of concern.
That encompasses Clinton’s unbelievable pro abortion stand, taxpayer money used to pay for the demise of children, and the support of Planned Parenthood. PP is planned murder as they dole out free birth control and laugh all the way to the bank with the greenbacks they make off of abortion and selling baby parts.

That, and the possibility of a liberal supreme court is why I will vote the ticket noted above .Ginsburg speaking out about her “feelings” for a candidate was unbelievable. We don’t need more liberal justices on the courts

Trump will appoint conservatives to the Court and I am tired of having the liberal agenda for SS marriage, and GLBT rights shoved down my throat. Now they plan to indoctrinate our children by teaching GLBT history in our schools starting in California, while our nations falls behind in basic academic skills.

Another Clinton administration? No thanks.

I might also add that they may teach GLBT rights in school, but they don’t teach U.S. history or civics, both sorely needed, IMO.

 

[jediliz]

I might also add that they may teach GLBT rights in school, but they don’t teach U.S. history or civics, both sorely needed, IMO.

Considering the recent poll that showed many have no clue about basic history of the American Revolution… I agree there!

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Some feel the single issue of abortion, which is murder, is a primary issue of concern.
That encompasses Clinton’s unbelievable pro abortion stand, taxpayer money used to pay for the demise of children, and the support of Planned Parenthood. PP is planned murder as they dole out free birth control and laugh all the way to the bank with the greenbacks they make off of abortion and selling baby parts.

That, and the possibility of a liberal supreme court is why I will vote the ticket noted above .Ginsburg speaking out about her “feelings” for a candidate was unbelievable. We don’t need more liberal justices on the courts

Trump will appoint conservatives to the Court and I am tired of having the liberal agenda for SS marriage, and GLBT rights shoved down my throat. Now they plan to indoctrinate our children by teaching GLBT history in our schools starting in California, while our nations falls behind in basic academic skills.

Another Clinton administration? No thanks.

What you post is true.

In addition:

Veterans need to be treated better than illegals.

The southern border is wide open and Clinton has PROMISED to increase illegal immigrants HUGELY.

Our tax situation is worse than any other western nation. [That can be fixed in one day by just changing the tax rate table…]

These are easy to fix and Clinton has promised to make them worse.

Trump has spoken out and written how he would fix them. He discusses these things all the time. He discusses these things every time he speaks. Visit Google and type youtube trump july .

Federally controlled education is a disaster. Our children are ordered to study Islam in grammar school; but NOT Christianity … oh, no.

 

[GaryTaylor]

campusreform.org/?ID=7782

A recent poll released by Students for Life of America (SFLA) shows that only 17 percent of millennials agree with Hillary Clinton’s extreme stance on abortion.

The survey of adults ages 18-31 reveals that millennials are turning away from pro-choice positions and increasingly identifying with positions closer to the pro-life movement, a Thursday press release explains.

“Planned Parenthood would have the nation believe that young women are fighting with them…but that’s not the case.”

More specifically, millennials are particularly turned off by Clinton’s staunch defense of the most heinous abortion tactics, including the termination of late-term pregnancies.

In fact, only 17 percent of those surveyed agreed that abortion should be legal at any time, for any reason—a view that Clinton has championed as a female’s right. Similarly, the majority of participants said that abortion should only be legal in cases of rape, incest, or when the mother’s life is at risk.

Accordingly, the survey reveals that a majority of millennials (53 percent) think abortion should be illegal in all or most circumstances, representing a 9 percent increase in opposition to abortion from 2012 to 2016.

In fact, they just recently reached 1,043 active Students for Life chapters across the country. That outnumbers pro-abortion groups on college campuses nearly 4-to-1.

 

[Peter_Plato]

The whole interview is cringe inducing (by the way, conducted in a terrific manner by Leslie Stahl). Trump’s statements, not just the one you point out (even though that’s the most obviously embarrassing one), were full of glaring contradictions, and he cut off Pence many times.

How anyone who thinks rationally, beyond blind partisan stance, single-issue reasoning or just ‘gut feeling’, can vote for that ticket is beyond me.

You know what they say about “desperate times.” :crying:

The alternative would be much, much, much, worse.:bigyikes:

Your statement could be aimed, just as tellingly at HRC:

How could anyone who thinks rationally, beyond blind partisan stance, single-issue reasoning or just ‘gut feeling’, vote for THAT ticket?

hillarysamericathemovie.com

Fortunately for me, I do not live in the US, so I have no skin in the game. And I started out many months ago wondering why anyone would vote Trump, but now, given the alternative, he seems like an absolute no-brainer in comparison.

The real mystery is how in a country of some 320 000 000 citizens, the best that the political process of that country can arrive at for leader is between HRC and DT. :bighanky:

THAT is by far the bigger issue for "anyone who thinks rationally, beyond blind partisan stance, single-issue reasoning or just 'gut feeling’.”