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dixieagle said:
I think so, too. When you look at the Republican convention attendees, you see very clearly that they simply aren’t representative of the demographics of the country. As Trump will received negligible votes from minorities and not many more from women, I think he’s sunk. I don’t see Pence lighting any fires.
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Well that was clear just looking at Trump rallies during the primary season before the convention even kicked off.
 
dixieagle said:
I think so, too. When you look at the Republican convention attendees, you see very clearly that they simply aren’t representative of the demographics of the country. As Trump will received negligible votes from minorities and not many more from women, I think he’s sunk. I don’t see Pence lighting any fires.
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The O’Reilly Factor did a talking points memo when Laura Ingraham spoke, and it showed how in 2012 based on exit polling, 72% of the votes cast where from White, 13% Black, 10% Hispanic and 3% Asian and race voter turnout was 64% White, 67% Black, 48% Hispanic and 47% Asian, from Pew Research Center. It was then pointed out that if Trump increases the White vote he could get less than 20% of votes from minorities.

Eric Bolling then said that if Trump increases the voter participation to 70% (presumably he meant with White voters)…Bolling made the point in this, that that would basically make up for new voters. It was pointed out earlier in the talking points memo that a large percentage of these new voters are minority voters since 2012 (who presumably are more likely to vote Democratic and thus vote for Hillary Clinton).

So - Trump doesn’t need a massive turnout of minority voters voting for him, for him to win, not if he increases the voter turnout of White voters enough. It would be fantastic if Trump could get a large turnout of support from minorities, but that is doubtful. But it is interesting that a poll found that Trump is getting more support from Hispanics, than were for McCain or Romney: thehill.com/latino/287086-poll-trumps-hispanic-support-on-par-with-romney-2012
 
I loved it when Trump went to visit his eyesore of a golf course in Scotland and all the neighbours flew Mexican flags
 
dixieagle said:
I think so, too. When you look at the Republican convention attendees, you see very clearly that they simply aren’t representative of the demographics of the country. As Trump will received negligible votes from minorities and not many more from women, I think he’s sunk. I don’t see Pence lighting any fires.
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You saw no minorities? You must not have looked very hard.
 
Donald Trump Sets Conditions for Defending NATO Allies Against Attack
When asked what he hoped people would take away from the convention, Mr. Trump said, “The fact that I’m very well liked.”
Mr. Trump conceded that his approach to dealing with the United States’ allies and adversaries was radically different from the traditions of the Republican Party — whose candidates, since the end of World War II, have almost all pressed for an internationalist approach in which the United States is the keeper of the peace, the “indispensable nation.”
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“This is not 40 years ago,” Mr. Trump said, rejecting comparisons of his approaches to law-and-order issues and global affairs to Richard Nixon’s. Reiterating his threat to pull back United States troops deployed around the world, he said, “We are spending a fortune on military in order to lose $800 billion,” citing what he called America’s trade losses. “That doesn’t sound very smart to me.”
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Mr. Trump repeatedly defined American global interests almost purely in economic terms. Its roles as a peacekeeper, as a provider of a nuclear deterrent against adversaries like North Korea, as an advocate of human rights and as a guarantor of allies’ borders were each quickly reduced to questions of economic benefit to the United States.
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I appreciate your effort but I think some forum members have gone way beyond campaigning all the way into religious intimidation.
 
Suffolk Poll: Clinton and Trump Tied in Battleground Ohio

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Suffolk Poll: Clinton and Trump Tied in Battleground Ohio

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"As Donald Trump and the Republican delegates prepare to close out their party convention in Cleveland, a new Suffolk University poll of Ohio voters shows the race a dead heat in the Buckeye State, with Democrat Hillary Clinton and Trump tied at 44 percent and 11 percent undecided.

The battleground state of Ohio has earned a reputation as a bellwether for how the nation votes in presidential elections, with a long history of picking the ultimate winner.

In a four-way scenario, with Green Party nominee Jill Stein and Libertarian Gary Johnson added into the mix, Clinton edges Trump 43 percent to 39 percent in Ohio, with Johnson getting 5 percent, Stein 1 percent and 12 percent undecided.

Both Clinton and Trump are viewed unfavorably by a majority of voters, with Clinton looked on favorably be 41 percent of likely Ohio voters and unfavorably by 51 percent, while Trump had a 38 percent favorable and 53 percent unfavorable rating."

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Suffolk Poll: Clinton and Trump Tied in Battleground Ohio

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politickernj.com/2016/07/suffolk-poll-clinton-and-trump-tied-in-battleground-ohio/

"As Donald Trump and the Republican delegates prepare to close out their party convention in Cleveland, a new Suffolk University poll of Ohio voters shows the race a dead heat in the Buckeye State, with Democrat Hillary Clinton and Trump tied at 44 percent and 11 percent undecided.

The battleground state of Ohio has earned a reputation as a bellwether for how the nation votes in presidential elections, with a long history of picking the ultimate winner.

In a four-way scenario, with Green Party nominee Jill Stein and Libertarian Gary Johnson added into the mix, Clinton edges Trump 43 percent to 39 percent in Ohio, with Johnson getting 5 percent, Stein 1 percent and 12 percent undecided.

Both Clinton and Trump are viewed unfavorably by a majority of voters, with Clinton looked on favorably be 41 percent of likely Ohio voters and unfavorably by 51 percent, while Trump had a 38 percent favorable and 53 percent unfavorable rating."

Read more at Suffolk Poll: Clinton and Trump Tied in Battleground Ohio | New Jersey News, Politics, Opinion, and Analysis
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Interesting. I am seeing a lot of Trump signs and bumper stickers around here.
 
dixieagle said:
This election season is an utter nightmare. There were a number of perfectly decent, well-informed candidates who wouldn’t embarrass the country. But no, we end up with Trump. When he loses to Hillary, it will be the fault of those primary voters who chose him.
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Are you sure that Trump will lose?

Trump’s policies could benefit ordinary American workers. For example, consider his proposal to renegotiate trade deals with countries such as China. Consider his promise to enforce existing immigration law, so that Americans don’t have to compete in the labor market with anybody and everybody who can find a way to evade border controls, make or buy fraudulent identification documents, etc.

However, it seems that many of the people who would benefit from Trump’s policies will vote strictly along party lines, paying no attention to policy.

People who are embarrassed by Trump’s communication style are another example of people who cannot see beyond the superficial.

If Trump loses because he isn’t running under the Democratic Party label and because he doesn’t sound “Presidential” (like Ronald Reagan, or George W. Bush), then perhaps we should blame the superficial mindset of the people who will be voting in the Presidential election.

Trump could have improved his chances by getting some political experience. Barack Obama was a state Senator and then a US Senator. Ronald Reagan won two terms as Governor of California. However, it seems that Trump has followed in the footsteps of Ross Perot, impulsively reaching for the top.
 
mary_bobo said:
You saw no minorities? You must not have looked very hard.
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But why would it matter? Of course you will see all sorts of minorities at the Democrat convention because they have a strict quota system on the make up of delations.

*3. In the selection of each state’s at-large
delegation, priority of consideration
shall be given to African Americans,
Hispanics, Native Americans, Asian
Americans and Pacific Islanders and
women, if such priority of consideration
is needed to fulfill the affirmative action
goals outlined in the state’s Delegate
Selection Plan. Such remedial action is
necessary in order to overcome the
effects of past discrimination. Use of the
at-large delegation to fulfill the plan’s
affirmative action goals does not obviate
the need for the state party to conduct
outreach activities such as recruitment,
education and training. Priority of
consideration shall also be given to
other groups as described in Rule 5.(C),
which are under-represented in
Democratic Party affairs, in order to
assist in the achievement of full
participation by these groups. *

demrulz.org/wp-content/files/12.15.14_2016_Delegate_Selection_Documents_Mailing_-_Rules_Call_Regs_Model_Plan_Checklist_12.15.14.pdf
 
In the news:
LONDON — Donald Trump set off alarm bells in European capitals Thursday after suggesting he might not honor the core tenet of the NATO military alliance.
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Trump said the U.S. would not necessarily defend new NATO members in the Baltics in the event of Russian attack if he were elected to the White House.
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He told The New York Times in an interview published Thursday that doing so would depend on whether those countries had “fulfilled their obligations to us” in terms of their financial contributions to the alliance.
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“You can’t forget the bills,” Trump told the paper. “They have an obligation to make payments. Many NATO nations are not making payments, are not making what they’re supposed to make. That’s a big thing. You can’t say forget that.”
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Trump’s comments were perceived by some analysts as carte blanche for Russia to intimidate NATO allies and a potential harbinger of the alliance’s collapse were Trump to be elected.
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nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/donald-trump-remarks-nato-trigger-alarm-bells-europe-n613911

So what does everyone think of Trump’s statement that he would not honor our commitments to help defend our NATO allies? He also said that we should not criticize Erdogan in Turkey for all his purges which are not just directed at the military but also includes judges, teachers, etc.?
US Republican Party presidential nominee Donald Trump has praised Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan for his handling of last week’s failed coup.
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“I give great credit to him for being able to turn that around,” Trump said in an interview to The New York Times.
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The purge after the failed coup, which left more than 260 people dead, saw more than 50,000 civil servants fired, suspended or detained.
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On Wednesday night, Turkey imposed a three-month-long state of emergency.
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Asked if Erdogan was exploiting the coup attempt to get rid of his enemies, Trump said “I don’t think we have a right to lecture”.
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news.com.au/world/breaking-news/trump-praises-erdogan-for-coup-crackdown/news-story/52a1786d7b1a69a108a3f9a082351c4e
 
Thorolfr said:
In the news:

nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/donald-trump-remarks-nato-trigger-alarm-bells-europe-n613911

So what does everyone think of Trump’s statement that he would not honor our commitments to help defend our NATO allies? He also said that we should not criticize Erdogan in Turkey for all his purges which are not just directed at the military but also includes judges, teachers, etc.?
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Wouldn’t that be in direct violation of the NATO treaty that we signed? Does he want to pull out of NATO?

Putin must be rubbing his hands together and beaming.
 
estesbob said:
But why would it matter? Of course you will see all sorts of minorities at the Democrat convention because they have a strict quota system on the make up of delations.

*3. In the selection of each state’s at-large
delegation, priority of consideration
shall be given to African Americans,
Hispanics, Native Americans, Asian
Americans and Pacific Islanders and
women, if such priority of consideration
is needed to fulfill the affirmative action
goals outlined in the state’s Delegate
Selection Plan. Such remedial action is
necessary in order to overcome the
effects of past discrimination. Use of the
at-large delegation to fulfill the plan’s
affirmative action goals does not obviate
the need for the state party to conduct
outreach activities such as recruitment,
education and training. Priority of
consideration shall also be given to
other groups as described in Rule 5.(C),
which are under-represented in
Democratic Party affairs, in order to
assist in the achievement of full
participation by these groups. *

demrulz.org/wp-content/files/12.15.14_2016_Delegate_Selection_Documents_Mailing_-_Rules_Call_Regs_Model_Plan_Checklist_12.15.14.pdf
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Why am I not surprised. The longer I live, the more discouraged I get to think that people buy this line hook, line and sinker.
 
tomarin said:
Wouldn’t that be in direct violation of the NATO treaty that we signed? Does he want to pull out of NATO?

Putin must be rubbing his hands together and beaming.
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I suspect he would much rather have Hillary-hes already conned her once.
 
tomarin said:
Wouldn’t that be in direct violation of the NATO treaty that we signed? Does he want to pull out of NATO?

Putin must be rubbing his hands together and beaming.
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When Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader was interviewed about Trump’s statements, he said, “I am willing to kind of chalk it up to a rookie mistake.” Do we really want a rookie to become our next president?
 
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