Out of curiosity, what is it that you find superior about the Vatican claim to being the one Church over the Orthodox or Coptic claim? (not trying to distract or debate - I won’t comment on whatever you say, I’m just curious)
Is it just me or is it odd that there hasn’t been a response to this question yet?
It’s Jimmy B;
I’ve seen him come back and reply months after abandoning comment on his own thread. Maybe about April I’ll hear about a rotten neighbor of his who shoves those horrible Chick tracts under his door and then goes back to his day job dealing crack. I won’t reply, because I’ll be dealing with a new baby… 
Complain, sure. Compare all of us to that dude? Unneccessary.It’s Jimmy B;
Sure, but if that’s the main Protestant contact he has on a day-to-day basis (kicking the new pile of tracts aside as he walks out the door to his car every morning) and that guy claims OSAS, I can see why it would be a bee in Jimmy B’s bonnet. (Of course, this is still a hypothetical neighbor, you understand, I don’t know what Jimmy B’s Protestant contacts might be like.)
I’ve seen that flippy thing, and I’ll betcha she’s memorized a ton of individual verses rather than reading the whole thing multiple times. It’s tough to escape the idea that Christians continue to sin when you read the whole thing. That’s pretty much the core of every epistle: “here’s how you’re messing up, and you need to fix it in these ways.”
Actually I have
They’re out there pal, trust me. I even remember a short-wave broadcast not long ago (about a month) that started off something like “Since there is nothing we can possibly do to lose our salvation after we are saved, why should we bother to act differently? Well we sure don’t have to, but by changing our habits we can draw others to Christ. More on how to do this after the break.” It was one of those shows from WWCR Nashville or the station in Obachobie (sp), FL I can’t remember which. I thought the whole thing too stupid & switched to Radio Tipei.Gottle of Geer,That sort of nonsense hurts Catholicism far more than Protestantism.
I’m just very sorry you’ve been subjected to it
This post reveals your ignorance of the sola gratia doctrine. Sola gratia doesn’t exclude these things but rather enables them. If you don’t believe that you are saved by grace alone than you are by defibition a Pelagian heretic and not a catholic.
And this coming from an Anglican…
I still think Jimmy was referring to “Faith Alone”, and not “Grace Alone”, which I understand to be an accepted Catholic belief. What say you, Jimmy?
Well, I wouldn’t want to judge the sophistication of someone’s theology from a radio soundbite. I have heard statements like that in conversation. So far, when challenged, those people have always had a much more nuanced view than the soundbite would indicate.Actually I have
Right on. And I am sorry catholics have to deal with the same kind of stuff from other protestants.That sort of nonsense hurts Catholicism far more than Protestantism.
Roll your eyes all you want but it is you who doesn’t even know the teaching of your own church which teaches that christians are saved by grace alone. So before you create straw men to mock the faith of others perhaps you should read up on what your own church teaches firstAnd this coming from an Anglican…
Originally Posted by Gottle of Geer forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_cab/viewpost.gif
## That sort of nonsense hurts Catholicism far more than Protestantism.
Isn’t this nice?:hug3:
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Great, so…if you understand and agree with Catholicism then why aren’t you a Catholic?Roll your eyes all you want but it is you who doesn’t even know the teaching of your own church which teaches that christians are saved by grace alone. So before you create straw men to mock the faith of others perhaps you should read up on what your own church teaches first
Why do you say that I’m “angry”?