Don't Support Devilish Music(Rock Music)!!!

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musicgal4jesus said:
I love this example. Some people would be really turned off by the type of music Skillet plays, because it’s rock/metal, but they use it to spread the Good News just as much as any preacher.

Music in itself is not good or bad. That’s why I dislike the term “Christian music,” for example- music can’t be Christian, as in it believes that Christ is the savior or anything. Music is just a collection of sounds arranged in an ear-pleasing (or not! 😉 ) manner. How you use the music makes it pleasing to God or not.
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Mothers_Boy said:
Not having read more than a few of the pages of this thread I come away with a few thoughts.

There isn’t to much Rock / Hard Rock / Heavy Metal I would have playing in my house when my pastor comes over.

Does that make all the music bad? Probably not. Is there a percentage of it that is bad? Probably. I personally find that I am a more joyful person if I am not listening to Rock / Hard Rock / Heavy Metal. There seems to be an inherant aggresion and definite hedonism to a lot of the music I chose to listen to as a teen. Sad, but true. There is not alot of rock/metal that is worth listening to. However, if you find some, such as Skillet, Kutless, Thousandfootcrutch, or Decipher Down, you’ve found a gem. The lyrics, I believe, have an affect on the listener whether he / she wants it to or not. Absolutely. That’s one reason why I don’t like it when people condemn a certain type of music. It’s not the music that makes it bad. It’s the lyrics.Ozzy Osbournes “Suicide Solution” didn’t cause me to want to kill myself, with liquor or any other “weapon” but I also can’t say it wouldn’t have that affect on another person. In the Act of Contrition we say that we will avoid occasions for sin. While listening to a song may not be sinful, in itself. It may dispose someone to sin. Unfortunately.

My other thought is this. It is disconcerting to me to see the number of uncharitable posts in this thread. The OP expressed his opinion and the number of attacks on his opinion seemed to out number the well thought responses. Are we that unable to withstand someone voicing opposition to something we hold dear? As Christians, if we have that kind of negative response to an opinion about something such as the music we like, shouldn’t we consider whether that music has become an idol? Just some thoughts.Preach it brother! 👍
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MarysGirls said:
Absolutely. That’s one reason why I don’t like it when people condemn a certain type of music. It’s not the music that makes it bad. It’s the lyrics.
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I understand what you’re getting at, and I wholeheartedly agree that it is a mistake to condemn an entire genre of music as being “of the devil” (I listen pretty much exclusively to heavy metal).

But, I think we also need to avoid oversimplifying the whole thing and saying that the lyrics are the only thing that matters when discerning what might be good to listen to. Compare, for example, the song “Sounds of Silence” as sung by Simon & Garfunkle to the version sung by the band Nevermore. The lyrics are exactly the same, but the music is very different.

Music by itself can elicit a great spectrum of emotions within us. I would very much like to read the thoughts of people far smarter than I as to the subjective and objective dimensions of music and how they interrelate. When discussions such as this arise, it can be easy to look at the whole thing dualistically: One side tries to paint music as completely objective. From this vantage point, one can then say that this music is objectively evil and no one should listen to it. The other side tries to paint it as subjective. From this vantage point, the whole discussion is ludicrous: “If you don’t like it, don’t listen to it.”

I think it’s a bit more complex than that. Music cannot be painted in black and white, but neither is it only shades of gray. Movies utilize the objective elements of music all the time. There are some types of music that just “feel” more epic, sad, tense, joyful, etc. If music was only subjective, then composers could not count on a near unviversal emotive response from their audience when composing music for different scenes. And yet, if it was only objective, then it would seem we would all have the same musical tastes.

Perhaps I’ve gotten a bit far afield from your original point, and for that I apologize. Your post just got me thinking (a dangerous thing, I know! ;)).
 
Hm, those are good points, Joe. Another major factor is what part of the world you live in. For example, in the western world, we consider minor keys “sad”, but in eastern music, they’re quite common and aren’t considered “sad”. Also, some parts of the world use different intervals for their scales that we would just consider “out of tune”. But I suppose for certain regions of the world, you can expect certain emotional responses. Of course, there are also those extreme fundamentalists who believe that music is only for thinking and not feeling, whatever that’s supposed to mean. :rolleyes:
 
CTA1967 said:
Hm, those are good points, Joe. Another major factor is what part of the world you live in. For example, in the western world, we consider minor keys “sad”, but in eastern music, they’re quite common and aren’t considered “sad”. Also, some parts of the world use different intervals for their scales that we would just consider “out of tune”.
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Interesting. Perhaps some of the “objective” dimensions of music are culturally-shaped and not necessarily universal. Just to open another can of worms. 😉

Suddenly, I feel the need to study music theory. 😃
 
TheWhoFreak said:
Just playing devil’s advocate, but how do you know that? I’ve seen much evidence that says otherwise.
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Please direct me to the “true” statements in the following quote.
Hi again.I just went back from a Life In Spirit Seminar two days ago and the priest was talking about how people got influenced by the devil.He talked about cults,occults,spirit of the coin,magic.But one thing was really getting my attention when the priest was talking about how people today are influenced by the devil through music(rock music,country music,etcetera).
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During his talk,he mentioned bands and singers like John Lennon,Beatles,Eagles,Beach Boys and more!I was shocked to hear that these people were involved in Satanism!!.
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Okay, besides the fact that the OP went to a Life in Spirit seminar. :rolleyes:
 
Well, definitely the Beach Boys are the Devil’s music. “Help Me, Rhonda”, for example…

“Since she put me down, there’s been owls pukin’ in my bed…”

Definitely a Satanic message!
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
One of the biggest things I’ve hated about fundamentalists is that they’re always reinforcing the negative stereotypes of religion. Being anti-rock music happens to be one of them.
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That’s odd, because I’m a fundamentalist and neither I nor most fundamentalists I know are anti-rock.
 
TheWhoFreak said:
Just playing devil’s advocate, but how do you know that? I’ve seen much evidence that says otherwise.
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Because there’s no evidence to suggest that it’s true and in the case of the Eagles, most of the “Satanic” stories center around “Hotel California” and the rumor that HC is Satanic have been debunked long ago.
 
JohnDeereFan said:
That’s odd, because I’m a fundamentalist and neither I nor most fundamentalists I know are anti-rock.
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Don’t worry, you’re not the first I’ve met who’s said this and she’s even one of my online buddies. Just so you know that I’m speaking of the old type of fundies (e.g. John Todd, Bill Schnoebelen etc).
 
Ghoti said:
Well, definitely the Beach Boys are the Devil’s music. “Help Me, Rhonda”, for example…

“Since she put me down, there’s been owls pukin’ in my bed…”

Definitely a Satanic message!
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That’s what they’re saying? I always wondered… I still like some of their songs though. “God Only Knows” for example.
 
RDJ said:
But everything they say is true!!! You know people like Hannah Montana and The Backstreet Boys are the most ungodly people alive (which they discuss on the site)!
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:rotfl:

Seriously, I generally couldn’t care less about what the people making the music do with their lives. It’s their lives, I just like what I hear when they play something. :rolleyes:

Tell me, if you were eating at a five-star restaurant. Would you care if the skilled chef that prepared your meal was a pagan and wasn’t exactly living a virtuous life? :rolleyes:

P.S.

At the risk of sounding off topic. Since you say everything that stupid website says is true, I suppose you’re going to agree with their nutcase stance that Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! are gateways to witchcraft?
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
:rotfl:

Seriously, I generally couldn’t care less about what the people making the music do with their lives. It’s their lives, I just like what I hear when they play something. :rolleyes:

Tell me, if you were eating at a five-star restaurant. Would you care if the skilled chef that prepared your meal was a pagan and wasn’t exactly living a virtuous life? :rolleyes:

P.S.

At the risk of sounding off topic. Since you say everything that stupid website says is true, I suppose you’re going to agree with their nutcase stance that Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! are gateways to witchcraft?
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Don’t worry Lost Wanderer. I think he was being sarcastic in saying everything on the web site is true 🙂
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
:rotfl:

Seriously, I generally couldn’t care less about what the people making the music do with their lives. It’s their lives, I just like what I hear when they play something. :rolleyes:

Tell me, if you were eating at a five-star restaurant. Would you care if the skilled chef that prepared your meal was a pagan and wasn’t exactly living a virtuous life? :rolleyes:

P.S.

At the risk of sounding off topic. Since you say everything that stupid website says is true, I suppose you’re going to agree with their nutcase stance that Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! are gateways to witchcraft?
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I was being sarcastic. I haven’t seen the pages on Yu-Gi-Oh! or Pokemon, but I will have to check those out.
 
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