Don't worry about Pope Francis!

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IrishRush said:
We would love to share him with you!
Join us! 😃
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That’s a very kind offer and I’m very appreciative. 😃

But either I’m not ready for your Church, or your Church isn’t ready for someone like me.

I don’t know which 😛

Sarah x 🙂
 
atheistgirl said:
He seemed to stand still for so long.

When he shifted his weight onto his left foot, I thought, oh my gosh, he’s going to faint.

I was maybe just projecting though.

Were it me, I’d have fainted as soon as the curtain came back 😃

He was probably in some kind of spiritual place.

When he spoke, I was really taken aback.

I don’t know why that should be - I think it was the warmth in his voice.

He seemed to instantly connect with the gathered multitude.

I think there’s something quite special about this man.

Sarah x 🙂
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I wish you could have been this invested when JPII was around as well.

I’m really liking Pope Francis, and I know he will continue to do more and more amazing things. But Popes like JPII only come once in a lifetime… if you’re lucky. He was a saint on Earth.
 
atheistgirl said:
That’s a very kind offer and I’m very appreciative. 😃

But either I’m not ready for your Church, or your Church isn’t ready for someone like me.

I don’t know which 😛

Sarah x 🙂
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I’m not sure anyone can be ready for things. I know the world is ready to see what Pope Francis will give of himself to the world.

And Sara, you are valuable to the world even if a Church is not ready for you.
 
I wonder if he has used the limo yet - I feel sorry for the poor driver who was all excited at driving the brand new pope, and found himself dumped in preference to a bus ride. Will he be out of a job?
 
Oneofthewomen said:
Maybe… 😉
Orthodox Patriarch to attend Papal Inauguration

Patriarch Bartholomew I, who is regarded as the spiritual leader of the world’s Orthodox Christians, will attend pope’s inaugural mass for the first time since the Great Schism between the Western and Eastern churches, Vatican Radio said.

I so love our new Papa!! 🙂
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This is wonderful news. :extrahappy: I have so many Orthodox and Coptic friends. It would be great if there was more unity between our churches.

God bless Pope Francis
 
Falco said:
I wonder if he has used the limo yet - I feel sorry for the poor driver who was all excited at driving the brand new pope, and found himself dumped in preference to a bus ride. Will he be out of a job?
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I’m sure there’ll be plenty of others who are happy to use the limo if His Holiness doesn’t - I doubt it will go to waste.
 
Gah! Just reading all this about the new pope getsme all happy, warm and fuzzy!! He is so cute!😃
 
atheistgirl said:
That’s a very kind offer and I’m very appreciative. 😃

But either I’m not ready for your Church, or your Church isn’t ready for someone like me.

I don’t know which 😛

Sarah x 🙂
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Ahhh, the Church is ready for each of us, but becoming Catholic is like becoming a parent: you can’t be ready until you are in the middle of it… being it, a parent or a Catholic, is what makes you change the way you need to.

We’ll just have to keep praying for you 🙂
 
the pope can play his games for a while,but I think he should have higher priorities than retrieving bags from a hotel – creating a sensation. Who will be listening to him, if he’s just going through a second childhood?

His behavior doesn’t make sense for most 76-yo men, much less one who is the leader of the faith for so many Catholics. Do you know how ridiculous he looks, in circles which are just looking for ammunition to fire against him?

I couldn’t keep up with the scholarly and inspiring talks and speeches of the last two popes; I’m waiting patiently to be overwhelmed by something spiritual that he accomplishes.
 
sirach2v4 said:
the pope can play his games for a while,but I think he should have higher priorities than retrieving bags from a hotel – creating a sensation. Who will be listening to him, if he’s just going through a second childhood?
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Do you understand religious life? Do you understand the Franciscan spirit? This is not a game to him. This is who he is. He is a consecrated religious. You’re not going to take that out of him.
His behavior doesn’t make sense for most 76-yo men, much less one who is the leader of the faith for so many Catholics.
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His behavior makes perfect sense to a religious. He’s being very much a Jesuit: simple, a working man, self-sufficient, one with the poor and the working class. Working class men don’t have servants retrieving their bags. They carry them.
Do you know how ridiculous he looks, in circles which are just looking for ammunition to fire against him?
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I’m sorry, but so far, you’re the first person who has used the word “ridiculous”. Even the secular media is loving this man’s simplicity.
I couldn’t keep up with the scholarly and inspiring talks and speeches of the last two popes; I’m waiting patiently to be overwhelmed by something spiritual that he accomplishes.
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Let’s see:
  1. He begins his introduction to the people inviting them to pray for the Pope Emeritus.
  2. He asks the people to pray for him.
  3. He consecrates his papacy and the people of his diocese to the Blessed Mother on his visit to St. Mary Major.
  4. He reminds the cardinals at his first mass as pope that they must embrace the cross, confess Christ and embrace the poor.
  5. In his meeting with the cardinals he tells them something that you may find helpful. “Let us never give in to pessimism, to that bitterness that the devil offers us every day.”
  6. He sent a message to the Senior Rabbi of Rome inviting him to continue the work that the Church and the Jews have begun.
  7. He invited the Greek Orthodox Patriarch to his installation mass and the Patriarch accepted. It will be the first time in history that the Patriarch will set foot at the Vatican for the installation of a pope. He has never accepted the invitation before.
  8. He lives according to the poverty and simplicity of St. Francis of Assisi, St. Francis Xavier and St. Ignatius.
  9. He was involved in a face to face confrontation with the president of Argentina over same-sex marriage and abortion.
  10. He has embraced the people of the Diocese of Rome reminding them that he is not only the pope, but he is their bishop and is there for them.
  11. Faithful to his vow of poverty as a consecrated religious, he payed for his stay at the hotel, rather than have it given to him. He gave an example to religious men and women that even the pope does not cease to be a religious. On the contrary, the more public we are, the greater our obligation to be live what we vowed when we made solemn vows.
The list goes on. What more do you want? The man can’t walk on water, as far as we know. You cannot forget that this pope is not a secular priest. He is a religious. Everything that he does is a natural part of being a religious. Canon Law and theology give him the right to continue to live as a Jesuit, even if he is the Bishop of Rome. Do you want him to cease being a religious? We have always complained that the hierarchy is too secular. Now we have a pope who is very much the consecrated religious and you call him ridiculous. What do we want?
 
JReducation said:
Do you understand religious life? Do you understand the Franciscan spirit? This is not a game to him. This is who he is. He is a consecrated religious. You’re not going to take that out of him.

His behavior makes perfect sense to a religious. He’s being very much a Jesuit: simple, a working man, self-sufficient, one with the poor and the working class. Working class men don’t have servants retrieving their bags. They carry them.

I’m sorry, but so far, you’re the first person who has used the word “ridiculous”. Even the secular media is loving this man’s simplicity.

Let’s see:
  1. He begins his introduction to the people inviting them to pray for the Pope Emeritus.
  2. He asks the people to pray for him.
  3. He consecrates his papacy and the people of his diocese to the Blessed Mother on his visit to St. Mary Major.
  4. He reminds the cardinals at his first mass as pope that they must embrace the cross, confess Christ and embrace the poor.
  5. In his meeting with the cardinals he tells them something that you may find helpful. “Let us never give in to pessimism, to that bitterness that the devil offers us every day.”
  6. He sent a message to the Senior Rabbi of Rome inviting him to continue the work that the Church and the Jews have begun.
  7. He invited the Greek Orthodox Patriarch to his installation mass and the Patriarch accepted. It will be the first time in history that the Patriarch will set foot at the Vatican for the installation of a pope. He has never accepted the invitation before.
  8. He lives according to the poverty and simplicity of St. Francis of Assisi, St. Francis Xavier and St. Ignatius.
  9. He was involved in a face to face confrontation with the president of Argentina over same-sex marriage and abortion.
  10. He has embraced the people of the Diocese of Rome reminding them that he is not only the pope, but he is their bishop and is there for them.
  11. Faithful to his vow of poverty as a consecrated religious, he payed for his stay at the hotel, rather than have it given to him. He gave an example to religious men and women that even the pope does not cease to be a religious. On the contrary, the more public we are, the greater our obligation to be live what we vowed when we made solemn vows.
The list goes on. What more do you want? The man can’t walk on water, as far as we know. You cannot forget that this pope is not a secular priest. He is a religious. Everything that he does is a natural part of being a religious. Canon Law and theology give him the right to continue to live as a Jesuit, even if he is the Bishop of Rome. Do you want him to cease being a religious? We have always complained that the hierarchy is too secular. Now we have a pope who is very much the consecrated religious and you call him ridiculous. What do we want?
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Couldn’t have said it better myself, Brother.

Critics might equally have thought him “ridiculous”, “childish” and a flash-in-the-pan with no spiritual clout as Archbishop of Buenos Aires. He seems to have shown in his dealings with many - the Argentine government, liberation theologists and so on - that he has substance and does not live the way he does merely for show or on a whim.

Cardinals don’t elect a mere childish simpleton as Pope. Both worldly and otherwordly interest would prohibit it.
 
atheistgirl said:
That’s a very kind offer and I’m very appreciative. 😃

But either I’m not ready for your Church, or your Church isn’t ready for someone like me.

I don’t know which 😛

Sarah x 🙂
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Our Church is ALWAYS ready for you, precious Sarah!
 
atheistgirl said:
I can also see:

Swiss Guard very annoyed at having to share their rooms with Rome’s homeless!

Swiss Guard loose Pope on trip to Capetown. Pope found safe and well playing with children in the slums!

Swiss Guard have to jog back to Rome after Pope sells Limo to pay for medicine during unscheduled stop at Hospice!

Remember these young Catholic men in your prayers.

They’re about to earn their wages 😃

Sarah x 🙂
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There’s a comedy in this somewhere, or at least a good SNL scetch.
But they’d mess it up…

Hey them Vatican guards looked pretty tough to me.
I read somewhere (maybe I’m saying this to wrong person with a Native American beside her name:eek:) that four of the soldiers who died at Little Big Horn were members of the Vatican guard.
 
JReducation said:
Do you understand religious life? Do you understand the Franciscan spirit? This is not a game to him. This is who he is. He is a consecrated religious. You’re not going to take that out of him.

His behavior makes perfect sense to a religious. He’s being very much a Jesuit: simple, a working man, self-sufficient, one with the poor and the working class. Working class men don’t have servants retrieving their bags. They carry them.

I’m sorry, but so far, you’re the first person who has used the word “ridiculous”. Even the secular media is loving this man’s simplicity.

Let’s see:
  1. He begins his introduction to the people inviting them to pray for the Pope Emeritus.
  2. He asks the people to pray for him.
  3. He consecrates his papacy and the people of his diocese to the Blessed Mother on his visit to St. Mary Major.
  4. He reminds the cardinals at his first mass as pope that they must embrace the cross, confess Christ and embrace the poor.
  5. In his meeting with the cardinals he tells them something that you may find helpful. “Let us never give in to pessimism, to that bitterness that the devil offers us every day.”
  6. He sent a message to the Senior Rabbi of Rome inviting him to continue the work that the Church and the Jews have begun.
  7. He invited the Greek Orthodox Patriarch to his installation mass and the Patriarch accepted. It will be the first time in history that the Patriarch will set foot at the Vatican for the installation of a pope. He has never accepted the invitation before.
  8. He lives according to the poverty and simplicity of St. Francis of Assisi, St. Francis Xavier and St. Ignatius.
  9. He was involved in a face to face confrontation with the president of Argentina over same-sex marriage and abortion.
  10. He has embraced the people of the Diocese of Rome reminding them that he is not only the pope, but he is their bishop and is there for them.
  11. Faithful to his vow of poverty as a consecrated religious, he payed for his stay at the hotel, rather than have it given to him. He gave an example to religious men and women that even the pope does not cease to be a religious. On the contrary, the more public we are, the greater our obligation to be live what we vowed when we made solemn vows.
The list goes on. What more do you want? The man can’t walk on water, as far as we know. You cannot forget that this pope is not a secular priest. He is a religious. Everything that he does is a natural part of being a religious. Canon Law and theology give him the right to continue to live as a Jesuit, even if he is the Bishop of Rome. Do you want him to cease being a religious? We have always complained that the hierarchy is too secular. Now we have a pope who is very much the consecrated religious and you call him ridiculous. What do we want?
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I agree with you, though I also think your views on this are somewhat skewed because you are a religious. It does help to have a secular perspective. The Papacy isn’t being the Superior of the Jesuits. It has a very secular, in the weeds realpolitik element, for good or ill. I think Francis will be fine. .
 
atheistgirl said:
Spare a prayer for the Swiss Guard :D:D:D

I fully expect to read the following newspaper headline any day now:

Swiss Guard asleep in barracks while Pope sneaks out at midnight to talk to drug gangs 😃

I’m really liking this new Pope of yours 😃

Sarah x 🙂
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Doesnt he just make you smile 🙂

Such the ordinary people’s pope 😃
 
JReducation said:
You cannot forget that this pope is not a secular priest. He is a religious. Everything that he does is a natural part of being a religious. Canon Law and theology give him the right to continue to live as a Jesuit, even if he is the Bishop of Rome. Do you want him to cease being a religious? We have always complained that the hierarchy is too secular. Now we have a pope who is very much the consecrated religious and you call him ridiculous. What do we want?
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Well said. Perhaps the college of cardinals will also be blessed with some religious priests during this papacy.
 
Marie5890 said:
Doesnt he just make you smile 🙂

Such the ordinary people’s pope 😃
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I have been smiling almost continually since his election. (And considering my only vehicle broke a ball joint while I was driving, and I don’t have the money to fix it, then the kids missed the bus so we had to bike to school - first time I’ve ridden one in 20 years - ouch! And I’m STILL smiling? Pretty amazing!)

I love everything about what I know about him so far and am so eager to hear and learn more.

His words fill me with joy, and his example fills me with hope.
 
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