Douay-Rheims Bible vs Other Protestant Bibles

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dje101 said:
Awesome, thanks so much. I just ordered the RSV-2CE off amazon. It should be here on Friday. I’m excited! 😃
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Good for you! One more suggestion: Catholicism for Dummies. It will explain virtually everything about the Catholic faith. I can’t recommend it enough. In the past 500 years, a lot of falsehoods, rumors and gossip about the Church have been spread around. You need the truth.
 
po18guy said:
Good for you! One more suggestion: Catholicism for Dummies. It will explain virtually everything about the Catholic faith. I can’t recommend it enough. In the past 500 years, a lot of falsehoods, rumors and gossip about the Church have been spread around. You need the truth.
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I’ve seen that book at Barnes & Noble and have been wondering if it is worth picking up. Thanks for the advice. Its funny; I was talking with my girlfriend the other day (who is Catholic) and while we were talking about all the things that I’ve learned about the CC, things kept popping up in my mind about things that I had missed when I was in my protestant churches, and things that were just never mentioned. Things such as Paul talking about the deacons and priests in Acts (I think it is), or the handkerchief from Paul that God was causing miracles through, and just the fact that the CC seems to be a natural extension of Judaism, which would be normal since the founder of the church (JESUS) was Jewish.

I’ve still got the voice of my old youth pastor in the back of my mind saying “Catholics are polytheists”, but the more I study about the church, the more I start to think, “you had know idea what you were talking about”.
 
Salvatore123 said:
dje101,

I mean this: it does my heart good to see someone get excited by something that represents the faith of my fathers. I hope your new Bible will lead you to a new understanding and hopefully, a realization, that we Catholics don’t want protestants to become Catholics because we NEED them to . . .

We want protestants to become Catholic because we love them, my friend.
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Thank you for your support 😃

God Bless
 
dje101 said:
So I’ve seen a lot of discussion about what bible to get. Many people seem to recommend the DR Bible Translation (and not the NAB) because it comes from the Latin Vulgate. I, coming from a Protestant background, have many bibles of many different translations: NIV, NASV, ESV, KJV, and NKJV. All of these translations say that they were translated using the most up-to-date language professors and what not using the earliest available manuscripts (or something along those lines). If the NIV, NASV, etc, all say that they are using the manuscripts, and the DR translation comes from the Latin Vulate, then why should I get a DR translation? It just seems to me that the translations that were translated from the manuscripts THEMSELVES would be more accurate than the DR bible, which is translated from the LV.

I’m not trying to start a debate or anything, just looking for good solid reasons as to why I would want to get a DR bible. Thanks for you time!!
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the decision to get a copy of the Douay-Rheims is a personal decision. Having members of my family that are King James onlyist the Douay helps me out and I really understand the translation. Another reason I chose the Douay over other Bibles is on some verses and how they are worded.
 
One thing many people often forget - the DR was published BEFORE the King James AV, and the DR actually served, in part, as a basis-text for the King James.

Just an fyi . . .
 
dje101 said:
I’ve seen that book at Barnes & Noble and have been wondering if it is worth picking up. Thanks for the advice. Its funny; I was talking with my girlfriend the other day (who is Catholic) and while we were talking about all the things that I’ve learned about the CC, things kept popping up in my mind about things that I had missed when I was in my protestant churches, and things that were just never mentioned. Things such as Paul talking about the deacons and priests in Acts (I think it is), or the handkerchief from Paul that God was causing miracles through, and just the fact that the CC seems to be a natural extension of Judaism, which would be normal since the founder of the church (JESUS) was Jewish.

I’ve still got the voice of my old youth pastor in the back of my mind saying “Catholics are polytheists”, but the more I study about the church, the more I start to think, “you had know idea what you were talking about”.
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It is written by two very well educated priests (PhD, ThD) and is a very readable style, being aimed at the layman, such as myself. I’ve been Catholic for quite awhile, and am learning much from it.
 
Salvatore123 said:
  1. The Confraternity Bible (consists of one NT volume and 4 OT volumes). You can find these on Ebay and on the “out of print” sections of online booksellers such as Amazon, B&N, Abebooks, Bibliofind, and Loome Theological bookseller. Volume 2 (published last) will be almost impossible to find - I don’t know why. I have an entire set that is in almost mint condition, is doctrinally sound in its translation, and is a joy to read.
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The Confraternity Bible is available as one volume, and is very easy to find. Some of them have the DR version as the Old Testament, and in later editions, much of the OT was updated. That latter one is the better one to get, esp if you already have a DR. I agree that the Confraternity Bible is the best overall Catholic Bible.
 
Regarding the “young woman/virgin” discussion concerning Isaiah 7:14, it seems that the translation of the Hebrew “almah” should reflect its fuller meaning and not just “virgin.” The problem is that “almah” in Isaiah’s Hebrew has a quite different meaning than “young woman” in has in our English of today. The best approach, it seems, would be to retain “young woman” in the English translation of Isaiah 7:14 with a foot note delineating the several aspects of what that meant in Isaiah’s time, including “virgin.” Matthew 1:23 would use “virgin,” because that’s what the canon says in Greek, with a foot note referencing this as the Holy Spirit’s explanation and application of the meaning of Isaiah 7:14.

Then everybody in the Christian camp can be happy, and Isaiah 7:14t becomes an opportunity for Jewish evangelism using their own “almah” text in it’s historical setting that points to their Messiah.
 
fredphall said:
Regarding the “young woman/virgin” discussion concerning Isaiah 7:14, it seems that the translation of the Hebrew “almah” should reflect its fuller meaning and not just “virgin.” The problem is that “almah” in Isaiah’s Hebrew has a quite different meaning than “young woman” in has in our English of today. The best approach, it seems, would be to retain “young woman” in the English translation of Isaiah 7:14 with a foot note delineating the several aspects of what that meant in Isaiah’s time, including “virgin.” Matthew 1:23 would use “virgin,” because that’s what the canon says in Greek, with a foot note referencing this as the Holy Spirit’s explanation and application of the meaning of Isaiah 7:14.

Then everybody in the Christian camp can be happy, and Isaiah 7:14t becomes an opportunity for Jewish evangelism using their own “almah” text in it’s historical setting that points to their Messiah.
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onbehalfofall.org/2012/02/03/the-song-of-simeon-and-the-bible/

The Jews (Masoteres) changed the words of the Hebrew texts to eliminate all references to the Sonhood and Divine qualities of Chirst and the Virginhood of the Theotokos.

onbehalfofall.org/2012/03/31/saint-justin-and-the-divine-origin-of-the-septuagint/

newadvent.org/fathers/120118.htm

Read Chaper 43 and 44 of St. Augustine´s City of God.
 
I bought the St Benedict press RSV CE and the words of our Lord are in red, Really great to read. I also bought the Ignatius Study Bible NT and that has been brilliant to read side by side.

What i wanted to ask is, how do we know that the parables of our Lord have been fathomed out correctly? Are the answers in the study bible to the different parables correct in their translation?
 
I like the Douay-Rheims because, back then, Bible translators were biased either towards protestantism or Catholicism. Nowadays, Bible translators are biased with political agendas and commercialism. I prefer even the KJV over modern translations.
 
Another option is the recently republished Knox Version from Baronius press. It is a beautiful translation of the Latin Vulgate translated by Fr. Ronald Knox in the mid 20th century.

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