Aren’t you bothered that the Roman Catholic church isn’t attacked? The Pope and catholics are well loved, there is no persercution of catholics is there?
Can you tell me where I can get a copy of the “New York Catechism”, because I have yet to find a single printed copy of this reference, yet I have seen this quote thrown around by more than one anti-Catholic distortionist (which leads me to my next point, we are attacked constantly as Catholics, both from the inside as well as the outside, usually with complete lies and fabrications such as this quote you provide from the infamous New York Catechism). All of this “evidence” you offer in the way of quotes is meaningless. “Proof-text, without context, is simply pretext” my friend, and when you provide a fabricated quote, from a made up source, then you have lost any hope of credibility in my eyes. I have no problem with dialogue, but I will not converse with someone who refuses to speak in verifiable fact, choosing instead to use lies and fabrications to further a personal agenda.
The Roman Catholic Church has been constantly attack, your church is gulity for attacking the RCC many times, if you think Catholics have never been persecuted or attacked or bashed, then you really need to open not only your phsyical eyes but your spiritual eyes. and far as the SDA being the remnant church that is a matter of opinion or in some cases self- deluded.
The SDA church is the only church that fits the remnant church of Revelation 12. We base our teaching on the Bible only.
the SDA is not the remnant church. and you guys base your teaching and understanding of the bible through the interpretation of Ellen G white. Even the Seventh-day adventist who has never even heard of Ellen G white still seems to have similiar understandings of the bible as EGW. but I suppose it’s really difficult to seperate the SDA from Ellen G White kinda like it’s much more difficult for an adventist to miss saturday sabbath then to have an abortion. I find it quite interesting that alot of these weird ( for lack of a better word) seem have always have their little prophets or in this case prophetess
You got it the wrong way round. Ellen G White’s writings points us back to the Bible. Her books don’t contain anything that adds to the Bible. Infact they are separate from the Bible. There were plenty of prophets in the OT that did not write any Scripture. Nathan and Gad for example and Philip’s daughters were all prophets but didn’t write a part of the Bible.
I’m sorry that’s too funny. Ellen White contraditcts the Bible so often it’s unreal.
I predict a long, sustained silence from daro2096 on this question. I just did a fair amount of googling on this topic and this book does not seem to exist. Funny that every anti-Catholic cites this book with no page # (BTW, a citation requires a p(name removed by moderator)oint; you have to tell the reader exactly where in the work to find the quote) and it seems like NO ONE can find a physical copy of it. Plus, it is always the same two quotes cited over and over and over on the Internet: “The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth…” and “I must tell my sins to the priest…” Wouldn’t you think a book that’s as voluminous sounding as a Catechism would have more than two quotes from it across the entire Internet?
I suppose your right, Ellen G White does point the seventh day adventist back to the bible from her interpretation.
Noah knew about the clean and unclean meats laws.
amazon.com/Catechism-Catholic-Church-U-S/dp/0385479670I predict a long, sustained silence from daro2096 on this question. I just did a fair amount of googling on this topic and this book does not seem to exist. Funny that every anti-Catholic cites this book with no page # (BTW, a citation requires a p(name removed by moderator)oint; you have to tell the reader exactly where in the work to find the quote) and it seems like NO ONE can find a physical copy of it. Plus, it is always the same two quotes cited over and over and over on the Internet: “The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth…” and “I must tell my sins to the priest…” Wouldn’t you think a book that’s as voluminous sounding as a Catechism would have more than two quotes from it across the entire Internet?
It sounds like no one can find this thing. No ISBN. Nothing in the Library of Congress. Hmm, you’d think a book supposedly representing the official doctrine of the Catholic Church wouldn’t be so hard for Catholics to locate.
How about it Daro? Where can we see a copy of this alleged Catholic source? If it says what you say it says, I’m ready to concede you’ve got us on this one. Because I, like all Catholics, am pretty horrified by that quote. In fact, it’s totally repugnant to my faith. So, show me where my church teaches that and I’d be happy to consider the possibility that I’m in the wrong church.
What you posted is a link to the “compact” catechism…
This is not the “New York Catechism”.
Is it possible that is an misunderstanding of what the title “Vicar of Christ” means?I predict a long, sustained silence from daro2096 on this question. I just did a fair amount of googling on this topic and this book does not seem to exist. Funny that every anti-Catholic cites this book with no page # (BTW, a citation requires a p(name removed by moderator)oint; you have to tell the reader exactly where in the work to find the quote) and it seems like NO ONE can find a physical copy of it. Plus, it is always the same two quotes cited over and over and over on the Internet: “The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth…” and “I must tell my sins to the priest…” Wouldn’t you think a book that’s as voluminous sounding as a Catechism would have more than two quotes from it across the entire Internet?
It sounds like no one can find this thing. No ISBN. Nothing in the Library of Congress. Hmm, you’d think a book supposedly representing the official doctrine of the Catholic Church wouldn’t be so hard for Catholics to locate.
How about it Daro? Where can we see a copy of this alleged Catholic source? If it says what you say it says, I’m ready to concede you’ve got us on this one. Because I, like all Catholics, am pretty horrified by that quote. In fact, it’s totally repugnant to my faith. So, show me where my church teaches that and I’d be happy to consider the possibility that I’m in the wrong church.
Not even close. That’s the actual Catechism of the Catholic Church (well, the compact version). We all have that book (either the compact or full one).
This is untrue. St Ignatius if Antioch, writing around the year 110, wrote “[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things * have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death” (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).
Yes he knew about clean and unclean meats probably for sacrificial purposes. You would have to have more of the sacraficial animals. But here it says specificlly that they were to eat all meat. Every creature that is alive. There is nothing to indicate that the dietary restrictions given to Israel were prestent at the time of Noah.
Agreed.