Down With Sex

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777:
Just the same, if sex in of marriage didn’t exist, there’d be no sex out of marriage, and no evil to that effect. So destroy the source, and you destroy the evil, that sort of thing. So DOWN WITH ALL SEX!! In or out of marriage. DEATH TO SEX!!
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been there, done that, heresy of the Manichees, Augustine fell prey to out out of guilt for his misspent youth before he got born again.
 
777, if you don’t consumate your marriage, it’s not a real marriage. You’d have to have sex with your wife.

And, God told us to be fruitful and multiply… you can only do that through sex, man.
 
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777:
Did it say how?
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Hmmmm. Maybe you are really a closet supporter of human cloning then? Man, you sure do come up with some doozies. You are a nice break from the intellectual theologian wannabes that I’ve been jousting with on some other threads though! 😃

Maybe with you swearing off sex, you should go to a seminary and then into the priesthood! :whacky:

Peace,

Gordon
 
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777, if you don’t consumate your marriage, it’s not a real marriage. You’d have to have sex with your wife.

And, God told us to be fruitful and multiply… you can only do that through sex, man.
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Even if me and/or my wife were impotent? There have been couples that have been unable to have a child, especially if the woman is unable to have children. That sort of thing.
 
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777:
Just the same, if sex in of marriage didn’t exist, there’d be no sex out of marriage, and no evil to that effect. So destroy the source, and you destroy the evil, that sort of thing. So DOWN WITH ALL SEX!! In or out of marriage. DEATH TO SEX!!
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Sex is a means of sacramental grace within marriage.
 
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trailblazer:
Dear 777,

You need some spiritual counseling from a schooled theologian. Perhaps, you have the best of intentions, but eliminating sex is against the teachings of God and Church. It is a terrible heresy. Please get some counsel!

Love & peace in Christ,
Bob
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How can getting rid of naked sex be against the teachings of our heavenly father and the church? Besides, what’s so important 'bout nudity in sex?
 
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777:
Even if me and/or my wife were impotent? There have been couples that have been unable to have a child, especially if the woman is unable to have children. That sort of thing.
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Impotence and infertility are two different things.
Think a melted popscicle vs. a fat-free sugar-free popscicle.

Besides sex rocks, makes two flesh in to one and makes babies! That’s one heck of a deal.
 
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Trelow:
Impotence and infertility are two different things.
Think a melted popscicle vs. a fat-free sugar-free popscicle.

Besides sex rocks, makes two flesh in to one and makes babies! That’s one heck of a deal.
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It’d be one heck of a deal if there was no nudity it that @ all.
 
So I am just one of the ignorant who doesn’t get your point. How does sex relate to you and your experiences? Was it bad? Did someone cheat on you? Are you married? Do you have a poor body image? What’s going on I am sure someone somewhere within this group has been there and done that. Be more specific.
 
Number one - No sex = no children, which means say goodbye to human race.

Number two - now this ofcourse is my personal opinion. Sex is great. Between two marriaged people you bring forth life, you experience an intimacy that is profound - and guess what it feels really good.

I would really consider some spiritual direction if you really are serious about your statements. Some people are raised with a very negitive attitude toward sex - that it’s dirty and immoral.

But sex within marriage is a wonderful gift. Anything can become an occasion of sin. Let’s just get rid of all money so people won’t steal it, or kill people to get it. Ya can’t do that.

There will be sin in this world because we are not perfected as we will be in heaven. That’s just the way it is.
 
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777:
How and why?
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Well God did make Adam and Eve naked, and did tell them before the fall to be fruitfull and multiply. And it didn’t take the fact that Adam and Eve were naked to fall but a piece of fruit. Interesting maybe it isn’t sex that is evil but rather disobeying God that is evil.
 
Why do I get the feeling that 777 exists mainly to wind people up? Troll perhaps?
 
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chb03c:
Well God did make Adam and Eve naked, and did tell them before the fall to be fruitfull and multiply. And it didn’t take the fact that Adam and Eve were naked to fall but a piece of fruit. Interesting maybe it isn’t sex that is evil but rather disobeying God that is evil.
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So it was Adam & Eve that started the trend.
 
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777:
So it was Adam & Eve that started the trend.
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your missing the point. God made them naked therefore being naked is not a sin unless you have bad intentions.
 
again and again catholics insist that sex is tied to reproduction. It isn’t, at least not in our minds. The desire to have sex is not the desire to reproduce. But talking as if it were is a neat way of de-sexualising sex, turning it into something pure and functional. But couples do not have sex to reproduce, they have it because they want to, reproduction is the result, not the the stimuli, so how can reproduction be an inseparable part of intimacy if it’s the last thing going through (normal) peoples minds - and even religiouse prudes minds if they were being honest? And how can an end result make something clean that would otherwise be regarded as sin (if reproduction was not the result)? The arousal is the same - some measure of objectification of the other in the mind is still required for arousal to even be possible… even if in the case of marriage it is accompanied by an appreciation of the whole person…
 
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cynic:
again and again catholics insist that sex is tied to reproduction. It isn’t, at least not in our minds.
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It is tied to reproduction, why do you think when a man and a women have sex a child is formed in the womb.
The desire to have sex is not the desire to reproduce. But talking as if it were is a neat way of de-sexualising sex, turning it into something pure and functional. But couples do not have sex to reproduce, they have it because they want to, reproduction is the result, not the the stimuli, so how can reproduction be an inseparable part of intimacy if it’s the last thing going through (normal) peoples minds - and even religiouse prudes minds if they were being honest? And how can an end result make something clean that would otherwise be regarded as sin (if reproduction was not the result)? The arousal is the same - some measure of objectification of the other in the mind is still required for arousal to even be possible… even if in the case of marriage it is accompanied by an appreciation of the whole person…
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So what you are saying is we should stop thinking about sex as a means to repoduction, and rather start looking at it as a way to giving into our desires. How weak minded and Hearted are you? You actually think God would want you to think to look at sex, a means in which he brings life into this world, as a simple selfish desire. no wonder protestants like to contracept.
 
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chb03c:
and rather start looking at it as a way to giving into our desires. How weak minded and Hearted are you? You actually think God would want you to think to look at sex, a means in which he brings life into this world, as a simple selfish desire. no wonder protestants like to contracept.
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that’s exactly what it is - giving in to desire and a primitive form of intimacy while we’re on the earth. Believing what you do - that it is only justified through it’s reproductive function - is hardly different than believing sex is evil. What is neccesarily wrong with giving into our desires? How can you on one hand describe such desires as fundamently selfish (so what if they are), while on the other acknowledge that is is neccessary to have such desires for reproduction. Sex is not a ‘means’ and many couples - catholic or otherwise’ - might be quite insulted by this description, becaues it turns something most of us weak minded people like for it’s own sake, into a mere means to an end (even if it’s sugared up with the lip service to unity). We like our spouses - it isn’t always about the worship of God. Why should it be?

If pleasure is wrong then you need to be honest and just come right out and say it. Contraception isn’t the point - i just hate this attitude- that marriage exist soley for a function, not for us, and that we in turn exist for the sole function of glorifying our creator - in everything, nothing is good on it’s own. ‘We’ become the means to an end - our moments on the earth pointless if not always for a goal. It’s repressed, holier than thou stuff, and yeah those are words liberals use…
 
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