Due to so much confusion in the Catholic Church, my friends have joined the SSPX group

[Paulfdesouza]

Due to so much confusion in the Catholic Church, my friends have joined the SSPX group.
(Society of Saint Pius X)
Could they be deemed as Non Catholics who are not in communion with the Catholic church or are they still Catholics, who are still following the Traditional Latin Rite of the Mass and thus not in disobedience to the mother church.

 

[MiserereMeiDei]

Could they be deemed as Non Catholics who are not in communion with the Catholic church

No.

are they still Catholics, who are still following the Traditional Latin Rite of the Mass

Yes.

not in disobedience to the mother church.

Correct.

 

[poche]

i think you should be gracious and remember that Jesus promised Peter that the gates of Hell would not prevail, and also that He would be with us until the end of time.

 

[Paulfdesouza]

They have absolutely stopped coming to the Catholic Church, and have stopped their kids from attending Cathichism, and there is no SSPX church here, they have priest coming from abroad and celebrate Mass at a residential apartment

 

[MiserereMeiDei]

They have absolutely stopped coming to the Catholic Church

Impossible, since SSPX are Catholics.

and have stopped their kids from attending Cathichism

Because they are receiving their catechism where they are at or at home. This is perfectly fine.

and there is no SSPX church here, they have priest coming from abroad and celebrate Mass at a residential apartment

That’s perfectly fine. Not all masses take place in chapels and cathedrals.

 

[Paulfdesouza]

The SSPX group, believe that the seat of Saint Peter is vacant, and they do not agree with the changes after Vatican II.
There’s been a history of excommunications by Saint John Paul II, and Pope Benedict XVI and Pope Francis gave them some leeway, however there are issues of disagreement, and our parish priest has informed me that it’s not right for me to attend SSPX Mass.

 

[Fauken]

The SSPX group, believe that the seat of Saint Peter is vacant

No they do not.

 

[MiserereMeiDei]

The SSPX group, believe that the seat of Saint Peter is vacant

Either they aren’t SSPX or your information is wrong. SSPX is not sedevacantist.

and they do not agree with the changes after Vatican II.

Whatever their stance on liturgical changes they are not outside the church if they are SSPX.

There’s been a history of excommunications by…

Those excommunications were lifted and only applied to the bishops consecrated by Abp. Lefebvre.

however there are issues of disagreement

But none that put them outside the Church

and our parish priest has informed me that it’s not right for me to attend SSPX Mass

Your parish priest is incorrect, assuming they are SSPX and not some other group such as SSPV.

 

[Paulfdesouza]

I had been for an SSPX Traditional Latin Mass as I was unaware of the group, however the priest there said to the whole group to never attend the Novos Ordo Mass as there is liturgical abuse happening, prayers have been changed and some prayers deleted as well, he said think you are on an island and thus attend only the SSPX Mass when it happens once a month i.e. on a Friday or Saturday.

 

[Paulfdesouza]

Definitely SSPX

 

[MiserereMeiDei]

however the priest there said to the whole group to never attend the Novos Ordo Mass as there is liturgical abuse happening,

It does happen. Even people who attend the Novus ordo missae will admit that.

prayers have been changed and some prayers deleted as well

This is also true. That’s a perfectly apt description of the mass of Paul VI.

he said think you are on an island thus attend only the SSPX Mass when it happens once a month i.e. on a Friday or Saturday.

What does that mean?

 

[Fauken]

What does that mean?

This sounds increasingly more like a sedevacantist priest and not an SSPX one. SSPX priests don’t celebrate Masses in an apartment. But I have heard sedevacantist ones who travel across the country and celebrate Mass in someone’s house.

 

[MiserereMeiDei]

Okay. I thought they might still travel around a bit like they did originally.

 

[Paulfdesouza]

I live in a Islamic country and though we have the largest parish in the world, there are only 2 Catholic churches here, the SSPX priests come from abroad, hence celebrate Mass only once a month and even that’s uncertain at times, perhaps after 2 months, what the SSPX priest meant was in the interim period deem oneself to be marooned on a island and don’t go for the Novus Ordo Mass, rather on days of obligation, just spend time in prayer, and do good works of charity, to compensate missing Mass

 

[Aquinas11]

however the priest there said to the whole group to

you attended?

 

[TheMortenBay]

Just because the SSPX is well established where you live doesn’t make one a Sedevacantist for celebrating Mass privately. It all depends on the size of the apostolate. The amount of money to buy and run a church is quite formidable to many startup apostolates.

 

[twf]

If he’s encouraging Catholics to miss their Sunday obligation, to avoid attending an OF Mass, that’s not OK.

 

[Aquinas11]

perhaps after 2 months, what the SSPX priest meant was

ok so we admit we’re speculating…

 

[Paulfdesouza]

I had been for the initial 1st Mass that the prayer group leader introduced us to, at the time I had no idea it was an SSPX priest, having never heard of them, I was totally ignorant, about this group and their history, they also had a 1st Holy Communion that day, and the priest heard confessions, I too did my confession.

 

[bookshelf]

I had been for an SSPX Traditional Latin Mass as I was unaware of the group, however the priest there said to the whole group to never attend the Novos Ordo Mass as there is liturgical abuse happening, prayers have been changed and some prayers deleted as well, he said think you are on an island and thus attend only the SSPX Mass when it happens once a month i.e. on a Friday or Saturday.

It does happen. Even people who attend the Novus ordo missae will admit that.

Here is an example of a recent post, about a concerned Catholic who attends the Novus Ordo Mass, where the Priest would not give to the individual and his sister the Holy Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling.

Priest didn't let me receive communion on the tongue Liturgy and Sacraments

So there is some priest who I served mass with today never was at this church before. So me and my sister kneel to receive communion the priest says get up. I do and he tells my sister to take it from the cibororum like its candy. Then he tells me to do it. I say I would like it in the tougnue the priest walks away from me and ignores me for the rest of the mass and puts everything back without purifying it with the water. I was shocked never in my life have I met a priest that was that disresp…

The mere mention of the occurrence of laxity in Novus Ordo Masses, versus Tridentine Masses, got my comment flagged and removed.

There are valid reasons as to why Catholics attend Tridentine Masses. It would be prudent to study these reasons, and learn about their effects.