Due to so much confusion in the Catholic Church, my friends have joined the SSPX group

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TheMortenBay said:
Just because the SSPX is well established where you live doesn’t make one a Sedevacantist for celebrating Mass privately.
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I have no idea how well the SSPX is established where I live. In fact, if I was the betting type, I’d wager that the closest SSPX Mass to me is an hour away, as it’s the only one I’m aware of. It could be SSPX, but from what I’ve heard about Masses celebrated by sedevacantist groups, it sounds like those as well. Hence why I said “sounds”.
 
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Paulfdesouza said:
Due to so much confusion in the Catholic Church, my friends have joined the SSPX group.
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Understandable given that the root of the confusion in Catholic Church is based on same doctrine of Vatican II (Religious Liberty) that SSPX and Vatican differ in their interpretation - if anyone has the freedom to choose any religion they want, why are we surprised that Pachamama Idols are being welcomed into Catholic Churches?
 
Here where the SSPX offer the TLM in the apartment used to have about 7-10 persons attending, however our crowd going to there for the 1st time were about 12 adults including my wife her sister and myself, + my 2 kids, after that my family never attended Mass there.
I am not certain if the Bishop of our Vicariate, has given approval or indeed if his approval was ever sought.
So I could with all certainty say that the total number of people could not be more than 20, having said that, I am certain the leader of the group I went with, will most certainly influence many others and disuade them from attending Novus Ordo Mass at the local Catholic church, as she is of the opinion that all those who attend the Novos Ordo Mass are being led to perdition.
 
Where does it specifically say that Catholic can attend a Mass offered by the SSPX group
 
No they are definitely SSPX, of this I am 200,% certain, no confusion in my mind in this regard.
 
I specifically went to a Latin mass afterward because I knew I would be able to receive communion the way I wanted.
 
HomeschoolDad said:
Which SSPX sacraments would you call illicit?
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Primary Holy Orders. And marriage, assuming they don’t ask for faculties from the local bishop. Tacit approval is not definitive, like the faculties Pope Francis gave them for confession and marriage (when approved by the local bishop).
 
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The above mentioned faculties given by Pope Francis was specifically only for during the year of Mercy in 2016.

Concessions

It was announced that all priests (during the Jubilee year – ending 20 November 2016) would be allowed in the [Sacrament of Penance] to remove censures for [abortion] which outside North America is reserved to bishops and certain priests who are given such mandate by their bishop.

By the same letter, Pope Francis also granted permission for priests of the [Society of Saint Pius X (Society_of_Saint_Pius_X) to validly confer absolution, while under normal circumstances they do not possess the jurisdiction needed to confer this sacrament.
 
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Hmm, I thought they were part of the confusion. Just read your catechism-the Catholic faith is spelled out pretty well there. All else is basically human opinion.
 
Paulfdesouza said:
The above mentioned facilities given by Pope Francis was specifically only for during the year of Mercy in 2016.
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No, it specifically says it extends “beyond” 2016 “until further provisions are made” and they haven’t, thus it continues on through today
For the Jubilee Year I had also granted that those faithful who, for various reasons, attend churches officiated by the priests of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, can validly and licitly receive the sacramental absolution of their sins. For the pastoral benefit of these faithful, and trusting in the good will of their priests to strive with God’s help for the recovery of full communion with the Catholic Church, I have personally decided to extend this faculty beyond the Jubilee Year, until further provisions are made, lest anyone ever be deprived of the sacramental sign of reconciliation through the Church’s pardon."
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I believe marriage is regarded as invalid if not done with permission.

Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what I thought.
 
Or possibly claim to be part of SSPX but other SSPX would disagree?
 
Just because Christ made that Promise doesnt mean what happening now is what God wants to have happen. We have a faith and there are people in that faith. The faith is perfect, but the leaders of that faith have made terrible errors and they will do so in the future.

We have the responsibility to make it clear we understand those errors that we will not accept those errors. To sit by and say nothing is a sin of omission.
 
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