F
Faith1960
Guest
Did anyone see the interview with Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar on Wednesday? What did you think about what they had to say?
Two of the victims speak out tonight.
Two of the victims speak out tonight.
- Status
7
7_Sorrows
Guest
I have seen snippets on the internet and heard a few things on the radio.
I am glad they gave the interview and aren’t hiding from the media.
I feel sorry for the daughters who were victimized because it seems they have been revictimized.
I think it was Harpo Studios that notified the authorities when they got a tip before the Duggars were to appear on Oprah. Their appearance was then cancelled.
I can’t comment too much on the interview itself because I didn’t watch the whole interview.
I am glad they gave the interview and aren’t hiding from the media.
I feel sorry for the daughters who were victimized because it seems they have been revictimized.
I think it was Harpo Studios that notified the authorities when they got a tip before the Duggars were to appear on Oprah. Their appearance was then cancelled.
I can’t comment too much on the interview itself because I didn’t watch the whole interview.
F
Faith1960
Guest
Two of the girls will be interviwed tonight on Fox. 8:00 Central.
M
Memaw
Guest
I admire them and what they did for their son and other siblings was the right thing to do. It worked. It’s those who are judging the whole thing that are way off base. Many times the ‘counseling’ done by professionals never works. There’s did. As a society we seem to condone all kinds of wrong doings, such as abortion, divorce and remarriage, pornography, sex with anyone, anytime, any way, homosexuality. Done by ADULTS. Yet we can’t seem to forgive a young boy who made bad mistakes as a youth and was sorry, asked forgiveness and has grown up to be a wonderful husband and father, respectful person and really decent man. We will trash his family expose his sisters to public shame. Not caring who or how we hurt them doing so. I only hope when the day comes and we ask God for forgiveness, He is as merciful to us as He is to the Duggars. God Bless, Memaw
M
MaryT777
Guest
I was horrified at what seemed to be Mr. Duggar minimizing the molestation done by his son. It was like it was really just no big deal, no different than stealing a cookie from the cookie jar in my opinion.
Mary.
Mary.
Mary_Gail_36
New member
I only saw about 30 seconds, and I just saw one of the sisters (I think Jessa or Jill) and she was sobbing.
I didn’t want to watch.
I didn’t want to watch.
B
BlueEyedLady
Guest
I feel bad for Josh, who didn’t get the help he deserved and for his sister’s who were essentially handed over to be victims. My anger is directed towards Jim Bob. Now there’s a man who makes my blood run cold. I’m glad that he has been exposed, and I hope that this incident makes people more wary of such controlling and insular people in the future.
F
Faith1960
Guest
I think they did what they thought was best. They took him to a couseling center, albeit not a secular one, they took him to the police, they punished him, set up safeguards in their home etc. I just hope he doesnt do it again.
F
Faith1960
Guest
She wasnt sobbing about what Josh did, she was sobbing about how the media and tabloids are printing these stories.
P
punisherthunder
Guest
Pedophiliac incest is a pretty damning condition. Hope the son gets therapy.
C
Convert1
Guest
As a victim of abuse, I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, I admire the strength it took to go before the media and discuss such a horrendous situation. On the other, the sensationalism of it all seems wrong to me. We all deal with things differently, I guess.
F
Faith1960
Guest
He already got counseling. Lots of people disagree with the type of counseling he got since it was handled by a church group or somethibg rather than secular counseling.
You do know that many secular counselors are accepting of homosexuality, transgenderism etc., right?
F
Faith1960
Guest
Maybe they felt they had no choice but to go to the media. People are talking and making stuff up, and they probably wanted to set the record straight.
Im surprised more people arent on them about how Jim Bob harped about Josh’s juvenile records being opened up to the public. That was just wrong but even though he harped on it I can see why he’s so mad.
D
Dwyer
Guest
News Media firestorm over Baptist family with 15 year old son who inappropriately touched his sisters and a baby sitter.
News Media not upset with Pete Townsend; accused rapist movie directors Roman Polanski and accused child sexual abuser Woody Allen; the late child molester Michael Jackson; or all the rapists and criminals in the ranks of the NFL.
News Media not upset with Pete Townsend; accused rapist movie directors Roman Polanski and accused child sexual abuser Woody Allen; the late child molester Michael Jackson; or all the rapists and criminals in the ranks of the NFL.
F
Faith1960
Guest
Go figure. Michelle did mention several times that she believes the media has an agenda against their family and its probably true. People dont like them because of their strict Christian values and the way they do things. I think having 19 kids is wierd, but they fascinate me.News Media firestorm over Baptist family with 15 year old son who inappropriately touched his sisters and a baby sitter.
News Media not upset with Pete Townsend; accused rapist movie directors Roman Polanski and accused child sexual abuser Woody Allen; the late child molester Michael Jackson; or all the rapists and criminals in the ranks of the NFL.
M
Memaw
Guest
I would trust a Christian counseling , (working with GOD), way over a secular counseling. (They don’t seem to work all that great anyway.) It worked for Josh, now if people will just stop making victims of the Duggars and let them get on with their life, Josh and his family too. That happened many years ago, they have moved on very nicely and live a very Christian life. Which is more than we can say about to many in our society. When ADULTS condone abortion, homosexuality, sex with anyone they want, even when married to someone else, pornography, trash on TV, etc,etc and etc. Who are we to judge a young boy for making bad judgements and repenting and asking forgiveness for them. And making a GOOD life for himself. The law was supposed to protect him from all this media trashing but the law failed this young man and his family. And many are jumping on the band wagon. It is unfair for those who were molested by someone to take it out on Josh. Forgiveness brings a lot of peace. The Duggars have handled this very well. They helped their son while safeguarding the other children. I give them a lot of credit on how they did that. How about we just leave them alone so they can get on with their life in peace. God Bless, Memaw
T
ToeInTheWater
Guest
First of all: two wrongs do NOT make a right and just because the “left” has ignored or minimized sexual abuse by their media darlings, does NOT make it moral for the “right” to do the same thing. Maybe it is in the land of “realpolitik” but I’m not a politician and I will call things as I see them regardless of who does it.
I have been critical of the way the Duggars handled this, and the parents’ interview didn’t change my mind that much. A lot of their defense seemed to be based on semantics and legalism; that they did nothing wrong by trying to handle the situation “in-house” because “parent’s aren’t mandated reporters”, that Michelle was not a hypocrite for making statements implying transgendered people could be pedophiles because “only adults are pedophiles and Josh wasn’t an adult”, etc.
It was also disturbing how Jim Bob stated he had discussed the situation with friends and been told what Josh did was normal, common behavior for adolescents, and even that some of them had worse things happen in their families. (Though this may actually be true considering how Bill Gothard himself has a history of sexual misconduct, as does the “counselor” Josh was sent to.)
It seems he and Michelle only really took it seriously when the youngest daughter at the time was attacked by Josh, I suppose I should at least give them credit for realizing that no, a 15 year old “fondling” a 5 year old could NOT be explained away by mere adolescent curiosity, since some of their defenders don’t seem to even accept that.
I also found it hard to believe that the parents really were as shocked at the story going public as they claimed, considering that Jim Bob himself apparently discussed the situation with people outside the family, and the police investigation in 2006 came about because SOMEONE tipped off Oprah. Not to mention the rumors on sites such as Free Jinger.org. But obviously, they have to claim that in order to justify putting their family on Reality TV in the first place.
All this being said, I actually do think they were being sincere when they stated that the story going public hurt the girls more than the initial events. Now mind you, “sincere” is not the same as “correct”, but I think they believe this and want to believe it. And it seems the daughters who have come forward are in agreement as well. But I don’t want to make any pronouncements about them until I actually see more of the interview.
I have been critical of the way the Duggars handled this, and the parents’ interview didn’t change my mind that much. A lot of their defense seemed to be based on semantics and legalism; that they did nothing wrong by trying to handle the situation “in-house” because “parent’s aren’t mandated reporters”, that Michelle was not a hypocrite for making statements implying transgendered people could be pedophiles because “only adults are pedophiles and Josh wasn’t an adult”, etc.
It was also disturbing how Jim Bob stated he had discussed the situation with friends and been told what Josh did was normal, common behavior for adolescents, and even that some of them had worse things happen in their families. (Though this may actually be true considering how Bill Gothard himself has a history of sexual misconduct, as does the “counselor” Josh was sent to.)
It seems he and Michelle only really took it seriously when the youngest daughter at the time was attacked by Josh, I suppose I should at least give them credit for realizing that no, a 15 year old “fondling” a 5 year old could NOT be explained away by mere adolescent curiosity, since some of their defenders don’t seem to even accept that.
I also found it hard to believe that the parents really were as shocked at the story going public as they claimed, considering that Jim Bob himself apparently discussed the situation with people outside the family, and the police investigation in 2006 came about because SOMEONE tipped off Oprah. Not to mention the rumors on sites such as Free Jinger.org. But obviously, they have to claim that in order to justify putting their family on Reality TV in the first place.
All this being said, I actually do think they were being sincere when they stated that the story going public hurt the girls more than the initial events. Now mind you, “sincere” is not the same as “correct”, but I think they believe this and want to believe it. And it seems the daughters who have come forward are in agreement as well. But I don’t want to make any pronouncements about them until I actually see more of the interview.
B
Ben_Riley
Guest
OK why do you compare “divorce and remarriage, pornography, sex with anyone, anytime, any way, homosexuality. Done by ADULTS”. to the real crime of child molestation? Are this things as bad as hurting a child in that way? (I left Abortion out)
This country doesn’t really care about protecting children look at Woody Allen and Micheal Jackson. The problem is this family looked it’s nose down at everybody. They said we are better then you and God loves us more because we waited till marriage are straight and christian. They would look at me as a infidel who would go to hell yet I have never hurt a child like that so how could they say I wouldn’t get in to heaven? People are just happy to take hypocrites down.
All though the outing of his sisters is despicable you guys are acting like it is worse then the abuse of children.
M
MaryT777
Guest
Yes, it’s their hypocrisy and looking down the nose at others that have got them in the boat they are in. “Woe to you hypocrites.”
T
ToeInTheWater
Guest
Speaking of bible quotes, here are a bunch from the KJV about keeping secrets. (Actually not sure if the Duggars are KJV only-ists but apparently their son-in-law Ben Seewald is per postings on his FB page):
kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Secrets/
kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Secrets/
Now some people interpret these as merely stating that nothing is secret from God, but last I checked God was not hanging out on housetops proclaiming anything.
- Status