"Easter Worshipers"

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Ironically, many that are offended by “Easter Worshipers” were probably complaining about the “CAPE” or “ECO” Catholics the day before.
 
I believe the point Grace was trying to make was that if they had used “Christian” instead of “Easter worshiper” someone would have said : “I can’t believe the MSM didn’t even point out that the attack in Sri Lanka was on the most holy day in all of Christianity. Obviously this is evidence of a left-wing plot.”

I found it quite funny and accurate.
 
Londoner said:
Is this controversy a purely American phenomenon? To my mind “Easter worshippers” means “people who are worshipping on Easter Sunday”. It seems to be obvious that people who are worshipping on Easter Sunday are Christians.
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I think most of the Americans who are annoyed by this are annoyed because (1) it seems to be a calculated, premeditated messaging from the National Democratic Committee or some group like Media Matters, and (2) it’s doubtful the same people would ever say “Yom Kippur worshipers” or “Ramadan worshipers.”

I don’t think it’s something to get bent out of shape on, but I do find it very annoying. Personally, what concerns me the most is idea that someone is possibly sitting in an office and telling all the Democratic politicians & their allies to use the specific phrase and/or not to use the name “Christian(s).”

God Bless
 
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phil19034 said:
I don’t think it’s something to get bent out of shape on, but I do find it very annoying. Personally, what concerns me the most is idea that someone is possibly sitting in an office and telling all the Democratic politicians & their allies to use the specific phrase and/or not use “Christians.”
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I had no problem with it and it’s not a new phrase; but then seeing how it was some political directive does suggest a deliberate avoidance of “Christian.” I guess they just want to be careful to avoid instigating anti-Islam vigilantism.
 
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Neithan said:
I had no problem with it and it’s not a new phrase; but then seeing how it was some political directive does suggest a deliberate avoidance of “Christian.” I guess they just want to be careful to avoid instigating anti-Islam vigilantism.
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Yeah, I’m not bothered by the phrase “Easter worshipers” itself. I’m bothered (NOT “outraged”) by the possibility that it was a political directive, esp when they their reaction to New Zealand was completely the opposite.

I find these kinds of political directives regarding language (regardless of motive) to be damaging in the long run.
 
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jrgmercado said:
I believe the point Grace was trying to make was that if they had used “Christian” instead of “Easter worshiper” someone would have said : “I can’t believe the MSM didn’t even point out that the attack in Sri Lanka was on the most holy day in all of Christianity. Obviously this is evidence of a left-wing plot.”
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Grace was trying infer that those who question the co-ordinated use of the unwieldy and confected term ‘Easter Worshippers’ are simply seeking offense. When someone shifts from discussing an issue to negatively characterising people who hold a different point of view, it’s an ad hominem attack. Not uncommon and not intellectually honest. Like most issues, there is room here for reasonable disagreement.
 
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Yes well very very good point here in New Zealand we held vigils in our churches we raised fund’s for them some of us women even wore headscarves in support of them and we allowed them to use our churches while they didn’t have the use of there mosques we prayed with them and for them and we stood United. Now to see that these bombings in Sri Lanka was done by Islamic extremists is like a huge slap in the face.
It has destroyed the unity we had with them not only that but the Islamic community kept saying repeatedly it’s not fair we wouldn’t hurt anyone we are a peaceful religion we believe in the same God as you. I do not believe not all of them are peacefull I also believe we should not have so much hate in this world yes we have different religions but should it really matter at the end of the day there is only one God.
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We have to weigh the full picture of things though. Remember that in other parts of the world like Indonesia and North Africa where major Christian celebrations have been attacked in previous years, the Muslim community quietly and routinely organise guards around the Churches.

There was a story about the peaceful nature of Easter worship in Jakarta this year which noted this, “In addition to the police, personnel from GP Ansor, the youth wing of the largest Muslim organization Nahdlatul Ulama, also helped secure several churches in Jakarta.”

This was a photo taken of Muslims guarding a Catholic Mass in Eygpt a few Easters ago.
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We have to remember that they aren’t all extremist nuts.
 
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Yes, but who are those Muslims on guard at churches guarding against? They (the guarding Muslims) obviously think that there are enough bad Muslims who are capable, or even likely, to commit violence on Christian at worship.
 
Y’all worry about this nonsense while your President wants to ruin my healthcare.
 
Loud-living-dogma said:
Yes, but who are those Muslims on guard at churches guarding against? They (the guarding Muslims) obviously think that there are enough bad Muslims who are capable, or even likely, to commit violence on Christian at worship.
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And? We have whole police forces, military, Secret Service and so on predicated around the fact that even our fellow Christians may wish us ill and try to do us harm, no?
 
Not specifically Christians, no. Something is very wrong in global Islam and we don’t need to practice apologetics on their behalf (God knows we have our own problems in the global Church). Check out Islamic forums. Yes the extremists are a minority but there are a lot of them; also they kill each other as much as anyone else.
 
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Do we know that this is actually what is happening? As far as I know, the two people who used the phrase were Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, both of whom are themselves Christians. I am inclined to suspect that people are seeing a conspiracy where one doesn’t exist.

Also I’d take into consideration the fact that the USA is a country where almost three quarters of people are Christians (and, additionally, an overwhelming majority of the roughly 20 percent of Americans who report no religion are culturally Christian and will be familiar with major festivals such as Easter). There can therefore be almost no people in America who would not immediately understand that Easter is a Christian festival and that people worshipping at Easter would be Christians.
 
It’s not a conspiracy, but either a remarkable coincidence, or there was an email suggesting the phrase to Democrats and affiliates for some reason, or just an example that was copied.
 
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Londoner said:
Do we know that this is actually what is happening? As far as I know, the two people who used the phrase were Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, both of whom are themselves Christians. I am inclined to suspect that people are seeing a conspiracy where one doesn’t exist.
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It was more than just Hillary & Obama.

I posted earlier in this thread a screen shot from twitter of 8 people (including Hillary & Obama) who used that exact same phrase all around the same time that day.

While we don’t know for sure, the Democrats are VERY GOOD at controlling their narrative and the Democrats are very good at falling in line when it comes to communication. It’s one of their party’s greatest organizational strengths.

So it would not surprise me at all to learn that someone sent an email to all the Democrats in Congress, party leaders, and their close allies instructing them to use phrases like “Easter worshipers” instead of Christians in order to avoid alarming the non-Christian millennials in their base (esp the “new atheist” millennials).

BTW - it’s not a conspiracy. It’s most likely simply a calculated communication plan/strategy . An annoying one and a potentially damaging one in the long run. But I would NOT call it a conspiracy.

But it’s just like how Obama would use the phrase “freedom of worship” instead of “freedom of religion” in order to downplay the effects his administration was having on the religious freedom of Americans, esp Catholics. Again, not a conspiracy- but a communication strategy.

God Bless
 
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Getreligion.org has interesting take on this.

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Political style question for tense times: What do you call people killed in church on Easter? — GetReligion

I have been covering the religion beat, to one degree or another, for 40 years and I have never heard “Easter worshippers” used as a replacement for the word “Christians.” Is this a reference to people who worship ON Easter or, well, people who worship Easter? As an Eastern Orthodox Christian, I
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Their GUESS as to why some Democrats like Hillary & Obama chose to use “Easter worshipers” might be for multiple reasons, and that at least two reasons might be:
  1. to avoid people thinking they were all evangelical Protestants who died, since the name “Christian” seems to to imply evangelical Protestant to many
  2. it may have also been distance their tweets from people line VP Mike Pence
I also personally think that #2 is a very possible reason because the Democrats have a growing number of non-Christians (esp among millennials).

I’m sure they wanted to distance themselves from anything Evanglicals like VP Mike Pence would say.
 
What’s ironic about the left’s schoolgirl crush on Islam is that radical Islamists vehemently abhor the left’s favorite causes and will happily slaughter every last leftist, given the opportunity.
 
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