"Easter Worshipers"

[prayerrider]

Pretty blatant example, imo. “Worshipper” could be anything and the way it’s being used in the media now is covertly denigrating. After all, modern rational humanist materialists don’t worship anything except technology and their own smug conviction of intellectual superiority.

 

[prayerrider]

Anyone with any real understanding of the power of language can see exactly what’s going on with this continued use of the term “worshipper.” It’s a subtle put-down and in it’s vagueness, it’s covertly de-humanizing or de-personalizing.
The far left policy makers (pretty much most of the leftist leadership anymore) understand the power of such terminology very well indeed, as have many historically recent statist totalitarians.

 

[prayerrider]

there is a lot of anti-Christian and anti-Catholic sentiment while other religions are rarely shown in a negative light. It’s understandable to be upset about it but ultimately useless because it’s not about to change anytime soon.

Sorry, that strikes me as defeatist. If enough Catholics and other Christians wake up and start pushing back, as vocally and methodically as, say, the LGBTetc. ideology pushers have, such change can and will happen.

 

[gracepoole]

Anyone with any real understanding of the power of language can see exactly what’s going on with this continued use of the term “worshipper.”

Ya got me. I’m just a professor of English. No clue about the power of language.

 

[gracepoole]

Yes, you “outrank” me in message board seniority, ha! The amount of time I’ve been on this board has nothing to do with the thread derail that’s happened here. If people discussing this bothers you so much, move on to the next thread.

How fun. Welcome to CAF!

 

[Zach]

It’s not defeatist. It’s realistic. Secular humanism is too ingrained in the institutions I’ve mentioned. But we can push back by voting into office sympathetic candidates.

 

[Finn]

It’s not going to change so there’s no point in getting upset about it.

There is no logic to this. We need to fight for change.

 

[Zach]

Yes fight through the ballot box. But if you think anything is going to change anti-Christian organizations like the BBC forget it.

 

[prayerrider]

But we can push back by voting into office sympathetic candidates.

That’s exactly what I mean. Catholics voting for politicians who consistently support policy and law in opposition to Church teachings is a big part of the problem.

 

[Finn]

Yes fight through the ballot box. But if you think anything is going to change anti-Christian organizations like the BBC forget it.

It going to take a lot more than just voting to drive change. There is a battle going on for hearts, minds & souls. People need to speak up more, not less - the attitude of ‘its not going to change so try not to get upset about it’ is part of the reason we are where we are. It’s defeatist & corrosive.

 

[Zach]

Then we all have to pick our battles. Mine will be something as serious as abortion. If someone else’s is the way something is worded by a far left wing Media conglomerate that is their choice.

 

[Finn]

Abortion is an excellent example: language capture has subverted reality & many who knew better remained silent because they assumed they couldn’t effect change.

 

[Victoria33]

Pretty blatant example, imo. “Worshipper” could be anything and the way it’s being used in the media now is covertly denigrating. After all, modern rational humanist materialists don’t worship anything except technology and their own smug conviction of intellectual superiority.

I totally agree. As if we should dismiss this, we should dismiss this only because it is a bad reflection on these last two candidates of the Democrat party and really, what the Democrat party is today. We should just say “oh, no big deal, there is real Christian persecution going on in the world, I can’t believe we are going to spend time and find fault with this”. Well, excuse me!

 

[prayerrider]

Yep.
The language being used–i.e. “worshippers–” while not physically violent or overtly prejudicial, is part of the persecution nevertheless. The ideologues of the left don’t scheme by accident, and they know how to manipulate public perception via covert manipulation of language. Just look at how use of “phobic” has mushroomed. That’s why I posit using the term “Christophobes” as much as possible.

 

[ShrodingersCat]

Why should she have to have posted defenses of persecuted Catholics on a Catholic forum? We all agree that persecution is terrible. It would make more sense to analyse the posts of people who are complaining about the term “Easter Worshippers” to see where their priorities lie.

 

[Victoria33]

It’s more like those who wish to say this is not a wrong are the ones slapping Christians in the face.

And so, what looks like above, an Anglican bulletin that says “Easter Worshipers” now is used as an example to compare this to today? I’m sure, a specific publication for Christian persons could use such but that is a bit away from the secular world.

 

[Victoria33]

Why should she have to have posted defenses of persecuted Catholics on a Catholic forum? We all agree that persecution is terrible. It would make more sense to analyse the posts of people who are complaining about the term “Easter Worshippers” to see where their priorities lie.

Then, if they are so concerned about Christians, there should be no problem in not wishing to stifle the conversation of other Christians. I remind you, the forum member is talking about this topic possibly constituting a slap in the face to other Christians. That’s a rather serious allegation. I don’t think “oh, well, we all agree persecution is bad covers it”.

Where do I stand, this certainly below, fits the mode of discussing persecution of Christians overseas. Readily available. You are welcome to do a statistical analysis too.

Nicaraguan bishop, a vocal Ortega critic, says he was target of assassination plot Catholic News

And we, the USA, per the article, our embassy told him about it. That’s great. Whether it’s great this news gets out and our embassy did this, I do wonder about that…sometimes, we might show tricks of the trade or secrets out. That’s all I am saying. I hope he got some advise before going public. Nicaraguan bishop, a vocal Ortega critic, says he was target of assassination plot By Ismael Lopez MANAGUA (Reuters) - A Roman Catholic bishop in Nicaragua who has been a sharp critic of the gove…

Nicaraguan bishop, a vocal Ortega critic, says he was target of assassination plot
By Ismael Lopez

MANAGUA (Reuters) - A Roman Catholic bishop in Nicaragua who has been a sharp critic of the government of President Daniel Ortega said he had been the target of an assassination plot last year and that Pope Francis had invited him to relocate to Rome.

The cleric, Monsignor Silvio Baez, revealed details of the plot on Wednesday during a news conference.

 

[prayerrider]

Devastating truth here. In their tweets about the Orlando nightclub shootings, both Obama and Clinton were very specific and gushingly sympathetic about who the victims were. Imagine the storm if they’d simply been referred to as “nightclub patrons.”

Context indeed. Nothing innocuous whatsoever about this use of the term “Easter worshippers.” Very calculated.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

If the media or public figures use “Easter worshippers” in June or later to describe Christians you might have a point. Look at the headlines for other shootings; those that refer to school shootings, synagogue shootings, mosque shootings. The gunman didn’t shoot a school, synagogue, or mosque but the people inside. Those groups could easily say that they are being dehumanized, identified by the building they were in. Even then it would be different if they were attacked on a specific holiday or occasion, like a wedding. Even in a place of worship they would probably be called wedding-goers or something.

And how are you referring to the other victims that day? How does the headline read? Christians and miscellaneous killed in bombings?

Easter worshippers is accurate, it’s specific (it’s less likely to be mixed up with any other attack), it acknowledges the Holy Day and its importance.

 

[OSN]

YHWH_Christ, you were not the only one to catch that. Everyone who is not a fan of those who mad such comments caught it, and understand the meaning and double standards behind it. All we can do is not vote for such people in the future, and hope for the best. Though I do question if Obama and Hilary physically use their mobile devices to make such comments on social media, or is someone doing so on their behalf, saying, Mr, Mrs. Such an event has happened, what do you want posted, and then the person says oh say something like, blah blah blah, and then the person typing does the verbal mess. Because I do not believe that such Democrats are daft in the head. Nor do I believe anyone making such comments are daft in the head, but know full good in well, what they say, and how they say things, makes an impact on society. Politicians may act stupid, and do stupid things, but I do not underestimate their intelligence. If they were truly " stupid " and barely educated, then the entire nation would be up the collective river. They say what they say, on either side of the fence for a reason, for an agenda, and it is up to us the voter, to not be easily manipulated by what they say . An hold them accountable for what they say.