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Why does the Catholic Church still teach that Jesus was killed on a Friday? (Edited)
 
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John123Conner said:
Why does the RCC still perpetrate the lie of Jesus being killed on a Friday?
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A more charitable and less confrontational, agenda-laden approach in your questions would be in order if you actually want people to take you seriously here.

An appropriate question would be, “On what does the Catholic Church base the timing of its liturgical calendar relative to the Passion, Death, and Resurrection of our Lord?”
 
1ke said:
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A more charitable and less confrontational, agenda-laden approach in your questions would be in order if you actually want people to take you seriously here.

An appropriate question would be, “On what does the Catholic Church base the timing of its liturgical calendar relative to the Passion, Death, and Resurrection of our Lord?”
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I’ll pose my questions my way and you may pose yours in your own way. Instead of having me be more “charitable” and “less confrontational” because I don’t beat around the bush and I’m blunt and to the point how bout you just answer the question. That is if you can. Don’t be so prideful this is who and how I am.
 
It is just how we celebrate Jesus death and resurrection. Just how at Christmas we celebrate Jesus birth but he was more likely born in May. Just so you know scripture isn’t the most trustworthy thing when it come to time. Some people think the earth is 6000 thousand years old
 
John123Conner said:
I’ll pose my questions my way and you may pose yours in your own way. Instead of having me be more “charitable” and “less confrontational” because I don’t beat around the bush and I’m blunt and to the point how bout you just answer the question. That is if you can. Don’t be so prideful this is who and how I am.
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Are you serious about the declration of “Christian” in your profile? 🙂

btw: calling 1ke out for ‘being prideful’–seems to me, your the one being prideful (if not rude).

Here’s my questoin that I’d need satisfied, before wasting my time on your ‘inquiry’ (generously stated): Who are you, that anyone should take you as anything other than a mudsling’n troll?
 
John123Conner said:
I’ll pose my questions my way and you may pose yours in your own way. Instead of having me be more “charitable” and “less confrontational” because I don’t beat around the bush and I’m blunt and to the point how bout you just answer the question. That is if you can. Don’t be so prideful this is who and how I am.
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Now I’m curious - is there an answer that could actually satisfy you? This already seems to be a waste of time and thread.

Peace be with you!!!
 
Probably not. He’s another “Christian” who thinks we Catholics are deceived and have never heard “the truth” (which is to say, his personal interpretation of Scripture). But I’ll give it a go:

Short answer: The ancient Jews didn’t reckon time the same way we do. A “day” wasn’t 24 hours, it was any part of a day, so by that math, he was in the tomb “3 days”: Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Not 72 hours, but 3 days nonetheless. Plus, Jesus was crucified at the same time they were slaughtering the lambs for Passover, and it was “the day before the Sabbath”. The Jewish Sabbath is Saturday, hence Jesus was crucified on a Friday. This has been believed and accepted for 2000 years. Suddenly, someone comes along and thinks they’re the first person to notice that Friday to Sunday isn’t 72 hours, and BAM! All of Christendom has been “deceived”. Gosh, Jesus is so lucky you came along and interpreted the correctly for him!:rolleyes:

In Christ,
Ellen
 
Oh, cut him a break, he’s just trying to “save” our heathen souls. We’ve obviously never heard the Gospel or read the bible before! :dts:

😃

In Christ,
Ellen
 
John123Conner said:
I’ll pose my questions my way and you may pose yours in your own way. Instead of having me be more “charitable” and “less confrontational” because I don’t beat around the bush and I’m blunt and to the point how bout you just answer the question. That is if you can. Don’t be so prideful this is who and how I am.
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I would suggest you read the Forum rules regarding charity in posting. Your posts are not in line with those guidelines.
 
ALLGIRLS said:
Oh, cut him a break, he’s just trying to “save” our heathen souls. We’ve obviously never heard the Gospel or read the bible before! :dts:

😃

In Christ,
Ellen
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LOL - You’re right! Why have I been accepting and following 2000 years of authoritative knowledge that leads us back directly to Jesus Christ himself.

I should be following the beliefs of some person who comes on this forum and states his/her personal opinions in such a “Christian” manner

😃
 
John123Conner said:
Why does the Catholic Church still teach that Jesus was killed on a Friday? (Edited)
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We know from Scripture and subsequent writings that Jesus rose from the dead on a Sunday – the first day of the week.The practice of meeting together on the first day of the week for the celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice is indicated in Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2; in Apocalypse 1:10, it is called the Lord’s day. In the Didache (14) the injunction is given: “On the Lord’s Day come together and break bread. And give thanks (offer the Eucharist), after confessing your sins that your sacrifice may be pure”.** St. Ignatius **(Ep. ad Magnes. ix) speaks of Christians as “no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s Day, on which also Our Life rose again”. In the Epistle of Barnabas (xv) we read: “Wherefore, also, we keep the eight day (i.e. the first of the week) with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead”.
newadvent.org/cathen/14335a.htm
We know Jesus told the apostles that after He had been killed, He would rise again on the 3rd day.Matthew 16:21 From that time Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised.

Matthew 20:19 and deliver him to the Gentiles to be mocked and scourged and crucified, and he will be raised on the third day."

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Now, if Jesus rose on the 3rd of those 3 days, then it must have been on the 1st of those 3 days that He died and was buried.
Thus, computing backwards from the day He rose:
3rd day of the 3 days = Sunday, the day He rose
2nd day of the 3 days = Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath
1st day of the 3 days = Friday, the day He died and was buried
 
ALLGIRLS said:
Probably not. He’s another “Christian” who thinks we Catholics are deceived and have never heard “the truth” (which is to say, his personal interpretation of Scripture). But I’ll give it a go:

Short answer: The ancient Jews didn’t reckon time the same way we do. A “day” wasn’t 24 hours, it was any part of a day, so by that math, he was in the tomb “3 days”: Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Not 72 hours, but 3 days nonetheless. Plus, Jesus was crucified at the same time they were slaughtering the lambs for Passover, and it was “the day before the Sabbath”. The Jewish Sabbath is Saturday, hence Jesus was crucified on a Friday. This has been believed and accepted for 2000 years. Suddenly, someone comes along and thinks they’re the first person to notice that Friday to Sunday isn’t 72 hours, and BAM! All of Christendom has been “deceived”. Gosh, Jesus is so lucky you came along and interpreted the correctly for him!:rolleyes:

In Christ,
Ellen
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Ellen, (Edited)If you follow scripture you’ll find that a day was broken into two parts:

Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day. (Gen 1:3-5)

Notice how a day is from evening to morning, a new day started at dusk. Continuing through scripture Jesus says to further clarify what a day is:

Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours in the day? (John 11:9)

Continuing in scripture Jesus says:

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. (Matt 12:40)

Does he say, he will be in the heart of the earth for parts of three days and three nights. No He doesn’t. Who was Jesus? Wasn’t He the lamb of God? What was slaughtered on the Passover? An unblemished lamb.

Following scripture:

Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. (19:31)

This Sabbath wasn’t the normal weekly Sabbath.

After two days it was the Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread. And the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take Him by trickery and put Him to death. (Mark 14:1)

The high day was the beginning of the Feast of unleavened bread so Passover was the day BEFORE the high day and a Sabbath day. Hence He died on Wednesday, the day before the high Sabbath day and not the normal weekly Sabbath day. Now count the days and nights and you get three full days and three full nights.

When you use scripture it makes sense, when you use tradition it makes no sense.

Thanks for at least trying.
 
3rd day of the 3 days = Sunday, the day He rose
2nd day of the 3 days = Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath
1st day of the 3 days = Friday, the day He died and was buried

The above is what I was always led to believe as a protestant and again in RCIA. So I’m not really sure where the OP is coming from.
 
Nita said:
We know from Scripture and subsequent writings that Jesus rose from the dead on a Sunday – the first day of the week.
The practice of meeting together on the first day of the week for the celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice is indicated in Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2; in Apocalypse 1:10, it is called the Lord’s day. In the Didache (14) the injunction is given: “On the Lord’s Day come together and break bread. And give thanks (offer the Eucharist), after confessing your sins that your sacrifice may be pure”.** St. Ignatius **(Ep. ad Magnes. ix) speaks of Christians as “no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s Day, on which also Our Life rose again”. In the Epistle of Barnabas (xv) we read: “Wherefore, also, we keep the eight day (i.e. the first of the week) with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead”.
newadvent.org/cathen/14335a.htm

We know Jesus told the apostles that after He had been killed, He would rise again on the 3rd day.Matthew 16:21 From that time Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised.

Matthew 20:19 and deliver him to the Gentiles to be mocked and scourged and crucified, and he will be raised on the third day."

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Now, if Jesus rose on the 3rd of those 3 days, then it must have been on the 1st of those 3 days that He died and was buried.
Thus, computing backwards from the day He rose:
3rd day of the 3 days = Sunday, the day He rose
2nd day of the 3 days = Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath
1st day of the 3 days = Friday, the day He died and was buried

What day do you believe Jesus was crucified and how did you arrive at that conclusion?
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He rose on Saturday, three days and three nights after he was killed. You need to study all of scripture for the clear picture and to fully understand who Jesus was and what was sacrificed on Passover.
 
John123Conner, you seem to be angry. Perhaps I could ask my fellow CAF members to pray for you. I have sent up a prayer for you. God bless you.
 
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