Easy Life of an Atheist

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vz71 said:
So you rank charity based upon a monetary value rather then actual one on one help?

This would bias your sample to only those with a great deal of money.
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You accepted the premise when you asked tbe question. You can’t then reject it if you don’t like the answer.
 
same as you, to learn about the faith… there was a time when I considered… now visiting is more of an affirmation. I could have been a strong atheist catholic. I agree with the moral teachings and like, even enjoy, the traditions. Unfortunately I seem to be more traditional/conservative than the current church. I played with orthodox and while they have maintained the teachings… the tradition and the ceremonies are too alien for me. So i keep looking.
 
vz71 said:
I accepted no such thing.

I asked the question and now know what it is they value.
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No you don’t. You know nothing about them except that they give money to charities. Do you know how much time they spend on charitable concerns?

As far as I can see, they value money as a means to help people. But that’s what a reasonable person would assume.
 
LateCatholic said:
Not to mention this guy:

https://www.chanzuckerberg.com/
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Our goals for the future center on two ideas: advancing human potential and promoting equal opportunity. We want to push the boundaries of how great a human life can be and make sure that everyone has access to these opportunities regardless of their circumstances.
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I take it this Zuckerberg guy is religious or a Theist, right?
 
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lool. Giving money, while it is good, it is only a small part of being good.
 
LateCatholic said:
He’s an atheist, of course.
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Do you know what kind of Atheist he is. I find it odd how someone can know what is good and yet be an atheist at the same time. But then again people can be aware of God and yet not be aware of God as an existing being.
 
IWantGod said:
I find it odd how someone can know what is good and yet be an atheist at the same time
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You must find most atheists odd, then, since knowing what is good is a trait common to most people, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist, whatever.
 
LateCatholic said:
One with the quality of giving to the less fortunate.
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I am grateful that Zuckerberg is aware of some good. But the idea of being a good person entails more than just giving money to the less fortunate.

I think a good person should be considered to be somebody who shares their good, that is to say they share the good of their being, and that would include money, talents, knowledge, time, and their empathetic care of other persons.
 
IWantGod said:
I do find it very odd. But then again one can be aware of the effect and yet not be aware of the existential cause of what makes some thing or action good
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Well, we all have our own ideas of what is odd, I suppose. Thinking that one needs to believe in a particular supernatural entity in order to see good and evil — when people of all religions and none see good and evil — is odd to me.
 
IWantGod said:
I think a good person should be considered to be somebody who shares their good , that is to say they share the good of their being, and that would include money, talents, knowledge, time, and their empathetic care of other persons.
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Are we disagreeing here? The point I am making is you do not have to believe in God to be a good person. Plenty of evil people believed in God, many good people did not, and vice versa.

The problem with religion is people use it to justify evil acts, and claim those acts are not evil. If an atheist does an evil act, we all agree it’s evil. If a religious person does something evil, we give them a pass because the base it on faith or some religious dogma.

Example:
Doctors refuse to treat a child for pain and suffering because they don’t want to spend money on pain killers.
Mother Teresa had millions of dollars but did the same thing, refusing to spend any of it on her patients, because she said pain and suffering would make the patient closer to God.

Both are evil acts. No one defends the doctor. But many people will defend Mother Teresa.

Conversely, a “Good” act is not because someone believes in God. A good act is simply because the person has good in them, regardless of their religion.
 
IWantGod said:
Do you know what kind of Atheist he is. I find it odd how someone can know what is good and yet be an atheist at the same time. But then again people can be aware of God and yet not be aware of God as an existing being.
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I find it odd that Christians do not inherently know what is good. Seriously. Christians need a book and a list.
I’ll give you a thought experiment.

Is it a sin to go to the pet store, but a puppy, and stab it with a knife in God’s name? According to the Bible, you have committed no sin. In fact, God looks upon you with favor.

But I’m sure you would say that doing that is wrong. So would an atheist. You don’t need to believe in God to know right from wrong. I think people who blindly follow religion are the crazy ones.
 
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