Easy Life of an Atheist

[IWantGod]

Is it a sin to go to the pet store, but a puppy, and stab it with a knife in God’s name?

I see where you are going with this, but it’s a misrepresentation.

I assume you are talking about animal sacrifices, where they take one of their flock, which they use for food and perhaps other things, and instead sacrifice it to God for the forgiveness of sin and to seek favor with God. It was about making a sacrifice of something they valued and giving it to God instead of themselves. It wasn’t about abusing animals.

There is nothing intrinsically evil about that act, whereas stabbing a puppy to death just for the sake of killing it would be an act of spite, and Christians would agree that would be wrong. It’s the context you have to consider when making moral judgements. The only person that would think that what Jews were doing in God’s name is wrong is the kind of person that would think that eating animals is wrong; people who anthropomorphise animals and place them on the same footing as people. But in that case, what is their objective standard for making that judgement? They’re going to need one if they expect people to believe that what they are saying is actually true. The Christian understands that without God’s existence there is no such thing as wrong doing and there is no such thing as a good person; it’s meaningless. In the absence of God’s existence, people are not talking about what is morally true, they are talking about how some action or behavior makes them feel.

 

[LateCatholic]

tabbing a puppy to death just for the sake of killing it would be an act of spite

I’m not here to argue Christian animal sacrifice. The claim was made that an atheist has no sense of right and wrong. The implied claim was that Christians have a viable moral framework because 2000+ years ago, someone claims to have talked directly to God, listened, and wrote down some rules. Atheists never talked to God, therefore have no such rules, and thus have no sense of morality.

Personally, in my opinion, Christian morality is far inferior to that of an atheist that at least bases his or her ethics on some rational framework, whether it be utilitarianism, the golden rule, the platinum rule, or something else. You are just doing what you are told - and not even by God. By someone long dead that claims to have talked to God.

The Christian understands that without God’s existence there is no such thing as wrong doing and there is no such thing as a good person; it’s meaningless.

This is the Moral Argument for Gods existence (Moral Argument). Sure, you can subscribe to it if you want. But it is easily refuted by simply accepting the fact that there is no moral absolutes. Morality is subjective. Note also that Euthyphro’s Dilemma has never been answered by christian theologians.

Regardless, I’m not hear to defend atheists. I’m not here to criticize Christians. I am simply saying that if you blindly follow a moral framework based on text written by someone who claims they spoke to God on your behalf thousands of years ago, maybe you should consider a more reasoned and structured moral framework (like the one’s atheists use).

 

[IWantGod]

I’m not here to argue Christian animal sacrifice.

Then what was the point of suggesting that Christians would be okay with stabbing a puppy, that was bought from a store, in God’s name?

Already i feel as if you are not really concerned with what is actually true.

The claim was made that an atheist has no sense of right and wrong.

I didn’t claim that. If you wish to respond to something i said, then you should address what i actually said. I never said they actually have no sense of right and wrong. I said it is odd that someone who thinks there is no God has a sense of right and wrong.

Do you see what i mean when i said that you are misrepresenting things.

 

[IWantGod]

This is the Moral Argument for Gods existence (Moral Argument). Sure, you can subscribe to it if you want. But it is easily refuted by simply accepting the fact that there is no moral absolutes. Morality is subjective. Note also that Euthyphro’s Dilemma has never been answered by christian theologians.

If there is no moral truth, then there is no right and wrong. There are only likes and dislikes. For example, i don’t like the taste of marmite, or i don’t like the feeling of somebody rapeing me.

 

[IWantGod]

Personally, in my opinion, Christian morality is far inferior to that of an atheist

Regulating ones behavior according to some pragmatic preference is not a bases for judging what is actually superior or inferior. That’s just a subjective value judgement. You are just talking about a preference. You are not talking about what is actually morally true. Moral truth is far superior, since it transcends the human fancy which is hardly trustworthy.

 

[IWantGod]

I’m not here to criticize Christians.

That much is clear looool.

 

[HerCrazierHalf]

If there is no moral truth, then there is no right and wrong. There are only likes and dislikes.

But following the likes and dislikes of a 3rd party isn’t subjective? Especially one that’s interpreted differently by so many denominations and faiths?

 

[vz71]

The claim was made that an atheist has no sense of right and wrong.

I am uncertain where this claim is from, you should quote it.

That said, the first example provided of stabbing puppies to death indicates a truly warped understanding of right and wrong.d

 

[SeriousQuestion]

Mother Teresa had millions of dollars but did the same thing, refusing to spend any of it on her patients, because she said pain and suffering would make the patient closer to God.

I don’t know if that’s truly accurate. The motives also make a difference.

 

[SeriousQuestion]

According to the Bible, you have committed no sin. In fact, God looks upon you with favor.

I have never seen anything like that in the Bible. Maybe with animals for the Old Testament, but even then that’s more like killing a cow for meat except as an offering. God even expressed His contempt of empty ritualistic practices so that’s not how it works.