EDITED: New translation used in any musical settings at Mass yet?

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For the past couple of weeks our pastor has been talking about it at the end of Mass. He said that it was to begin everywhere this Advent but the bishops have allowed pastors to begin in September. At the end of Mass yesterday morning he reminded us that the responses would be different in our parish starting today.
 
My parish began using the new Gloria yesterday evening. (Or they were supposed to have done so.) Haven’t been to Mass yet myself.
 
I went to Daily Mass at St. Patrick’s Cathedral when I was in New York about two weeks ago and they used the new translation during the Preface Dialogue:

P: The Lord Be With You
R: And With Your Spirit
P: Lift Up Your Hearts
R: We lift them up to the Lord
P: Let us give thanks to the Lord our God
R: It is right and just
 
There is NOTHING…not even a homily or class…at my parish. I am so disappointed. We got a sum total of an insert in ONE Sunday bulletin.

This is so sad in so many parishes, where the clergy seem to be dragging their feet. Here is an excellent opportunity to gradually introduce the changes, a bit at a time. And here we go again, wasting chances to evangelize and inspire the assembly.

May G-d have mercy on us all!
 
JamestheOlder said:
There is NOTHING…not even a homily or class…at my parish. I am so disappointed. We got a sum total of an insert in ONE Sunday bulletin.

This is so sad in so many parishes, where the clergy seem to be dragging their feet. Here is an excellent opportunity to gradually introduce the changes, a bit at a time. And here we go again, wasting chances to evangelize and inspire the assembly.

May G-d have mercy on us all!
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Gee, I’m sorry. At my parish there are inserts in almost every Sunday bulletin plus time allotted in the sermon to discuss the changes.
 
Yhup, for a while now. Our priest printed out these little cards with the new Gloria and Sanctus on it. Most of the parishioners ignore the change from “Lord God of power and might” to “Lord God of hosts” and continue to say “power and might” though
 
We have been attempting the Gloria in our parish. I use the word “attempting” for good reason. The “music liturgist” that commands this activity throroughly feminised the current/past Gloria. Now they have installed the new Gloria and are beginning to change the format.

I will be writing to the pastor, then the bishop, then the Vatican to lay out the case for continued liturgical abuse.
 
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We have been attempting the Gloria in our parish. I use the word “attempting” for good reason. The “music liturgist” that commands this activity throroughly feminised the current/past Gloria. Now they have installed the new Gloria and are beginning to change the format.

I will be writing to the pastor, then the bishop, then the Vatican to lay out the case for continued liturgical abuse.
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How is it feminised?

Anyway, the Gloria, Sanctus, and Mystery of Faith has been used.
 
The words were changed to be “inclusive” language. This is clear violation of GIRM and other official and standing church documents.
 
As of now the poll is 6 yes and 4 no. I voted No this morning. But that was before I went to Mass. Today was the first day we sang the Mass with the new translations. It was not that difficult. But I can’t change my vote on the poll 🤷
Our pastor told us that if we went to another parish in the next couple of months, some of the may be using the new translations and some not. There is almost two months before the first week of Advent when the new translations will be implemented everywhere.
 
My parish priest gave a little spiel on the whole new translation today. It was really, REALLY good. He led into it by reading a letter from the USCCB, which had quotes from such sources as Redemptionis Sacramentum, Liturgiam Authenticam, etc. The letter mentioned how this new translation was done by the direct command of JPII, and illustrated how it is much more in line with Vatican II. It also mentioned how the translation methods of the past were essentially flawed, and how the current method is much more literal. The whole thing was about two pages long, and Father read it word for word.

Then some people passed out these awesome handouts called simply “The Order of Mass.” They are about the size of a Chinese take-out menu, folded into thirds, and are covered completely, front-to-back, with the whole Order of Mass, with every option for parts that have options printed (the Penitential Act, the Creeds, the Mystery of Faith, the use of incense, the changes during a Pontifical Mass, etc.). Printed is every part of the peoples’ in red, and in black, above the people’s parts, are the priest’s, and an explanation of the Biblical/Traditional/traditional/theological origins of each prayer, response, saying, etc., both of the celebrant and of the people.

For example:

"The Liturgy of the Eucharist

The Eucharistic Prayer
Now the Liturgy of the Eucharistic proper begins, with the Eucharistic Prayer. It is the climax of the mass–the supreme prayer, during which heaven and earth become one. It begins with what is known as the Preface. As a sign that the celebrant is inviting the assembly to enter into the Prayer, he begins by saying…

Celebrant: The Lord be with you.
People: And with your spirit.
Celebrant: Lift up your hearts.
People: We lift them up to the Lord.
Celebrant: Let us give thanks to the Lord our God.
People: It is right and just.

At the conclusion of the Preface, everyone joins in the ‘Sanctus,’ or, ‘Holy, Holy Holy.’ This text is inspired by the visions of heaven reported by the prophet Isaiah (6:1-3) and the Apostle John in the Book of Revelation (4:8)…" (This thing isn’t copyrighted)

Et cetera.

Father really gave this speech of his some thought. He mentioned how this translation would be more attractive to the traditionalist-minded Catholics, and even used words like “Tridentine” and “Pauline.”

Also… it really surprised me, but for the past three weeks my parish has been singing Latin hymns for the communion hymn. Today was something about angels, completely a capella. It was great to have no music playing in the background during this, the background silence left a really lasting mark on the atmosphere of that solemn time.
 
Our Pastor spoke of the changes in the Homily today. We have two classes set up a week until the changes take place for those who are interested in exactly what changes will take place. Also, we have had flyers put into each bulletin during the past couple of week.
 
Our diocese is using the new Gloria so we aren’t surprised at its use at Xmas after a 4 weeks of non use during Advent. Not sure what other parts will be allowed to be used soon, most likely not till Advent.
 
I heard the organist sing the revised English Gloria last week. Zipped right through it and no one seemed to care.

It was, however, a different parish from the one I regularly attend. I just saw a small bulletin insert today on the new translations in the parish I normally attend. They have the English and Spanish OF as well as the EF. As I attend the EF there, I guess I shouldn’t expect anyone talking about the new translations.
 
We began the new Gloria a few weeks ago, the new Sanctus last week, and the new “mystery of faith” and great Amen today. Also our priest has started with the new words of the consecration. I believe our parish plan is to add something new every week or so in the weeks leading up to Advent. That way, on the first weekend of Advent we will put the final piece in place and be entirely into the new translation.
 
Yes, this is our third week singing the new mass parts. We are doing the Gloria, Alleluia, Holy, Mystery of Faith, Amen, and Lamb of God all with the new setting. I think it is going fairly well, people slowly seem to be picking up on them and I haven’t heard any complaints. 👍
 
I just wanted to say how bad the new translation of the Gloria sounds polyphonically.
 
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