Election 2012 - Who to vote for?

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Ya, that doesn’t sound like a biased poll…:rolleyes:

This poll taken a month ago has ROmney up 2%

rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/ohio/election_2012_ohio_president

You are really going to base an opinion on NARAL ProCHoice America? Really?
Peace of Christ be with you!

The point of my post to make clear is pro choice supporters are happy the healthcare passed. Really! Hint… it counld be because the plan includes abortion and brithcontrol and the RU 486 abortion drug.

If you go back to 2008 and look at the electorial map you will see Ohio. Pennsylvania and Florida were and still are BOH supporters.
 
Bwahahaha and I’m sure Dennis Kucinich is gonna be the next Pope according to those fools. :rotfl:

According to Quinnepac

They also said that lying weaselly goof Mandel is tied with Sherrod Brown.

Rasmussen say Ohio: Romney 46%, Obama 44%

I think the Pro-Choicers are doubling down on their Obama Kool-Aide
Ohio is a swing state. The major cities are strong liberal majorities in Cleveland, Columbus, Toledo, Akron, and Youngstown While central and western counties tend to be xtreme conservatives.

Is that by popular vote or electorial?
 
If you go back to 2008 and look at the electorial map you will see Ohio. Pennsylvania and Florida were and still are BOH supporters.
Sure. They were swing states in 2008, and they are swing states this year. The fact that they went Obama last time means absolutely nothing. The economy stinks. They can easily swing toward Romney. That is the nature of a swing state. 👍

California? Not so much. 😛
 
Republicans have a vested interest in keeping abortion legal. It is a wedge issue that galvanizes the voting base against Democrats. If abortion were outlawed, who would get excited about voting for Republicans? How many Catholics could vote Democrat if there were no chance of legalizing abortion?
I’ve heard this many times, but I don’t buy it. It is conspiratorial thinking of the tin-foil hat variety.

If, God willing, we are successful in ending legalized abortion, there are still plenty of other issues that Catholics care about. Not all Catholics buy into the idea that huge, federal, bureucratic social programs are in line with the Social Doctrine of the Church.
 
How any Catholic could vote for a president who promotes abortion so much and is using tax money for international abortions!?!

How do you sugar coat this and somehow vote for Obama? It’s beyond my reasoning.
It is very simple. For many people, promoting their ideology is far more important than promoting their faith. Or… in simpler terms, their ideology IS their faith.
 
=Zosimus41;9495219]Peace of Christ be with you!
The point of my post to make clear is pro choice supporters are happy the healthcare passed. Really! Hint… it counld be because the plan includes abortion and brithcontrol and the RU 486 abortion drug.
Translation, they get these and others paying for it for them.

Jon
 
We need to pray for Cardinal Dolan of New York. It would seem very likely that the next mayor of NYC will be a lesbian woman who claims that the Catholic Church is “hers” and she will do whatever she wants and no one is going to get in her way. Cardinal Dolan will need lots of moxie to stand up against this monstrosity if she gets elected mayor.
Christine Quinn, New York City Council Speaker, Marries …

New York Times

May 19, 2012 · … Quinn, the speaker of the New York City Council and a leading candidate to be mayor, married her … the first female and the first openly gay New York City mayor
She is a professed Catholic and has dared the Catholic Church to deny her communion.

When it’s Sunday on National Public Radio, it must be time to announce the Catholic Church is out of step with modern times. On Weekend Edition Sunday, NPR granted a soft-soap eight-minute interview to New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, the front-runner to succeed Michael Bloomberg as Mayor. NPR touted: “Christine Quinn has a notable biography. She’s from an Irish family, she’s Catholic and gay.”

She’s so “Catholic” that her “wedding” to Kim Catullo last year featured her walking down the aisle with her father to Beyonce’s “Ave Maria,” which is just another love song, not the actual Hail Mary hymn in any way. Her partner marched down the aisle with her dad, too…to Bruce Springsteen. NPR anchor David Greene asked as one of the “most powerful gay women” in America, if she shouldn’t just leave the church that won’t accept her homosexuality:

GREENE: Your Catholic faith and your family, I wonder on a personal level how you sort of deal with that in your life and also, you know, deal with being gay - not only gay, but one of the most powerful gay women in politics in this country.

QUINN: Well, it’s just who I am. I mean, I’m Catholic and I’m gay. There’s not much to deal with. It’s who I am. It’s how I wake up every morning.

GREENE: But your church, obviously, doesn’t, you know, officially accept that.

QUINN: Right. That’s kind of their problem, not mine. I mean, I just don’t dwell on it. I’m not really sure what the upside of me dwelling on it would be. I mean, I was raised Catholic, I take a lot of comfort and inspiration and motivation and support from my faith. I get what they kind of see in some political issues. They get that we’re not in agreement on that. But that doesn’t make me not who I am. It’s still who I am.

GREENE: Do you ever wake up and think I need to leave this church, I need to leave this faith, I…

QUINN: No. Well, how can you leave a faith? A faith is who you are. It’s what’s inside of you. It’s how you see the world. It’s what inspires you. It’s what comforts you. It’s what uplifts you in the dark days. You can’t leave a faith. The faith is who you are. It’s what you have. Why should I leave the church? It’s my church. They’re the ones who have the wrong perspective. I’m not going to leave. If I leave, it’s as if they won. I’m going to go into any church any time I want to, whenever I want to. It’s my church. And no one’s ever asked me to and no one ever will.

GREENE: Speaker Quinn, thank you so much for speaking with us.

This is the ultimate snit fit of “identity politics” – I’m Catholic, and no one can say that I’m not…even though I refuse to agree with church teaching on any number of things (including being a NARAL darling on abortion).

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Sure. They were swing states in 2008, and they are swing states this year. The fact that they went Obama last time means absolutely nothing. The economy stinks. They can easily swing toward Romney. That is the nature of a swing state. 👍

California? Not so much. 😛
My prediction Ohio will go BHO We will pick this conversation up in Nov and see whos right…LOL

Dont forget!
 
Translation, they get these and others paying for it for them.

Jon
Jon,

What I dont understand is why the bishops are now all of a sudden behind the health care act.

Can you explain that one please 😦
 
How any Catholic could vote for a president who promotes abortion so much and is using tax money for international abortions!?!

How do you sugar coat this and somehow vote for Obama? It’s beyond my reasoning.
How can people assist with the slaughter of 6,000,000 Jews?
 
Jon,

What I dont understand is why the bishops are now all of a sudden behind the health care act.

Can you explain that one please 😦
That’s news to me. Cardinal Dolan and Bishop Lori have been pretty outspoken against it.
Which bishops have spoken in favor of it?

Jon
 
Life (from natural birth to natural death).

Marriage (one man/one woman).

Family (protect tradtional).

Religious Freedom.

The only person who wants to protect all of those is Romney.

Further, the poor cannot be helped without a robust economy and I believe Romney will make the economy stronger, which means increased opportunities will exist to help the poor.
:irish2: That’s 5 for 5 and well put – with your economic take as the cherry on top.

I too liked Santorum best when that was an option. But Romney vs. Obama is not close. :nope:

It’s funny, I voted for Romney four years ago (California primary) as a pragmatic thing; I’d liked Huckabee better but Romney was the non-McCain. When Romney already had the nomination this year I voted for Santorum to let my voice be heard. :okpeople:

I hope Romney proves to be better than Obama-Lite (but I’ll bet some political advisors are telling him to be JUST that in a sort of “Price is Right” strategy aimed at getting more “moderates” or “undecideds”). :hmmm:

America Go Braugh! (US version of Erin Go Braugh! < Ireland Forever!)
 
Too bad she couldn’t be excommunicated… or could she ? Sounds rather Blasphemous to me.
I think that any Catholic who is directly involved in a so-called “same-sex marriage” incurs a latia sententia excommunication.

ronconte.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/the-excommunication-of-catholics-who-obtain-a-gay-marriage/

If she publicly “married” her same sex partner, she is excommunicated automatically and should be denied communion at any obedient Catholic church.
 
:irish2: That’s 5 for 5 and well put – with your economic take as the cherry on top.

I too liked Santorum best when that was an option. But Romney vs. Obama is not close. :nope:

It’s funny, I voted for Romney four years ago (California primary) as a pragmatic thing; I’d liked Huckabee better but Romney was the non-McCain. When Romney already had the nomination this year I voted for Santorum to let my voice be heard. :okpeople:

I hope Romney proves to be better than Obama-Lite (but I’ll bet some political advisors are telling him to be JUST that in a sort of “Price is Right” strategy aimed at getting more “moderates” or “undecideds”). :hmmm:

America Go Braugh! (US version of Erin Go Braugh! < Ireland Forever!)
I agree with your hope. Tanx for the nice comments. Go Irish. 🙂
 
:irish2: That’s 5 for 5 and well put – with your economic take as the cherry on top.

I too liked Santorum best when that was an option. But Romney vs. Obama is not close. :nope:

It’s funny, I voted for Romney four years ago (California primary) as a pragmatic thing; I’d liked Huckabee better but Romney was the non-McCain. When Romney already had the nomination this year I voted for Santorum to let my voice be heard. :okpeople:

I hope Romney proves to be better than Obama-Lite (but I’ll bet some political advisors are telling him to be JUST that in a sort of “Price is Right” strategy aimed at getting more “moderates” or “undecideds”). :hmmm:

America Go Braugh! (US version of Erin Go Braugh! < Ireland Forever!)
yes this is true but still not a fan of romney, don’t like how he changed his view on abortion, not sure if I can trust him with the big bills if they were to pass through his desk. I know he wants to repeal obama care but with his history he would put something in not to different then obama care, maybe just excluding religious freedom violations. He’s pro war don’t like that, along with other things. When I go to the polls this november (I actually might vote absentee) I will have to remind myself that I am voting against obama not for Romney, and if Romney gets elected and the country turns for the even worse then under obama I would just tell myself atleast we have a pro life president in the white house.

Lastly wasn’t a big fan of santorum more of a Ron Paul guy.
 
Life (from natural birth to natural death).

Marriage (one man/one woman).

Family (protect tradtional).

Religious Freedom.

The only person who wants to protect all of those is Romney.

Further, the poor cannot be helped without a robust economy and I believe Romney will make the economy stronger, which means increased opportunities will exist to help the poor.
This:thumbsup:
 
I’ll vote 3rd party, Constitution or Libertarian, depending who’s on the ballot.
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                                Between Obama and Romney, I'd rather see Obama re-elected, because Romney will be like a Trojan Horse. Obama is galvanizing opposition to the government and it needs to be brought to a fever pitch. If Romney get's in we'll see very little change, and only the leftists will be stepping. It's time for the whole rotten system to go.
Not a good plan…:eek::eek::eek:
 
yes this is true but still not a fan of romney, don’t like how he changed his view on abortion, not sure if I can trust him with the big bills if they were to pass through his desk. I know he wants to repeal obama care but with his history he would put something in not to different then obama care, maybe just excluding religious freedom violations. He’s pro war don’t like that, along with other things. When I go to the polls this november (I actually might vote absentee) I will have to remind myself that I am voting against obama not for Romney, and if Romney gets elected and the country turns for the even worse then under obama I would just tell myself atleast we have a pro life president in the white house.

Lastly wasn’t a big fan of santorum more of a Ron Paul guy.
I have some of the same concerns with Romney … but I don’t think I’ll dwell on them now.
Besides his “at least being pro-life” < (NOT a small deal) I recall that at masses throughout the country we pray specifically for the President all the time.

In Bill Clinton’s case the Holy Spirit and all those prayers couldn’t get him to sign the partial birth abortion ban on his desk. In Obama’s - perhaps the prayers are restraining him from being worse, but he appears to be attacking the Church.

Maybe prayers for Romney will help if he gets elected. “Couldn’t hurt!”

Not sure about your pro-war comment. Although Paul was donning the “peace” candidate mantle a bit more (at least insisting that Congress be involved in declaring it if memory serves).

War is a sticky thing. When I hear the word “pro-war” I think of someone who’s looking to start one (for some sort of evil gain). Sometimes nations find themselves “at war” when they are attacked - self defense is a different principle there, and “turning the other cheek” to a vicious enemy has the side effect of NOT assisting one’s threatened neighbors per justice.

Anyway - it is good to be thoughtful about the weightiest matters when choosing our national (and state and local) leaders.

May God bless you greatly in your Seminary studies catholictiger! 👍
 
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