Election 2012 - Who to vote for?

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Mickey said:
Won’t you be surprised then. 😉
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Remember this if you vote in 2016. If 2012 is a make or break year (I personally think 2008 was a bigger turning point), then boy did the GOP pick the wrong horse to ride!
 
PTL said:
For those who are NOT going to vote, please think and re-think. If you don’t want our nation to be completely destroyed and has no return, then you must vote, and vote for Romney. Evil prevails because of the majority silence. So is this election. Not voting for Romney is voting for Obama.

Romneycare is very different from Obamacare. It was around 70 pages instead of 2700 pages. Romneycare does not contain any those immoral laws and numerous irrelevant regulations as Obamacare. Romney is good at creating jobs and turn around the economy. He will not persecute the Catholic church.

This election is not about what you like or dislike. It is not about “you” at all. It is about the future of our nation.
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As Catholics, we don’t vote just for the sake of voting. Sometimes we must vote for none of the above. Sometimes civil disobedience is our only option. Sometimes Prayer is the only remedy. Not voting for Romney is not voting for Romney. Voting for a fake conservative is much worse than not voting at all. Those that vote FOR Obama will have to answer for it, not those that don’t vote for Romney. Again, you seem to adhere to the notion of “the lesser of two evils” as if it is some teaching of the Catholic Church. The “lesser of two evils” logic is why we are in this mess. It is why things will only get worse. It’s akin to a frog boiling slowly in water.

Romneycare set the precedent for Obamacare. There is no way around that fact and if Romney doesn’t come to terms with it, he will be made a fool in the coming televised debates. Romney had persecuted the Catholic Church and other private hospitals long before Obama was even a blip on the radar screen. In 2005, under pressure from all sides, Romney caved and flip-flopped and ORDERED Catholic hospitals and other religously-affiliated hospitals to administer the Morning After Pill (an abortifacient) to rape victims. “The initial injury to Catholic religious freedom came not from the Obama administration but from the Romney administration,” said C.J. Doyle, executive director of the Catholic Action League of Massachusetts. “President Obama’s plan certainly constitutes an assault on the constitutional rights of Catholics, but I’m not sure Govenor Romney is in a position to assert that, given his own very mixed record on this…He is very consistent at working both sides of the street on the same issue at the same time. His record on this issue has been one of very cynical and tactical manipulation.”
 
rlg94086 said:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. “Hate” is a strong word. Just because I think he’s a nutter on some issues, doesn’t mean I hate the man. And, I’m hardly a Country Club Republican. I am a Catholic conservative who affiliates with the Republican Party because it is the closest of the two major parties to my views. I like to be part of a party that actually matters, so I can vote in the primary and have some influence.

You and I agree on much more than we disagree.
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Do you like grilled steak? If we can’t get that one out of the way, there isn’t much more to go on…😃
 
eightandsand said:
As Catholics, we don’t vote just for the sake of voting. Sometimes we must vote for none of the above. Sometimes civil disobedience is our only option.
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Civil disobedience is to disobey immoral law. Not voting has nothing to do with civil disobedience.

I don’t have the mentality of voting for less evil. I believe Romney will bring our economy around. There are too many people suffer in this Obama economy. The theater shooting is caused by the man’s great frustration of his job situation. We must have a leader like Romney to rebuild this country’s economy.

If you don’t vote for Romney, your are helping Obama. Your protest of not having an ideal candidate won’t get anywhere but make this country suffer more. Are you saying you’d rather help Obama?
 
irishpatrick said:
Life (from natural birth to natural death).

Marriage (one man/one woman).

Family (protect tradtional).

Religious Freedom.

The only person who wants to protect all of those is Romney.

Further, the poor cannot be helped without a robust economy and I believe Romney will make the economy stronger, which means increased opportunities will exist to help the poor.
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I agree. In the 1980 election, the republicans asked the question “are you better off then you were four years ago?” In answering this question this year, it is more then economics… its our religious freedoms. Are you better off?
 
pennyquilt said:
I agree. In the 1980 election, the republicans asked the question “are you better off then you were four years ago?” In answering this question this year, it is more then economics… its our religious freedoms. Are you better off?
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Not only that, is our COUNTRY better off? We all care about America, not just our own interests and those of the future generations. Obama is taking us on a road to ruin. His ideology is paralyzing to him. He will not get off the Leftist train even though he should be able to see everything he’s done has made things worse.

Lisa
 
LisaA said:
Obama is taking us on a road to ruin. His ideology is paralyzing to him. He will not get off the Leftist train even though he should be able to see everything he’s done has made things worse.

Lisa
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Pride cometh before the fall…😉
 
My :twocents: :

Overall, I agree with Obama more than Romney, but he supports two key issues - birth control/abortion and gay marriage - to which I am morally opposed. However, I absolutely disagree with Romney on essentially every issue besides the two issues mentioned above.

In other words, our two-party political system sucks. The only way I can vote Obama out of office is to vote for his opponent, even though his opponent is hardly any more in tune with Catholic teaching than Obama.
 
PTL said:
Civil disobedience is to disobey immoral law. Not voting has nothing to do with civil disobedience.

I don’t have the mentality of voting for less evil. I believe Romney will bring our economy around. There are too many people suffer in this Obama economy. **The theater shooting is caused by the man’s great frustration of his job situation. ** We must have a leader like Romney to rebuild this country’s economy.

If you don’t vote for Romney, your are helping Obama. Your protest of not having an ideal candidate won’t get anywhere but make this country suffer more. Are you saying you’d rather help Obama?
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You seem to take politicians on their word. I vote strictly based on their record. If that means that I don’t vote for either option, so be it. The political process has its limitations. When those limitations are met, then all we have left is Prayer.

Your attempt to link the theater shooting “caused by the man’s great frustration of his job situation” to the broken economy which Romney will fix almost made me laugh before I found myself with the urge to throw up. What a sickening, politically-calculated exploitation of a tragedy.

In answer to your question: “No” I would not like to help Obama. The Republican Party is doing a good enough job at that by having supported and propped-up fake conservatives like Romney and McCain. There would have been no Obama had The Republican Party put up a real conservative last time around. I don’t see how a practicing Catholics can vote for either of these two milk-toast men. Neither one represents the interests of Catholics or the Constitution. Both have records contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church. Time to wake up.
 
acarlson said:
The only way I can vote Obama out of office is to vote for his opponent.
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Christ would care about one issue in this election…his precious unborn children in the womb who are being murdered evreyday.

Now you know who to vote for.
 
LisaA said:
Obama is taking us on a road to ruin. His ideology is paralyzing to him. He will not get off the Leftist train even though he should be able to see everything he’s done has made things worse.

Lisa
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That is because it has not brought him to ruin. He still sees that he must play to his power base.
 
catholictiger said:
I would say 90%+ or maybe even 95%+ of people who go to weekly mass will not vote for obama. But those who don’t go to mass weekly will vote for obama. .
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I guess I’m part of that small percentage, as are many of my Catholic, church going friends. I voted for him last time and am considering voting for him this time again. It think your guess is a little off, based on my anecdotal experience.
 
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Why would a catholic vote for a morman? They push the same agenda Satan does. You will become like Gods! Obama is no prize either. Am I missing something?
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Put me down as going for the O-man.

Romney seems an intelligent capable and decent person, but he’s already been captured by the more extreme wings of his party. Note his many change of views to accommodate that wing, including his repudiation of the health care ideas that he himself pioneered. That’s just not credible leadership.

If the real Romney had had the courage to run, the moderate sensible guy hiding under the current political pose, I might have been interested.
 
sharmin said:
I guess I’m part of that small percentage, as are many of my Catholic, church going friends. I voted for him last time and am considering voting for him this time again. It think your guess is a little off, based on my anecdotal experience.
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what is your reasoning for voting for obama?

how could you vote for someone who is so pro choice.
 
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