Election a setback for the prolife movement

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Just for interest sake, how many more Dailey’s are there around who might run?
It’s Daley.

And I haven’t announced for anything yet!

His brother John is on the County Board (and most would say he runs it behind the scenes). He has a couple of other brothers. It wouldn’t appear likely, though it is certainly possible, that any of them would run for anything more. But the mayor and his siblings all have kids.
 
These are the seven states I have watched, New York, Conn, MA, RI, Me, VT and NH. For the last fifteen years, I have attended legislation sessions in three states on bills such as right to know, stem cell, euthanasia, adoption laws, hate crime, morning after pill, and gay marriage and civil union, etc. I have watched roll call after roll call vote and it has been democrats who have voted pro-death. There are enough democrats even in NH where there are more republican senators and representatives to swing the vote to a pro-death vote. All it takes is a margin of pro-death republicans and the whole of the democrat block to swing the vote.

For forty years, the Northeast has been gone. It is a cancer. The base of democratic party is pro-death. Some states even track each life legislation and record each vote to give a final % of how often the representative or senate voted pro-life. Here is NH 18 page simple scorecard. Look at the democrats and how they vote - 100% prodeath.

nhrtl.org/pac/2006/Cornerstone_017a_VoterScorecard.pdf

nhrtl.org/ (if the first link doesn’t work)
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilzation has been 200 years. Alexander Tyler, Historian
 
originally posted by Chicago
128 representatives in NH??? Shoot, we only have 118 total in the Illinois State House and we’re a much bigger state.
Each state is different when it comes to the number of representatives and senators. MA had 156 represenatatives(small number of republicans) with 40 senators while NH has 395 representatives and 24 senators.
NH has seen an increase from 128 democrat representatives in 2004 to 160 in 2005.
I have a hard time believing that all of the Churchgoing Catholic base of the Democratic voters are inherantly pro-abort, pro-gay marriage and such.
Ma has over 2 million catholics and RI has a large catholic population. IN MA they televised the gay marriage house roll call on regular TV - the whole debate and vote. It was common for the catholic representative to take a podium and state “I am catholic and in favor of gay marriage. It is a civil right.” Maybe it was not on TV throughtout the US ??? Did the population of MA vote these same democrat representatives back in. They did.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilzation has been 200 years. Alexander Tyler, Historian
 
It’s Daley.

And I haven’t announced for anything yet!

His brother John is on the County Board (and most would say he runs it behind the scenes). He has a couple of other brothers. It wouldn’t appear likely, though it is certainly possible, that any of them would run for anything more. But the mayor and his siblings all have kids.
Thanks for the correction. No wonder it looked funny to me when I typed it.
 
Each state is different when it comes to the number of representatives and senators.
Yes, I know. Still, it seems to be a lot for a small state.
Ma has over 2 million catholics and RI has a large catholic population. IN MA they televised the gay marriage house roll call on regular TV - the whole debate and vote. It was common for the catholic representative to take a podium and state “I am catholic and in favor of gay marriage. It is a civil right.” Maybe it was not on TV throughtout the US ??? Did the population of MA vote these same democrat representatives back in. They did.
It is my contention that though the elected officials (many of whom are, as you accurately state Catholic) may vote against a pro-life conscience, that they are not necessarily reflecting the will and opinion of their Catholic constituencies, who probably aren’t being given good options at the ballot box. The same Catholic voters would likely be quite content and pleased to vote for a Democratic candidate who happenned to be pro-life, instead.
 
Each state is different when it comes to the number of representatives and senators. MA had 156 represenatatives(small number of republicans) with 40 senators while NH has 395 representatives and 24 senators.
NH has seen an increase from 128 democrat representatives in 2004 to 160 in 2005.
Ma has over 2 million catholics and RI has a large catholic population. IN MA they televised the gay marriage house roll call on regular TV - the whole debate and vote. It was common for the catholic representative to take a podium and state “I am catholic and in favor of gay marriage. It is a civil right.” Maybe it was not on TV throughtout the US ??? Did the population of MA vote these same democrat representatives back in. They did.
Small correction. Each state has the same number of senators, two each. Only the House has membership in proportion to their population.
 
originally posted by chicago
The same Catholic voters would likely be quite content and pleased to vote for a Democratic candidate who happenned to be pro-life, instead
They will not vote for republicans even though they state they are pro-life. I agree that they will vote for democrat pro-life candidates but they are not to be found even at the state representative level.
When Naral, The Feminist Majority, NOW, and the Humanist Society are the support system of the party where will the money come from to get elected. In Ma, it can costs hundreds of thousands to even run at the lowest level. These are well paid part-time jobs. The representatives get $80 thousand+ and most have law offices.

I don’t believe the people of MA wanted the morning after pill over the counter. Yet the representative legislature over-rode Gov. Romney veto. The vote was approxiomately 140(democrats) to 15(republicans). I believe every single senator(democrats) voted in favor of. Once these bills pass in the Northeast, they influence the whole country.
orignally posted by mary bobo
Each state has the same number of senators, two each
Mary, I am talking on the state level for bills at the state house not federal. To me the lowest base of any party is at the state level.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilzation has been 200 years. Alexander Tyler, Historian
 
nhrtl.org/

Please take a second and go to this site and click on the voter guide for 2006 from Cornerstone Research. It loads pretty fast even with slow interenet. It is written in a simple format. It is an eighteen page report on each pro-life piece on legislation and how the each republican representative and each democrat representative voted. Just look at the democrat representative vote only.Granted it is for one state but it is representative of how democrats vote in the northeast.
 
orignallly posted by mary bobo
Olympia Snow, Smith from Maine, Kennedy, Kerry, Leahy
Sen. Kerry and Kennedy from MA are prochoice Democrats. Sen Patrick Leahy from Vt. is now a Democrat. Republican Sen.Margaret Smith is dead but was a moderate. Republican Sen.Snow from Me is a prochoice liberal.

Senator Chaffee of RI did have an opponent in the primary race. His name was Laffey, Mayor of Cranston who is pro-life but lost to Chafee… RI then voted out prochoice Sen. Chaffee and voted in prochoice Democrat Whitehouse.

I am not even sure I have to clarify because it is understood that if you are democrat, you are prochoice but with the election of soft prolife Democrat Sen. Casey from PA I will.
 
They will not vote for republicans even though they state they are pro-life. I agree that they will vote for democrat pro-life candidates but they are not to be found even at the state representative level.
When Naral, The Feminist Majority, NOW, and the Humanist Society are the support system of the party where will the money come from to get elected. In Ma, it can costs hundreds of thousands to even run at the lowest level. These are well paid part-time jobs. The representatives get $80 thousand+ and most have law offices.

I don’t believe the people of MA wanted the morning after pill over the counter. Yet the representative legislature over-rode Gov. Romney veto. The vote was approxiomately 140(democrats) to 15(republicans). I believe every single senator(democrats) voted in favor of. Once these bills pass in the Northeast, they influence the whole country.

Mary, I am talking on the state level for bills at the state house not federal. To me the lowest base of any party is at the state level.
I stand corrected.
 
I wish people would understand that the current group of priests and bishops are not going to do anything to shed a bad light on their Democratic Party. I understand that there are some good priests and bishops who are not attached at the hip to the Democratic Party, but the vast majority are Democrats first and Catholic priests second or third.

That silly voter’s guide put out by John Kerry staffer Alexia Kelly, “Voting for the Common Good”, was was distributed in a number of parishes in the Archdiocese of Chicago. I know of one priest who persisted in distributing it even after the Archdiocese banned it. I called the local bishop and he was not too concerned, sticking up for the priest who told us that he did not know of the ban (an email was for sure sent out).

I would hope parsihioners would take it upon themselves to distribute literature and inform other parishioners of important issues such as abortion, gay marriage, cloning ect… Simply bypass the priests and bishops. You do not need the permission of the priests to distribute literature on public sidewalks or roadsides. You also can distribute literature in the church and parking lot but if the priest orders you to stop you must take it to the public property.

Pray for the priests and bishops but do not wait for them to do anything that jopardize the Democratic Party.
Hmm…this is the first I’ve heard of the “Voting for the COmmon Good” being pushed by archdiocesan priests. But as far as distributing literature, I recall that every Sunday before election day people would be standing outside parishes handing out the pro-life candidate ratings. I don’t know if that is being done any more.
 
Senator Chaffee of RI did have an opponent in the primary race. His name was Laffey, Mayor of Cranston who is pro-life but lost to Chafee… RI then voted out prochoice Sen. Chaffee and voted in prochoice Democrat Whitehouse.
As I recall, there was a pro-life Democratic congressman (Langevin?) who wanted to run against Chaffee, but the national part leaders felt that one pro-life Democrat was enough.
 
They will not vote for republicans even though they state they are pro-life. I agree that they will vote for democrat pro-life candidates…
I’m with you to this point.
… but they are not to be found even at the state representative level.
Again, that’s a problem of good candidates not being offerred as I suggested earlier. In my area and much of the midwest there are plenty (well at least more than a few) of pro-lifers on the local and state levels of government.
When Naral, The Feminist Majority, NOW, and the Humanist Society are the support system of the party where will the money come from to get elected. In Ma, it can costs hundreds of thousands to even run at the lowest level. These are well paid part-time jobs. The representatives get $80 thousand+ and most have law offices.
True enough. This is where it helps to have a “machine” or politicians from rural areas where the money isn’t as big of a factor.
I don’t believe the people of MA wanted the morning after pill over the counter. Yet the representative legislature over-rode Gov. Romney veto.
What’s up with Romney, anyway? I understand that MA elected a new gov?
 
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