Elmo: Refugee kids are just like us

[josie_L]

Here’s exactly what I’ve been trying to say, spoken by an AFRICAN cardinal in the Vatican:

Cardinal Peter Turkson, the highest ranking African prelate in the Vatican, said it is high time to “close the tap” of African immigration into Europe, which has reached new records in recent days.

Asked about recent rumblings that Italian authorities are finally ready to close down ports and begin turning away ships filled with migrants, Turkson told reporters the time has come to “turn off the faucet” of African migration to Europe and instead focus on migrants’ countries of origin.

“It is like water flowing from an open tap,” he said. “It’s not enough just to dry it, you have to turn off the faucet,” he added, noting that the vast majority of African countries are not war zones from which the populations must necessarily flee. “In my opinion, we can change things in order to keep young people where they are.”

The Cardinal is the chairman of the Vatican office of integral human development, which was born on January 1 as a merger of four former departments and is responsible for issues such as justice, peace, environment, health, humanitarian aid and migration.

Earlier this week, Italian leaders suggested they may finally be ready to block the massive flows of migrants arriving by sea from North Africa, declaring that the current situation is “unsustainable.” Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni said Italy “cannot go on like this,” while accusing other EU nations of “looking the other way,” a criticism echoed by the Ghanaian cardinal.

Turkson said that the rest of Europe has not been “playing its part” in dealing with the migration crisis, which has forced Italy into a situation of emergency.

At the same time, he suggested that closing Italian ports is not sufficient to completely remedy the problem, which must be addressed at the root.

While “the decision of the Italians is internal to Europe,” Turkson said, “one cannot take care of these questions only in Europe.”

“The big problem is addressing this issue at its source from the angle of development, to ensure that people stop arriving into Europe,” said the cardinal.

Turkson insisted that his hardline position is not contradictory to the Christian notion of acting as “good Samaritans” with people in difficulty, but addresses the reality of what countries can bear and what is ultimately causing the crisis.

Earlier this week, some 13,500 African migrants arrived on Italian shores in the space of just 48 hours, leading local media as well as politicians to speak of an authentic immigrant “invasion” exceeding the country’s capacity of assimilation.

According to official figures, more than 73,000 migrants have arrived in Italy since the beginning of the year, which represents a rise of more than 14 percent over the same period in 2016, when then-record arrivals had reached 64,133.

breitbart.com/london/2017/07/01/african-cardinal-in-vatican-urges-europe-to-turn-off-the-faucet-of-immigration/

 

[josie_L]

Agreed. ( But Italy would be my first choice)

Unbelievable!!! You don’t even understand the precarious position Italy is under, do you?

 

[Sarcelle]

Unbelievable!!! You don’t even understand the precarious position Italy is under, do you?

Not just Italy.

I hear Greece has the same predicament.

These countries are struggling economically how can they support more of these migrants when they can barely take care of their own?

 

[josie_L]

Not just Italy.

I hear Greece has the same predicament.

These countries are struggling economically how can they support more of these migrants when they can barely take care of their own?

Exactly, but I use Italy as an example because I have close ties to the country (much of my extended family lives there).

 

[Athanasiy]

Oh, by the way, has Russia accepted any refugees?

Yes, Russia accepts refugees but many of these refugees would preffer rather to stay at home, but they had no choice.( That if we are talking about Donetsk and Lugansk refugees)
The qualities of Russian compassion and solidarity, of course, will more manifest to the Slav, but refugees are more welcomed in Siberia, which should be rebuilt.

Of course the students from Latin America and Africa can not be called refugees but xenophobia and racism in Russia are obvious, the students from Africa and Arab countries do not feel safe in all cities, аs shown by the statistics of beatings of foreign students.
Instead of rebuilding the Northern Caucasus, Northern Caucasians are also invited to build up Siberia.
People emigrate as cheap labor across Russia, while at home there is a chronic unemployment, And the attitude towards them is disdainful because they are not of Slavic appearance.
It is enough to look at the conditions of prisons, hospitals, boarding schools, living conditions of soldiers and it will become and there will come a rhetorical question , how can such a state take care of refugees if such a hateful attitude towards their citizens?
Apologists of Putinism, I invite you to put on the skin of a simple Russian citizen and go to Russia.
People who lived a little in the West, they return to Russia as Slavic-haters.

 

[Athanasiy]

In addition to volunteer assistance of the army, Ukrainian citizens received millions of refugees from the war zones. Ukrainian cities successfully solved the problem of refugees. If to talk about the foreign refugees, the nationalists negatively perceive those who came especially from Muslim countries. Nationalists are afraid that the cities will eventually be transformed into Islamic micro-states within the state. But we integrate into Europe, into the world of capital, into the world of business. Investors in industries that need capital sometimes with a different skin color. Ukrainian cities are receiving more and more foreign students. Turkish small business, for example, actively invests in the cities of Ukraine. Perhaps these foreigners do not have white skin but they bring novelty, dynamism and revitalize competition in favor of the buyer. Yes, I am not talking about the invasion of those in need. We are the country with a poor population, therefore I do not think that for example a Syrian or Afghan refugee will be very comfortable in Ukraine, but war conflict is a prove that we should not forget that Ukrainian cities have taken millions of refugees from the territories in the wake of the war in Lugansk, Donetsk.

 

[Athanasiy]

But when the Donetsk refugees arrived in the Carpathian region, this was not always a matter of conscience. It’s one thing when you help women with children and another thing when the healthy and strong looking Donetsk men demand a comfortable arrangement, moreover, they sometimes pierce the brains of west ukrainians with their dibious russophilia, while Carpathian villages accept new and new coffins and invalids from war zone.
Of course, in this situation, there will be dislike for refugees.

 

[Athanasiy]

The ideal of a real man is certainly not a refugee but a warrior. Nordic type - the eagle, the wolf, the lion. The idea of a man as a warrior is relevant at all times and even in the 21st century. They say that the true type of the real “medieval European warrior” lives in the Caucasus. When the first Chechen war with Russia began in Chechnya (which little Chechnya won against Russia) A lot of Chechens returned to their homeland. There was a call from Johar Dudayev to sell the house, the cow, and buy weapons to defend its land. There were not a few prosperous families in the Diaspora who abandoned their business and came to their homeland to fight…very many of them died. The same can be said about the Georgians, about the warlike Kurds, аbout Ukrainian soldiers-volunteers who, instead of visa-free travel to the EU, have turned, protecting the integrity of their state in the conflict zone. Now I do not pester about who is right and who is to blame for the war, I am talking about the real man’s spirit of the warrior instead of the female spirit to ask for help and protection. All the same, the person who runs away and asks for refuge instead of standing up with weapons to fight to death…“refugee” is more from a woman than from a real man.

 

[Athanasiy]

Many refugees die in the sea without reaching the shore, this is of course awful, but it is much more noble to die with a weapon in hand.
Perhaps the bodies docking to the shore testify to the reality of what will happen to those who flee instead of fighting to death.

 

[josie_L]

Always the Russian apologist, I see.

 

[Athanasiy]

Imagine how miserable men look like refugees seeking asylum in comparison with these women warriors.

“Female Kurdish fighters announce new training academies for Arab women to take on Isis in Syria”
independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/female-kurdish-fighters-ypj-set-up-new-training-academies-arab-yazidi-women-to-fight-isis-a7508951.html

 

[LeafByNiggle]

The ideal of a real man is certainly not a refugee but a warrior. Nordic type - the eagle, the wolf, the lion. The idea of a man as a warrior is relevant at all times and even in the 21st century. They say that the true type of the real “medieval European warrior” lives in the Caucasus. When the first Chechen war with Russia began in Chechnya (which little Chechnya won against Russia) A lot of Chechens returned to their homeland. There was a call from Johar Dudayev to sell the house, the cow, and buy weapons to defend its land. There were not a few prosperous families in the Diaspora who abandoned their business and came to their homeland to fight…very many of them died. The same can be said about the Georgians, about the warlike Kurds, аbout Ukrainian soldiers-volunteers who, instead of visa-free travel to the EU, have turned, protecting the integrity of their state in the conflict zone. Now I do not pester about who is right and who is to blame for the war, I am talking about the real man’s spirit of the warrior instead of the female spirit to ask for help and protection. All the same, the person who runs away and asks for refuge instead of standing up with weapons to fight to death…“refugee” is more from a woman than from a real man.

Well, then what should we say about Joseph who fled to Egypt with Mary and Jesus instead of standing up to Herod and fighting with a weapon in his hand like a real man?

 

[Athanasiy]

Well, then what should we say about Joseph who fled to Egypt with Mary and Jesus instead of standing up to Herod and fighting with a weapon in his hand like a real man?

There is much more presence of the Lord there where there is a cry, where there are peacemakers, where salt has not lost its force.
I make comparisons in sacrifices and sometimes these comparisons ashame the pseudo-refugees.There are Christian missions in countries where conflicts occur. Men serve in charity projects, educational projects. A family man is obliged to take care of his wife and children.
I’m not saying that everyone should be a warrior.
But there is a difference between those who sacrifice themselves for the sake of higher ideals, аnd those arabs who pretend to be a Syrian refugees and live for example on a German social money, firmly believing that Europeans owe him.

 

[Athanasiy]

In the Ukrainian conflict, all the blame lies with Putin.
Putin’s Russia produces refugees.
Millions of refugees were forced to leave their homes because Putin attributed them to the identity of the adherents of the Russian world.( Russkiy Myr)
Yes, newly arrived refugees who pump up their sleeves bring a lot of positive things to place where they live.
They are forced to work longer, to work better, be more economical, they integrate, sometimes come to despair, therefore of course, the material assistance of the charitable christians and people of goodwill is very important for them , but the whole problem of refugees in Ukraine lies with the aggressor - Putin’s Russia.