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gracepoole
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Why is refugees in quotation marks?
Actually, what I mean is there’s so much that’s logically wrong with those comparisons that it’s impossible to know where to begin. That’s kind of why I used that language.
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gracepoole
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Straw man! Ad hominem! Virtue signaling! Nefarious liberal plot!Strawman.
What fun.
(FYI for future rants: straw man is two words)
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xNoOnex
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Considering our faith is at odds with capital punishment, I’m not entirely sure how one can claim to be Catholic and be in favor of murdering immigrants, even if they are illegal, with land mines.
Racialism is also contrary to our faith. We’re all human beings.
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Sojourner003
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dvdjs
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Probably not. Without the elite white liberals who would bar the mob from from slamming the door in the faces of the tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free?
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dvdjs
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Did he? I googled see the same claim in many places by his opponents, but haven’t yet reached the original comment to see the exact quote in context. Do yo be chance have it?
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Sojourner003
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I don’t doubt that.
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TheAmazingGrace
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“White” is not a race. It’s a melanin phenotype.
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TheAmazingGrace
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I’ve never heard anyone say that. Even if someone did, are you saying that you think it’s okay?
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TheAmazingGrace
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Coming from the person who’s constantly referring to “the regressive left,” that’s quite hypocritical.Strawman.
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Seamus_L
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I wonder if Mr Macron will lift the State of Emergency in July ? By then it’ll have been 20 months ! I know, apparently they’re slow learners as this latest election proved.
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SuperLuigi
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Oh yeah, forgot about that.
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OraLabora
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The root cause of problems, real or perceived, with immigrants is not a laissez-faire immigration policy.
The root cause is that the Western world has sowed the seeds of its own demise by being unwilling to reproduce beyond the replacement rate. For the first time ever in Canada we have more pensioners than children. And the root cause of that, is the de-Christianisation of Western society.
The Catholic sexual ethic isn’t just good morals. It is prophetic, in particular Humae Vitae. Blessed Paul VI was clearly a prophet on this issue.
Now, the only way we can keep our societies functioning is with immigration. We’re crashing our societies just so we can enjoy sex without responsibilities.
The root cause is that the Western world has sowed the seeds of its own demise by being unwilling to reproduce beyond the replacement rate. For the first time ever in Canada we have more pensioners than children. And the root cause of that, is the de-Christianisation of Western society.
The Catholic sexual ethic isn’t just good morals. It is prophetic, in particular Humae Vitae. Blessed Paul VI was clearly a prophet on this issue.
Now, the only way we can keep our societies functioning is with immigration. We’re crashing our societies just so we can enjoy sex without responsibilities.
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Seamus_L
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I can’t think of a scarier solution then proposing that the answer to fewer Christians in your country is more Muslims.
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JackVk
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Only one problem: there is a 0% chance of these migrants converting to Catholicism. Their endgame is to establish a caliphate in Europe.
Stop trying to spin this as a good thing for the faith. The only groups this benefits are the global banksters and the jihadists.
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OraLabora
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You have completely misread me. I did not say it was a “good thing for the faith”.
I said that abandoning the faith was the root cause of relying too much on immigration to replace the children we are not having.
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xNoOnex
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Wait… So all migrants are Muslim, now?
Can someone explain how I have friends that are Syrian refugees from back in the day that have Catholic heritage?
And yes, I know most are Muslim; but as a Michigander, I also know that they can assimilate into a new culture. I mean, we have the highest Arab population outside of the Middle East and don’t have many problems.
I’d also be curious to see how the crime rate of the poor in some of this European countries, compared to the crime rate of migrants exclusively.
Can someone explain how I have friends that are Syrian refugees from back in the day that have Catholic heritage?
And yes, I know most are Muslim; but as a Michigander, I also know that they can assimilate into a new culture. I mean, we have the highest Arab population outside of the Middle East and don’t have many problems.
I’d also be curious to see how the crime rate of the poor in some of this European countries, compared to the crime rate of migrants exclusively.
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OraLabora
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Good point. I would also add that I have worked with several Muslims in my IT career. Most are here not to establish a “caliphate”. Most are year because life in their countries of origin (the ones I knew were mostly of Algerian, Syrian and Lebanese origin) was miserable and they just wanted to escape the poverty and misery. None of them ever tried to convert me. Not even close, but I did have some good dialogues with one Muslim in particular. You know what, she just wanted to raise her family and quietly practice her faith, like I do. They all showed more respect to my faith and prayer life than any of the secular Canadians I worked with. The one I dialogued was a colleague in the same department, and she would quietly whisper “I’ll come back later, I see you are praying” when she would come to see me on a tech issue and I had my breviary open.
I also know an Egyptian immigrant. He is a family doctor, one of my wife’s colleagues.
He is not Muslim. He is a Coptic Christian. And he’s married to another immigrant, a Chilean Catholic.
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ATraveller
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Most Muslim migrants headed for Europe don’t have that in their heads. Will Islamic influences grow? Yes.
There are growing fears Islam will have a bigger role in national life and identity across the West. And given the fact Christianity has been under assault for the last half century or so across the West, many are seeing the double standard (Islam good, Christianity bad) and the fact removing Christianity has only left a void in many parts of the West for far-right ideologies to fill it that used to be occupied by charity and a solid foundation and identity found in the Christian faith. Also, the solidification of Islam and displacement of Christianity in North Africa and much of the Middle East didn’t come only by violence from the tribes from Arabia. Islam did do it ‘by the sword’ but that’s half the explanation. They fear this will happen with Western Europe and even America (the former significantly more likely than the latter).
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SuperLuigi
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I never said they all were and they don’t have to be. The issue is more related to a mass movement of migrants (particularly young men) has not very often gone all that great for the natives.
In Italy there are problems with Romanians as well.
I’m not sure that anyone can explain your own anecdotal evidence to you
The Muslims in the USA are more educated than those in Europe. In fact, on the whole they fare better than the average white American even with all of their apparent “privilege”.
It is a serious issue of culture shock when displaced, uneducated refugees from a socially conservative, worn-torn nation with young, impressionable male minds are placed in a promiscuously cosmopolitan area.
Crime has increased exponentially in Europe in the last 20 years. Feel free to blame every one from American footballers to Muslim migrants to Eastern Europeans. They’ve all had a hand in it.
A big reason this has been going on is because even in poor areas, the crime is low, especially compared to America. That’s also a reason it’s such a big deal, because the police aren’t used to dealing with this and have become too PC as have the courts. It would be such a great help if they would just step up and enforce the law. Protesters and migrants get away with waayyy to much.
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