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The devil makes work for idle hands to do, find another occupation…a suggestion would be prayer, and when you get bored with that, pray some more.
The woman clearly notified him of her boundary: she does NOT want a man who is into porn.You’re exaggerating. There are plenty of counterexamples in marriages that survive infidelity, which is a significantly worse lie than lying about having looked at porn.
I’m not saying there is anything wrong with her boundary. I’m saying that relationships can recover from things like this and things worse than this.The woman clearly notified him of her boundary: she does NOT want a man who is into porn.
It does not matter in the least what anybody else might think about her personal boundary. It doesn’t matter if anybody else’s personal boundaries don’t match hers. She is entitled to have personal boundaries and she is entitled to demand that her personal boundaries be respected.
“**i have no control over this **” - actually, you are the only one who can exercise control over this. Have you not been in pain all along? Perhaps, your girlfriend has given you a gift. Perhaps she loved you enough to know that you weren’t going to overcome your addiction if she stayed with you. She gave you several chances, you gave her reason to trust you, then, you lied to cover up that you really had not changed. If I perceive this wrong, please correct me.Thank you all for your replies i realized that no one knows what is going to happen, or what should happen but the most important thing is to place it in God’s hand and give up your pain to him. At least thats what i’m trying to do its really hard to say **i have no control over this **any more (or ever had control) and as a matter of fact the reason i’m in this mess is because i thought i could control it i should have been a better man and not lied. they say the truth will set you free at least if i had told the truth and it didn’t work out i could say i did all that i could.
Flyingfish is right. I knew what FF was saying.I’m not saying there is anything wrong with her boundary. I’m saying that relationships can recover from things like this and things worse than this.
I agree i am the only one who can control my issue with porn. I was speaking of control with what she chooses to do with the relationship after two weeks. I have been working through the porn issues for months i understand that it involves a complete rewiring of me, a better relationship with God, and self control and if no contact with me is what it it so be it.“**i have no control over this **” - actually, you are the only one who can exercise control over this. Have you not been in pain all along? Perhaps, your girlfriend has given you a gift. Perhaps she loved you enough to know that you weren’t going to overcome your addiction if she stayed with you. She gave you several chances, you gave her reason to trust you, then, you lied to cover up that you really had not changed. If I perceive this wrong, please correct me.
The ball is now in your court. Help is available only if you choose to get it.If you “place it in God’s hand”, then, do nothing yourself, you are likely to stay in the same rut you are in right now. I am reminded of the quote by Saint Augustine - “Pray as though everything depended on God. Work as though everything depended on you.”
Maybe you can get back together, but, I would have no expectations of it. You need to be right with God before you can be right for anyone else, as do we all. That is why so many relationships fail.
You remain in my prayers.
God bless,
Linda
Maybe you need to change your attitude toward porn. It sounds like you have a very defeatist approach of “I’m an addict, I need rewiring”. Addiction to porn is not like addiction to heroin, you’re not going to get seizures or hallucinations or risk dying if you suddenly stop. The psychiatric’s associating’s diagnostic manual doesn’t even recognize it as an addiction.I agree i am the only one who can control my issue with porn. I was speaking of control with what she chooses to do with the relationship after two weeks. I have been working through the porn issues for months i understand that it involves a complete rewiring of me, a better relationship with God, and self control and if no contact with me is what it it so be it.
For very different reasons, I consider myself ‘relationship-challenged’. Spiritual Direction and monthly Confession has been helpful for me. It is good to have someone who tells me what I need to hear, as opposed to what I may want to hear. We are all works in progress!I agree i am the only one who can control my issue with porn. I was speaking of control with what she chooses to do with the relationship after two weeks. I have been working through the porn issues for months i understand that it involves a complete rewiring of me, a better relationship with God, and self control and if no contact with me is what it it so be it.
I have further realized that maybe i should focus on being truthful in all situations not just the ones where i wont have to face consequences. I will be taking the time she has given me(as a gift) to work on my honesty even when the consequences will be hard or painful.
I have sought help and will continue as i have said earlier. If the relationship works or not i will keep working at this as i know it will only make me a better person. As for placing it in Gods hands i was referring to my pain i know that my pain comes from porn but i need to place my trust in God with this whole issue. I know i cant get ride of this on my own i have tried the only time i have been successful for any amount of time with staying away from porn is when i turned to God but that i have to work on developing this relationship a lot more.
thanks for your prayers
Like it or not, the young woman has made a very holy decision by telling you “Bye.”I agree i am the only one who can control my issue with porn. I was speaking of control with what she chooses to do with the relationship after two weeks. I have been working through the porn issues for months i understand that it involves a complete rewiring of me, a better relationship with God, and self control and if no contact with me is what it it so be it.
I have further realized that maybe i should focus on being truthful in all situations not just the ones where i wont have to face consequences. I will be taking the time she has given me(as a gift) to work on my honesty even when the consequences will be hard or painful.
I have sought help and will continue as i have said earlier. If the relationship works or not i will keep working at this as i know it will only make me a better person. As for placing it in Gods hands i was referring to my pain i know that my pain comes from porn but i need to place my trust in God with this whole issue. I know i cant get ride of this on my own i have tried the only time i have been successful for any amount of time with staying away from porn is when i turned to God but that i have to work on developing this relationship a lot more.
thanks for your prayers
This. A million times this! Well put.Dating is not supposed to require a lot of work.
i never said that all young men indulge in this habit what i said wasLike it or not, the young woman has made a very holy decision by telling you “Bye.”
She’s not your parent or counselor or priest. She should never has to be patient w/ this.
She needs to protect her own life, self-respect and goals.
Any time you view porn, you diminish her value. She becomes just another “body.”
As for lies, porn itself is a lie.
Forego lies.
Forego porn.
No decent young woman will want you with a porn habit in your life.
Ask yourself what interested you BEFORE porn grabbed you?
What did you used to do with your spare time?
If you imagine that all young men indulge this habit, guess what? You’re dead wrong.
She knows that - so good for her.
dating isn’t a lot of work but every relationship is the grass is always greener where you water it.This. A million times this! Well put.
Again, I must admire a woman who has the self-respect to tell you “bye.”i never said that all young men indulge in this habit what i said was
“I’ve heard of and know a few men who don’t look at porn, However, i know of absolutely no one my age who doesn’t, or isn’t sleeping with 10 women a month. i am not using that as an excuse for me if i was i wouldn’t have written the first post bc it would have ended along time ago”
People CAN wait for others who struggle there is so much more to individuals than just their negative aspects. if everyone always waited for the other to work through their issues would anyone be together? stats show that 70% of men look at porn that 70% is giant. and well whats to say the other 30% dont have something going on in their life that is a struggle. HELL i know priests who have or currently struggle with issues surrounding this, it never goes away its hard wired in MAN to be attracted to women but its how we feed this or dwell on it that makes it negative. NO ONE is perfect all that can be asked for is that we each continue to strive our best and rely on God to make it through each day.
now just because I DON’T KNOW OF ANYONE MY AGE doesn’t mean there isn’t. People here assume so much. It’s almost as if someone struggles with something in their life that others dont like people here assume they are a bad person. especially when they admit to the problem and are seeking or have sought help and say they are going to work on it. not eveyone is the same but people here are painted in black and white there is no yellow or brown or ect… here.
Wow. Don’t care much for the integrity of women, do you?She didnt turn you down because of your porn use. She turned you down either because you werent attractive enough, werent man enough overall, or you didnt have enough money. Women put up with a lot of stuff from men if they have these three qualities or one of them in abundance. Ive seen women stay with men that abuse them because the sex is too good to give up. Ive seen fat women become thin and leave their less attractive husband to trade up for someone more attractive. Your porn use didnt have much to do with it. Women dont care about porn. Its just something they say they dont like but complain about simply for the sake of complaining. Women do not like men to tell them about their porn use because it makes them look like perverts and when they keep telling the women she feels like she is the man in the relationship. The man’s job is to only tell the women what she NEEDS to know. A man is there is help the women get through her emotional drama by being strong. If a man needs help with a problem he needs to go to another man because women arent equipped to help men. They have enough drama of their own. They want a man that calm and steady. If you have enough money or looks, they will overlook that but they wont give you love. They will just use you. In lieu of money or looks, you need to man up. Women EXPECT you to watch porn. Your job is to make them feel as if you dont care as much about the women in the porn. If a woman asks if you watch it give as brief an answer as you can and move on. If she complains, ignore it. She wants you to ignore her complaints. It makes her feel as if the problem is under control and gives her a project to work on. She may nag you but you only say the bare minimum and be done with it. She may complain but she will respect and love you.
DISCLAIMER: Do not watch porn if you can avoid it. Simply, do not share your struggle with a woman. They wont respect you for it and it will make them mad. Be a man and try to deal with women as little as you can. God made women the way they are for a reason. I do not understand that reason but God does. He created them to be drama queens and complainers so consider it God’s way of telling you that he is in charge of everything.
I will keep you in my prayers. I pray that you are not married or in a relationship. And, on the odd chance that you are, I especially pray for that woman.She didnt turn you down because of your porn use. She turned you down either because you werent attractive enough, werent man enough overall, or you didnt have enough money. Women put up with a lot of stuff from men if they have these three qualities or one of them in abundance. Ive seen women stay with men that abuse them because the sex is too good to give up. Ive seen fat women become thin and leave their less attractive husband to trade up for someone more attractive. Your porn use didnt have much to do with it. Women dont care about porn. Its just something they say they dont like but complain about simply for the sake of complaining. Women do not like men to tell them about their porn use because it makes them look like perverts and when they keep telling the women she feels like she is the man in the relationship. The man’s job is to only tell the women what she NEEDS to know. A man is there is help the women get through her emotional drama by being strong. If a man needs help with a problem he needs to go to another man because women arent equipped to help men. They have enough drama of their own. They want a man that calm and steady. If you have enough money or looks, they will overlook that but they wont give you love. They will just use you. In lieu of money or looks, you need to man up. Women EXPECT you to watch porn. Your job is to make them feel as if you dont care as much about the women in the porn. If a woman asks if you watch it give as brief an answer as you can and move on. If she complains, ignore it. She wants you to ignore her complaints. It makes her feel as if the problem is under control and gives her a project to work on. She may nag you but you only say the bare minimum and be done with it. She may complain but she will respect and love you.
DISCLAIMER: Do not watch porn if you can avoid it. Simply, do not share your struggle with a woman. They wont respect you for it and it will make them mad. Be a man and try to deal with women as little as you can. God made women the way they are for a reason. I do not understand that reason but God does. He created them to be drama queens and complainers so consider it God’s way of telling you that he is in charge of everything.
That’s misguided and misinformed advice. I especially pray for any woman who has ever been or may ever be in a relationship with you, mjs. Women DO care about porn use by their boyfriends or husbands, and they DO feel EXTREMELY degraded AND BETRAYED by it. You may want to think otherwise in an attempt to condone it, but you are not correct.She didnt turn you down because of your porn use. She turned you down either because you werent attractive enough, werent man enough overall, or you didnt have enough money. Women put up with a lot of stuff from men if they have these three qualities or one of them in abundance. Ive seen women stay with men that abuse them because the sex is too good to give up. Ive seen fat women become thin and leave their less attractive husband to trade up for someone more attractive. Your porn use didnt have much to do with it. Women dont care about porn. Its just something they say they dont like but complain about simply for the sake of complaining. Women do not like men to tell them about their porn use because it makes them look like perverts and when they keep telling the women she feels like she is the man in the relationship. The man’s job is to only tell the women what she NEEDS to know. A man is there is help the women get through her emotional drama by being strong. If a man needs help with a problem he needs to go to another man because women arent equipped to help men. They have enough drama of their own. They want a man that calm and steady. If you have enough money or looks, they will overlook that but they wont give you love. They will just use you. In lieu of money or looks, you need to man up. Women EXPECT you to watch porn. Your job is to make them feel as if you dont care as much about the women in the porn. If a woman asks if you watch it give as brief an answer as you can and move on. If she complains, ignore it. She wants you to ignore her complaints. It makes her feel as if the problem is under control and gives her a project to work on. She may nag you but you only say the bare minimum and be done with it. She may complain but she will respect and love you.
DISCLAIMER: Do not watch porn if you can avoid it. Simply, do not share your struggle with a woman. They wont respect you for it and it will make them mad. Be a man and try to deal with women as little as you can. God made women the way they are for a reason. I do not understand that reason but God does. He created them to be drama queens and complainers so consider it God’s way of telling you that he is in charge of everything.