End Times Speculation XXIII (ver. 2.0)

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Since Horn didn’t understand that the prophecy of the Popes is composed of 113 predictions and not 112, I would be doubtful that he can correctly interpret more complicated prophecy.
 
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Ya know, at the general judgement, we get to actually see who was truly trying to do the right thing and who was rationalizing their will into existence.

As Spock would say, “Interesting.”
 
Catholicism isn’t complicated…people are complicated and dramatic when self-seeking.

“Love doesn’t mean doing extraordinary or heroic things. It means knowing how to do ordinary things with tenderness.”
― Jean Vanier, [Community And Growth]


Jesus is coming again.
 
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The OT prophets mention some kind of world-wide disaster that constitutes YHWH’s judgement of mankind as well as YHWH’s making Himself known on earth. In my opinion the build up to this event may be characterized as the “End Times” or the “Last Days of the World.”
Again, in my opinion, this disaster is synonymous with the return Jesus who is, according to our theology, an integral aspect of YHWH. Since Jesus said that His return would be like a thief in the night, we ought to ask ourselves how the predicted disaster of the OT might be sneaking up on us. I think that a global nuclear war is the obvious answer. Most seem to have discounted it as a possibility, and very few understand it as constituting YHWH’s judgement of humanity.
 
Just wondering if anyone else here is praying the Rosary for the conversion of Muslims to the Catholic Faith during the month of Ramadan?
 
Muzhik said:
Just wondering if anyone else here is praying the Rosary for the conversion of Muslims to the Catholic Faith during the month of Ramadan?
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I had not thought about that, but that is a great idea. I will start this.
 
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Bartholo said:
I had not thought about that, but that is a great idea. I will start this.
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Well, Ramadan started on May 5 and will end on June 4 this year, but you can pray a 54-day Rosary Novena for that request at any time. I’m also looking to see if a novena to St. Charbel of Lebanon might be effective.
 
What are people’s views on the 1000 year reign regarding the end times ?

The Catholic Church seems to have an amillenialist view from what I gather. But I know some have different views on this, particularly amongst the other protestant denominations, and even some Catholics.

Are we already experiencing the 1000 year reign of Christ or do we have that yet to come?

I see a common argument regarding whether it is before the New Heaven and Earth, or happening right now.
 
Horizon87 said:
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Understand that Chiliasm (from the Greek word for one thousand) is a heresy. It began in the 400s and became so popular that St. Augustine wrote against it and formulated the four main theories of end-times that are prevalent in most Christian churches. It taught that there would be a 1,000 year period where all the saints would be allowed all the sex 'n drugs 'n rock-and-roll that they had denied themselves in life, after which they would enter heaven. It actually has a lot in common with Mohammed’s view of heaven, which came about 100 years later.

The Early Church Fathers all taught that there would be a period of what could best be described as perfect health for all of creation: fruits and vegetables would grow year-round, and a man who died at 95 would be mourned as one who died too soon. Some of the descriptions make me think that the “1,000-year-reign” (which may or may not be a literal 1,000 years) will be one where the veil that covers the Eucharist, preventing us from directly sensing and experiencing Jesus, will be greatly thinned or removed. IOW, when we would rec’v the Eucharist in Communion, we would directly sense and experience the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus entering us and filling us.
 
There are many way out and odd ideas about end times. Season 6 episode 4 of Hoarders depicts a woman that believes she will be raptured. She fills 2 dwellings with ‘supplies’ for those who won’t make it to heaven with her. I realize that most hoarders are mentally ill but this particular episode shows how bazaar people can get when caught up with false ideas about end times.
Personally, I prefer to hear the Gospel as my guideline. The End of the Present World and Mysteries of the Future Life by Father Charles Armijon is a good anchor.
 
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Interesting that the Holy Roman Empire was about a thousand year reign.

Napoléon put an end to that. I’m still trying to sort out the politics and reasons for the French revolution. Was it primarily motivated by a hatred for the church? I was reading some of Marie Antoinette’s letters after captured, and it certainly seems so. Nostradamus claims there are 3 antichrists, who’ve later been identified as Napoléon, Hitler, and…? There are bigger, badder dictators than Napoléon, but it seems he had more of an impact on the direction of history and the church. I don’t give much stock to Nostradamus, heard his visions were inspired by the occult, anyhow. And they’re a bit too obscure and interpretive for me.
 
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Interesting that the Holy Roman Empire was about a thousand year reign.
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The problem is that the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.

Pretty much all of the wars and revolutions in that period from around 1790 to 1917 were Masonic in origin. The French Revolution linked the RCC to mismanagement by the French monarchy, and so had to be destroyed along with them.

Germany had its wars of unification to unite all of the small German principalities, etc. under Prussian rule. (All those Grimms fairy tales with the kingdoms and princes were based in fact – you could, in one day’s walk, cross 3 different royal nations.) This was a Protestant rule, which within a decade began suppressing the Church, starting in Bavaria. By “suppressing” I mean the Reich shut down Catholic grade schools and seminaries, shut down or restricted Catholic newspapers and magazines, and more, all under the heading of “Kulturkampf” or Culture War. It was ended only with a Concordat between the Vatican and the Reich, but remained uneasy for decades.

There were the Italian Wars of Unification which were led by Masonic forces dedicated to destroying the Papal States. This was a section of land in the middle of the Italian peninsula of land under Papal rule, that had been given to the Church over the centuries. When the wars ended the Pope became “the prisoner of the Vatican”. Once assuming the throne, he could never leave the grounds of the Vatican or he would be arrested for treason against the Italian state. There were multiple Concordats proposed whereby Italy would reimburse the Vatican for the loss of land, but they all required that the Pope submit to being an ordinary citizen of Italy, and so were rejected. (You’ll find a similar situation today in Turkey, where the head of the Greek Orthodox Church must get Turkish government permission to leave his residence.) It was only in the 1920s under Mussolini that the Concordat was signed that created the Vatican City State, recognizing the Pope as a legal sovereign of that territory.

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Last but not least was the destruction of the Austrio-Hungarian Empire by Allied forces in WW1. The spark that started the war was launched by members of Masonic lodges in Slovakia. The Empire was staunchly Catholic. The war could have ended a whole year earlier, but the Masons said no. Emperor Karl had made a peace proposal that would have created a type of federal Empire, very much like the British Commonwealth. He had asked the Vatican to forward it to the responsible parties, as all sides considered the Church to be honest brokers. President Wilson, though, was a committed Mason and general all-around bigot, and refused to consider any peace proposal that had been touched by the Church, and had dedicated himself to destroying that Catholic empire. As a result, the war continued for at least another year, uncounted millions died, and we wound up with multiple small nations which were all absorbed by the Soviet Union and were behind the Iron Curtain.

Even America fell victim to this force, but that’s a topic for another rant.
 
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President Wilson, though, was a committed Mason and general all-around bigot, and refused to consider any peace proposal that had been touched by the Church, and had dedicated himself to destroying that Catholic empire.
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I’ve never read any of Dr. Marshall’s books. This could be a good time.
 
Nelka said:
When is the great monarch arriving?

After Catholicism has been badly beaten?
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Hopefully we can avoid that. I don’t follow prophesy so strict that I would expect some of these things to happen absolutely, as if it were chiseled in stone. I believe God wants us to overcome our difficulties and change the future as if prophesy was meant to be a warning.
 
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The Church, “The Divine Revelation” of Jesus Christ did Reign for 1,000
years, among fallible people, families, and rulers great and small.
The history of Europe certainly seemed like the battles in Israel
during salvation history.
Had the Leaders listened to the likes of Francis of Assisi things would have gone better amidst all of the socioeconomic political intrigue.
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But since the mid 1800s, the exalting of human intelligence for
freedom, equality, & fraternity over self evident truths & rights given
inalienably by our Creator, Laws of Nature, Nature’s God (ref. U.S.
Declaration of Independence) has continued in George Orwell’s
Animal Farm ways a ‘naturalist’ secular humanist dictatorship
of moral relativism (as the wind blows for emotionally charged stirring
up the populace) culture of death ‘oligarchy’ group, that even gets
power by consent of some who are Catholic/Christian & Pro-life.
How?
Well, they know how to paint the cause of the poor & social justice,
refusing reform on ‘bread,’ foster & encourage the ‘circuses’ (distractions,
arts&entertainment) to give them propaganda support. So many have
their heart strings played with so well, they are seemingly oblivious to the switch of this ‘oligarchy’ group from reasoned positions to radical ones for the purposes of using the poor & social justice to obtain/keep/expand power.
And its the lack of a voice among every stewardship level in The Church;
and the podiums, and the highways & hedgerows of neighborhoods that
let the status quo stay, especially with adjudication of judges put in for decades.
Hoping that people like Dr. Taylor Marshall will raise enough awareness that people will listen to things like Fr. Larry Richard’s “Enough.” And listen to Bishop Daniel Jenky’s 2012 Letter all the Priests he Shepherded had to read in their parishes before the election.
Catholic Orphanages closing, children force fed the secularist playing at heart strings morality opposing The Laws of Nature. And so much lukewarmness; and people thinking we are powerless. Only silence in the face of evil makes someone powerless.
Peace.
 
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