End Times Speculation XXIII (ver. 2.0)

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Well, yes it does, since this Apostasy does not involve one or two Believers but with entire sections of the Faithful falling away, not in great sheets but in dribs and drabs; through small acts of disbelief; through saying that they are “spiritual but not religious”; through saying that they can’t hold with a Church which teaches one thing but whose leaders practice abominations.

My Faith is with Christ Jesus and with the Church He founded, not in the actions and sins of mere mortals who have the titles and offices related to that Church, and yet seem to be not just without belief but without faith.
Yes… Via the FAITH which JESUS Speaks of
I’ve found the Pearl of Great Worth - and His Mystical Body - The Church

It does not sit upon Signs of End Times
such as THE APOSTASY and other Signs given to us by our Lord…
or any - including any/some of the leadership - who may be Astray.

That/They?

Serve as if akin to confirmation and a buoying and a preserving of FAITH
 
The locusts are indeed God’s angel army which are trillions of them in a Kingdom of God. Many have the crowns on their heads like kings. They have claws and needle at the end of their tails and communicate by thoughts. That all I can reveal.
 
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The following is a portion of the epilogue of Dietrich von Hildebrand (1899-1977) book titled Trojan Horse in the City of God. Here, he summarizes his book and interestingly defines his perception of a false prophet.
I wish to conclude this book with an appeal to all those whose faith is not corroded to beware of these false prophets who want to extradite Christ to the secular city in a way analogous to Judas’ betrayal of Jesus into the hands of His persecutors.

Let us recall the marks of these false prophets. He is a false prohet who denies original sin and mankind’s need of redemption and thereby undermines the meaning of Christ’s death on the Cross. He is not a true Christian who no longer sees that redemption of the world through Christ is the source of true happiness and that nothing can be compared to this one glorious fact.

He is a false prophet who no longer accepts the absolute primacy of the first commandment of Christ—to love God above all things—and who claims that our love of God can manifest itself eclusively in our love of neighbor. He is a false prophet who no longer understands that to long for the I-Thou union with Christ and for transformation in Christ is the very meaning of our life. He is a false prophet who claims that morality reveals itself not primarily in man’s relationship with God, but in those things that concern human welfare. And he has fallen prey to the teaching of the false prophets who only sees in the wrong done our neighbor our injury to him and remains blind to the offense against God that this wrong implies.

He who no longer sees the radical difference that exists beween charity and humanitarian benevolence has become deaf to the message of Christ.

He who is more impressed and thrilled by “cosmic processes,” “evolution,” and the speculations of science than by the reflection of Christ’s Sacred Humanity in a saint and by the victory over the world that the very existence of a saint embodies, is no longer filled with the Christian spirit. He who cares more for the earthly welfare of humanity than for its sanctifcation has lost the Christian view of the universe.

(passage from St. Cardinal Newman not included here but very good)

Beware of false prophets who ignore the repeated warnings of our Holy Father, Pope Paul VI, as well as the Holy See’s clear formulaton of the various heresies and miscoconceptions pervading the world today. Beware of those who try to drown the voice of the Vicar of Christ in noisy propaganda.

Nevertheless, as I said at the beginning of this book if my heart bleeds from seeing the ravages done in the vineyard of the Lord and from seeing the defilement of the sanctuary of the Church, I am yet full of hope, because our Lord has said: “The gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.” Matt.16:18
 
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The following is a portion of the epilogue of Dietrich von Hildebrand (1899-1977) book titled Trojan Horse in the City of God. Here, he summarizes his book and interestingly defines his perception of a false prophet
Which would be worse - believing that a false prophet was the real Messiah, or failing to recognize the real Messiah when he comes? I think failing to recognize the real Messiah may be the bigger problem, because he may not be at all like you imagine him to be.

As for believing in the wrong one - both the Bahais and the Ahmadis believe that their respective founder is the real Jesus returned. They are both wrong, but they are doing OK since their founders are not such bad guys after all.
 
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Which would be worse - believing that a false prophet was the real Messiah, or failing to recognize the real Messiah when he comes?
Clearly, believing that a false prophet was the real Messiah, as Scripture tells us in Acts 1:11 that Jesus will return in the same way as the apostles saw him leave, i.e., he will not simply pop up from nowhere and say “Here I am!” He will return in glory so that no on can possibly doubt that this is the Messiah!
 
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Which would be worse - believing that a false prophet was the real Messiah, or failing to recognize the real Messiah when he comes?
Clearly, believing that a false prophet was the real Messiah, as Scripture tells us in Acts 1:11 that Jesus will return in the same way as the apostles saw him leave, i.e., he will not simply pop up from nowhere and say “Here I am!” He will return in glory so that no on can possibly doubt that this is the Messiah!
Sure The Christ will return in glory, but what if for instance he returns as a Chinese person, would most people recognize him? What I mean is that people have preconceived ideas as to what he should look like. And if he does not look like that, many will reject him - this is a problem, don’t you think?
 
Nope, Jesus warns us about deceivers. He advises us to be prepared.
The Church offers basic guidelines for testing. Dietrich von Hildebrand nails it.
 
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Nope, Jesus warns us about deceivers. He advises us to be prepared.
The Church offers basic guidelines for testing. Dietrich von Hildebrand nails it.
You are right - I am absolutely sure that some one like Pope Francis will easily be able to identify who is the real deal and who is the deceiver, but I am not sure lay people will be as discerning.
 
He who cares more for the earthly welfare of humanity than for its sanctification has lost the Christian view of the universe. As Cardinal Newman said:

The church aims, not at making a show, but at doing a work. She regards this world, and all that is in it, as a mere shadow, as dust and ashes compared with the value of one single soul. She holds that unless She can, in Her own way, do good to souls, it is no use to Her doing anything… She considers the action of this world and the action of the soul simply incommensurate, viewed in their respective spheres; She would rather save the soul of one single wild bandit of Calabria or whining beggar of Palermo, than draw 100 lines of railroad through the length and breadth of Italy, or carry out a sanitary reform and its fullest details, in every city of Sicily except so far as these great national works tended to some spiritual good beyond them.
This passage includes the quote.
 
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You are right - I am absolutely sure that some one like Pope Francis will easily be able to identify who is the real deal and who is the deceiver, but I am not sure lay people will be as discerning.
Look. “Descending from the clouds in Glory.” That means bright lights and angels and trumpets. And you’re worrying about whether or not Central Casting found the right LOOK?! Not to mention that Jesus is Lord, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, meaning He is GOD!

Read Matt 17:1-7. It’s an account of the Transfiguration. Jesus shows His Glory, and suddenly Moses and Elijah are standing there talking with Jesus. Now, how to the three apostles KNOW they were Moses and Elijah? None of the accounts in any of the Gospels mention Jesus introducing the apostles to Moses and Elijah, so there was something inherent in the two (who, being in heaven, were also in glorified bodies) that immediately told the apostles who they were without asking. Jesus will not have to perform any fancy signs and wonders to establish His bona fides. Having created them, people will recognize their creator and will simply know.
 
Look. “Descending from the clouds in Glory.” That means bright lights and angels and trumpets.
It also says that he will come ‘like a thief in the night’. That does not sound like ‘from the clouds’ or with bright lights and trumpets. If he does come stealthily, recognizing who it is may not be so easy.
 
Exactly…

Throughout History - people have conspired/planned - to, eg., take over the world!

Alexander, Hitler, Globalists.

TODAY… “THEY”?

effectively Peddle the Label - “conspiracy theorist” so as to ward off attention
 
It also says that he will come ‘like a thief in the night’. That does not sound like ‘from the clouds’ or with bright lights and trumpets. If he does come stealthily, recognizing who it is may not be so easy.
in its context - that refers to the time… the day and hour…

When He Comes? Wowsa!

He’s given ‘signs’ to make note of…
 

WE are The Real Temple of God … .​

The Man of Lawlessness​

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Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and concerning our gathering together unto Him, we ask you 2 not to let your mind be quickly shaken or be troubled, neither in spirit nor by word, nor by letter coming as though from us, as if the day of Christ is already here. 3 Do not let anyone deceive you in any way.

For that Day will NOT Come until a falling away comes first
and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction…

… who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sits as God in a “temple” - showing himself as God.


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It also says that he will come ‘like a thief in the night’. That does not sound like ‘from the clouds’ or with bright lights and trumpets. If he does come stealthily, recognizing who it is may not be so easy.
If you’re going to use a quote to support your argument, you should use the full quote. There are a couple of places in Scripture that use this imagery: Rev 16:15 ; Mt 24:4244; 1 Thes 5:2. In each of these sections, “like a thief in the night” is used to describe how sudden and unexpected the return of the Lord will be, so we must constantly be vigilant. (NOT that He will be secretive about His return.)
 
Throughout History - people have conspired/planned - to, eg., take over the world!

Alexander, Hitler, Globalists.

TODAY… “THEY”?
Not to mention the Girl Scouts. I’ve never trusted their cookies… 🐍
 
I think it was one Wednesday Thursday Addams who first questioned their motives, wondering if the cookies were made with real Girl Scouts.
 
I think it was one Wednesday Thursday Addams who first questioned their motives, wondering if the cookies were made with real Girl Scouts.
… is that reflection-joke - part of what we might expect to see
as the Times draw nearer?

Throughout History - people have conspired/planned - to, eg., take over the world!

Alexander, Hitler, Globalists.
 
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