So you pick and choose choose who you will respond to saying they are wrong…Thank you but that has been suggested to me already.
I did not read any post on this thread where whomever stated that men have authority over women in general. I joined this discussion rather late and did not read each and every post so please provide a post # where the statement was made on this thread. I know what comprehensive means; I’m an English teacher. Nearly all does not mean every detail. Exhaustive does. It doesn’t matter you and I will both see this issue differently no matter what. I have scripture and 2000 years of Papal encyclicals and Church teaching helping me with my understanding. Please don’t think I have had an easy time accepting the idea and reality of submitting to my husband. I am highly educated, very opinionated, and generally like to have my own way. I have failed to submit a few times and in hindsight can see why I should have listened to my wonderful husband who was only looking out for my best interest.
Actually, I looked up the definition for myself and confirmed to myself that it was what I thought it was and I posted it to show you that as far as I am concerned the current Catechism covers all doctrine. I have not seen anyone show otherwise.
Please show me something that says the current Catechism overrides previous Catechisms and teachings. It would be impossible for one book to contain every detail of every
"1. On 11 October 1992, Pope John Paul II presented the Catechism of the Catholic Church to the faithful of the whole world, describing it as a “reference text”[1] for a catechesis renewed at the living sources of the faith. Thirty years after the opening of the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965), the desire for a catechism of all Catholic doctrine on faith and morals, which had been voiced in 1985 by the extraordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops, came to fulfilment. "
A reference text for catechesis is not the same as overriding or all encompassing document. There is a reason the CCC is filled with footnotes referencing it back to other Church documents including the Bible. That reason is that it would be impossible for one document to contain every detail of every Church teaching. The CCC is a reference and summary, not a primary source in itself. It does not present new teachings nor does it override other Church documents. It organizes by topic and summarizes doctrine and references back to original source(s) to more fully explain Church teaching in each area.
I can tell that you are not married - and you shouldn’t (nobody shouldn’t) rush it either.
You could almost say, what a lazy bum! But yeah, he valued his freedom from all those family obligations that would have faced him as a husband and HEAD (yup, HEAD 
) of family - by staying single, he could totally dedicate himself to God’s things. So, I have a lot of sympathy for guys who don’t rush into marriage or simply aren’t interested at all, even though we guys are supposed to have this “perk” of becoming the head of the family! And part of the Catechism is the footnotes which direct the reader to Scripture and Papal encyclicals which explain the doctrines. The Catechism will tell you that the family is the domestic church and that the purpose of marriage is to lead each other to holiness and to raise children. It is not possible for it to explain the “how to” of every teaching. If it was truly possible to fully explain doctrine so briefly there would be no need for lengthy encyclicals.
Yes, when explained that way it is rather absurd and I have never seen it being lived out in practice by faithful Catholic couples. Thankfully.
Yes, I agree. I wonder too why those who say this ‘headship’ is Church doctrine , then go on to ignore our current Catechism or say it is not complete as not holding all doctrine. .
Read the whole thing please, Compendium, notes, forword, everything. The link was to that not to the CCC.
Be an equal partner to her husband and since someone married 30 years would still be alive, would continue to do so. I too never heard of submission of the wife in relation to Catholic marriages until I joined CAFwhen I discovered to my horror this submission was of great importance to some Catholics here.
The references are for explaining. If it is not in the Catechism, it is not doctrine.
But 30 years ago, every shred of Church writing from Cathechism to Encyclicals to Scripture that dealt with marriage stated very explicitly that the husband is the head of the family. So in order to be obedient to Church teaching, would a couple not have had to acknowledge that? I maintain that the writings of JPII and the current catechism do not contradict that it any way, but because they are not as explicit that previous documents, until very recently there would have been no other possible view from Church teaching than the husband as head of the family.
It has nothing to do with superiority. It has to do with a role. For example, my boss is not superior to me in any way, but our roles at the workplace differ. My husband is not superior to me, but we have different roles in marriage. Some of our past Popes have not been wonderful people, but their office, their position, was still the head of the Church. Our Blessed Mother was certainly superior to St. Joseph, being free from sin, and yet God spoke to Joseph to take his wife and child to Egypt, and Mary followed him, even though I’m sure she wondered if it was the right thing to do.Yes, when explained that way it is rather absurd and I have never seen it being lived out in practice by faithful Catholic couples. Thankfully.
Men and women are equal in dignity just as man and wife are partners in marriage. A man does not suddenly become superior to his wife just because they are married.
Welcome to the 21st century, where women are allowed to leave the house, voice opinions and not be spanked by their husbands, etc. What a curse feminism has been.
But, your boss is your superior at work. While you are equal in human dignity because you are both people, you are not on equal footing in the workplace. You are subordinate and must ultimately obey the boss’ judgment, unless it is criminal/unethical or you want to lose your job. Your boss as perks you don’t have. Your boss goes to meetings you aren’t invited to. Your boss makes decisions about issues you don’t have the authority to make decisions about. You might do your job quite well, and have some flexibility and freedom, but your boss is still in charge of you. You are NOT your boss’ equal in the workplace.