EU-Ukraine-Russia: You think this war is somewhere far away?

[Athanasiy]

Two years ago nobody thought Ukraine would be fighting for its freedom in a hybrid war instigated by Russia.

This is a new type of war: with soldiers without identifying marks, civilians as a shield, local terrorism and diversions, propaganda, cyber-terrorism and diplomatic double-dealings. Is Europe ready for such a type of conflict?

You think this war is somewhere far away?
Ukraine is in the center of Europe!
goo.gl/9P1KKb

 

[Trident_H]

I think about you guys a lot. I mean I’ve always thought highly of the Ukrainian people. I think about you especially since it was pointed out that I’m using a Ukrainian trident for my avatar. I wish there was stuff I could do to help. I don’t know. I wish things like this didn’t have to happen. Please take care.

I wish you could have Peace.

-Trident

 

[JurisPrudens]

Two years ago nobody thought Ukraine would be fighting for its freedom in a hybrid war instigated by Russia.

This is a new type of war: with soldiers without identifying marks, civilians as a shield, local terrorism and diversions, propaganda, cyber-terrorism and diplomatic double-dealings. Is Europe ready for such a type of conflict?

You think this war is somewhere far away?
Ukraine is in the center of Europe!
goo.gl/9P1KKb

Europe is definitely NOT ready. Very few of Europeans are ready to fight for their country in case of war.

Even in Ukraine there are people who prefer to think that all that has nothing to do with them and to ignore the war.

 

[Athanasiy]

Russia accuses America in sponsored Ukrainian revolution, but it’s a fable for illiterate grandmothers.
Ukrainians dreamed of being part of Europe (EU) rather than an appendage of Russia, ( whose GDP is ten times less than the EU, and where justice, human rights,the social economy, respect for human unit, the rule of law , legal security…not even close compared with EU)
But in the end we have got the script from which all were horrified. A few years ago I would never have thought that a war even possible in Ukraine.

Here interesting links to understand the context of the situation.

Corruption you can’t imagine
goo.gl/zy4UmL

What is really happening in Ukraine
goo.gl/pfXwK4

Ukraine revolution ‘spiritual,’ pitting good against evil
goo.gl/pl803v

Ukraine–European Union Association Agreement
goo.gl/39M2Pg

Economy of the European Union
goo.gl/3rNJYM

 

[Athanasiy]

But now there is something more than the European integration.
Now the Pandora’s box is opened, and ancient and powerful spirit rises and gains strength

 

[Athanasiy]

CNN 6,000 have died in eastern Ukraine in less than a year, UN says
goo.gl/8OSGFK

 

[Athanasiy]

Ukraine After Euromaidan: What Difference Does a Revolution Make?
goo.gl/jj1V7g

 

[Athanasiy]

THE DRAMATIC BLINDNESS OF WESTERN ORTHODOX THEOLOGIANS TOWARDS RUSSIA
goo.gl/9ICPLa

 

[Athanasiy]

Daughter of Ukrainian hero solider received medal “For bravery and courage” of her killed father, who saved 30 men.

 

[Athanasiy]

And this is the photo of HERO father and daughter.
It was their last photo.
Glory to the Heroes of Ukraine!

 

[Trident_H]

This is so sad man. So sad. I wish we could do something about this. I just don’t know. It’s really not fair. Not at all.

Peace.

-Trident

 

[Athanasiy]

67 pages, 56 images, 170 sources quoted/notes. Ukraine‬ did nothing to provoke Russia. “Separatism” was engineered
goo.gl/ohvBq7

 

[Ridgerunner]

Sometimes it’s difficult to explain the obvious to people who just don’t want to believe it.

Putin’s government is a mafia-like organization, with many former KGB criminals in high places.

 

[ynotzap]

I often ask myself when a small number of people employ the means to destroy the majority, and control them by fear of death to the opposition, is the majority at fault, are they living right. Is it just the corruption of the leaders? Who empowered Hitler, or Stalin to dictate the death of so many. One knows that a small majority alone can’t do this unless the majority shared in the guilt. How are the morals of the majority? Here in America we are losing some of our freedoms. The family is being attacked. If I recall right, it was an atheistic communistic belief, to destroy the family, you conquer the country. We also suffer from financial polarization, there are the very rich, and so many poor. Hiltler had the S. S.ghestapo, Russia has the KGB, a gangster group that eliminated the competition, were are the masses Me thinks all is not well with the masses, and maybe they merit some of their corrupt officials. There was a message from Our Lady, Mary that we should pray for the conversion of Russia, and consecrate it to Her. As I understand it, this hasn’t been done
Corruption lies in the spiritual arena, for we are born corrupt, it’s endemic. this is why we need a Savior, Jesus Christ- the scene will continue until He is acknowledged. You can count on it!

 

[Athanasiy]

one more testimony for supporters/defenders of gangster capitalism
Karen Dawisha Interview at Merton College, Oxford University
goo.gl/3gVXqm

 

[Latias]

one more testimony for supporters/defenders of gangster capitalism
Karen Dawisha Interview at Merton College, Oxford University
goo.gl/3gVXqm

I am not surprised that Putin’s policies benefit a coterie of cronies or that there is some credibility to some of the intriguing conspiracy theories about Putin such as the late 90s apartment bombings. What I disliked about the video was her neoliberal point of view, saying that Russia is an economic basket case because it does neither emulate the economic system of the West nor tries to implement effective structural reforms to. She emphasized intellectual property rights in the video.

As for me, I like Putin because he supports Iran and Bashar al-Assad and the Syrian people.

I wonder how Putin has used the legacy of Stalin.

 

[ynotzap]

I am not surprised that Putin’s policies benefit a coterie of cronies or that there is some credibility to some of the intriguing conspiracy theories about Putin such as the late 90s apartment bombings. What I disliked about the video was her neoliberal point of view, saying that Russia is an economic basket case because it does neither emulate the economic system of the West nor tries to implement effective structural reforms to. She emphasized intellectual property rights in the video.

As for me, I like Putin because he supports Iran and Bashar al-Assad and the Syrian people.

I wonder how Putin has used the legacy of Stalin.

According to Stephen Cohen, Russian scholar, author of the book “The Victim Returns” refers to the reign of Joseph Stalin as "the other holocaust " During 24 years of history more innocent people died then in Hitler’s destruction of European Jews. His legacy has continued after his death in l953. Those that followed him had plenty of blood on their hands, members of his circle eg. Malenkov, Mikoyan, Kaganovich and Khrushcev to name some. Their are plenty of documents and surviving witnesses to testify to the role they played in the terror.
Some of the opinions of the Russian people say that Putin does not even come near to Stalin or has his power. Does Putin have the potential to destroy more of humanity than Stalin or Hitler, who I believe would have if they could have. Putin has the Atomic bomb, and some of his cronies do not hesitate to flaunt this fact before the U.S Would Putin do this, does humanity show this possibility, Judging from history, I would say “yes”.

It is also said by citizen, or citizens, that Putin has less control over people because you can always migrate from Russia. The USSR was considered a maximum security cell.
Lithuania’s president compares Putin to Hitler and Stalin, and the comparison is not going too far afield. The Lithuanian president stated, that it was a very objective description of what Putin is doing- he is using nationality as a pretext to conquer land with military means, this is what Hitler and Stalin did. I strongly believe that as long as Russia espouses atheistic communism, remaining ungodly, not loving it’s citizens, one and all, this scenario will continue. Russia, like many other countries need “Conversion” to Jesus Christ through the Bessed Mother, otherwise Satan will remain in control of his puppets. He truly is a “liar and a murderer” Russia was known to use truth as a tool, and to lie, stalling negotiations, and she certainly has a record of “murder” But God loves His creation, and I do believe He will intervene for His creation, so we pray with hope for the whole world in spite of it’s ignorance and weaknesses and corruptions.

 

[Latias]

According to Stephen Cohen, Russian scholar, author of the book “The Victim Returns” refers to the reign of Joseph Stalin as "the other holocaust " During 24 years of history more innocent people died then in Hitler’s destruction of European Jews. His legacy has continued after his death in l953. Those that followed him had plenty of blood on their hands, members of his circle eg. Malenkov, Mikoyan, Kaganovich and Khrushcev to name some. Their are plenty of documents and surviving witnesses to testify to the role they played in the terror.
Some of the opinions of the Russian people say that Putin does not even come near to Stalin or has his power. Does Putin have the potential to destroy more of humanity than Stalin or Hitler, who I believe would have if they could have. Putin has the Atomic bomb, and some of his cronies do not hesitate to flaunt this fact before the U.S Would Putin do this, does humanity show this possibility, Judging from history, I would say “yes”.

It is also said by citizen, or citizens, that Putin has less control over people because you can always migrate from Russia. The USSR was considered a maximum security cell.
Lithuania’s president compares Putin to Hitler and Stalin, and the comparison is not going too far afield. The Lithuanian president stated, that it was a very objective description of what Putin is doing- he is using nationality as a pretext to conquer land with military means, this is what Hitler and Stalin did. I strongly believe that as long as Russia espouses atheistic communism, remaining ungodly, not loving it’s citizens, one and all, this scenario will continue. Russia, like many other countries need “Conversion” to Jesus Christ through the Bessed Mother, otherwise Satan will remain in control of his puppets. He truly is a “liar and a murderer” Russia was known to use truth as a tool, and to lie, stalling negotiations, and she certainly has a record of “murder” But God loves His creation, and I do believe He will intervene for His creation, so we pray with hope for the whole world in spite of it’s ignorance and weaknesses and corruptions.

During the Cold War, the US flouted its neutron bombs to deal with Warsaw Pact tanks; Putin is just using nuclear weapons as a means of dealing with his inferior conventional forces.

Stalin did not kill tens of millions. That is just scurrilous propaganda. My question about Stalin concerns how he was regarded during the end of the Cold War, and what part did Putin’s administration play rehabilitating him, or that the Russians naturally admire him.

Here’s the truth about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact:

msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/research/furrvsminer0215.html

 

[GaryTaylor]

Stalin did not kill tens of millions.

The only propaganda is the numbers may indeed be higher.

A Soviet weekly newspaper today published the most detailed accounting of Stalin’s victims yet presented to a mass audience here, indicating that about 20 million died in labor camps, forced collectivization, famine and executions.

nytimes.com/1989/02/04/world/major-soviet-paper-says-20-million-died-as-victims-of-stalin.html

Indeed, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the literary giant who wrote harrowingly about the Soviet gulag system, claimed the true number of Stalin’s victims might have been as high as 60 million.

Most other estimates from reputed scholars and historians tend to range from between 20 and 60 million.

In his book, “Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R.: 1928-1954,” I.G. Dyadkin estimated that the USSR suffered 56 to 62 million “unnatural deaths” during that period, with 34 to 49 million directly linked to Stalin.

In “Europe A History,” British historian Norman Davies counted 50 million killed between 1924-53, excluding wartime casualties.

Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, a Soviet politician and historian, estimated 35 million deaths.

Even some who have put out estimates based on research admit their calculations may be inadequate.

In his acclaimed book “The Great Terror: Stalin’s Purge of the Thirties,” Anglo-American historian Robert Conquest said: “We get a figure of 20 million dead [under Stalin], which is almost certainly too low and might require an increase of 50 percent or so.”

ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789

Putin is just using nuclear weapons as a means of dealing with his inferior conventional forces.

Come on man, thats a come on man ESPN moment. Grover Furr, thats digging deep, isn’'t he an “english” teacher who’s opinionated?

Think for a moment that someone like this is actually teaching at an American public university.

pjmedia.com/ronradosh/2012/11/13/academic-malpractice-the-case-of-grover-furr/

So shameful is this man that he actually tried to lead a protest against a speech by one of the most brilliant contemporary scholars, Timothy Snyder of Yale University. Snyder is the author of the magisterial and highly acclaimed book Bloodlands, which the Economist rightfully chose as its “Book of the Year.” Professor Furr, it seems, cannot countenance any scholar who engages in rigorous research.

 

[Latias]

The only propaganda is the numbers may indeed be higher.

nytimes.com/1989/02/04/world/major-soviet-paper-says-20-million-died-as-victims-of-stalin.html

ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789

Come on man, thats a come on man ESPN moment. Grover Furr, thats digging deep, isn’'t he an “english” teacher who’s opinionated?

pjmedia.com/ronradosh/2012/11/13/academic-malpractice-the-case-of-grover-furr/

I was interested in the phenomenon of Stalin’s resurgent popularity (and more specifically Putin’s role in it), to the chagrin of the West, surprised perhaps that most Russians do not accept its Cold War propaganda that Stalin was a brutal tyrant with no redeeming aspects. Yes, Stalin’s resurgent popularity is partly due to propaganda since it serves the political interests of the Putin regime, and it was not primarily driven by an honest, dispassionate assessment of Stalin’s role in the development of the CCCP and contributions in the defeat of Nazi fascism. Certainly, Stalin has some significant accomplishments worthy of admiration, but in the West people just bandy around figures of tens of millions of deaths concocted by people such as Robert Conquest and Alexander Solzhenitsyn, and make the accusation that the Ukrainian famine was a “Holodomor”.

I was not interested in Stalin or Grover Furr bashing (who should also be commended for his work).

Also see my comments here, particularly about the absurd spurious “tens of millions” of deaths:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=972877&page=2
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=972877&page=3
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=972877&page=4