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Kaninchen
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Digging up ancient threads is frowned-upon at CAF.
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YoungIreland
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Do you think that a bill that proposes abortion is not newsworthy? Here’s an article from the Irish Times:
irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0419/breaking14.html
irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0419/breaking14.html
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Kaninchen
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The proper course would be to start a new thread.
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YoungIreland
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Point taken. Will start a new thread in future.
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Hopemercy
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and today this story…
breakingnews.ie/ireland/wallace-reads-letter-from-woman-who-ended-longed-for-pregnancy-548105.html
Yet I have read some deeply moving stories of women in this situation who let their babies be born when eg anacephalic.
breakingnews.ie/ireland/wallace-reads-letter-from-woman-who-ended-longed-for-pregnancy-548105.html
Yet I have read some deeply moving stories of women in this situation who let their babies be born when eg anacephalic.
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CaptFun
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I was guilty of assuming that Ireland was unique in its anti-abortion laws, and further (wrongly assumed) that Northern Ireland’s laws wouldn’t be more similar to the Irish Republic’s than the rest of the UK on the issue. Mea Culpa.
Reading further (have I got THIS right?) - the specific woman who was ‘Case C’ actually HAD the baby (a girl) by this time anyway.
The Irish government should appeal the damages, claim that given the health of the mother it is equally likely that an abortion might have been too traumatic to be safe medicine. As exhibit A - defending its position that the doctor(s) involved made a sound medical decision (or refusing to do a risky medical procedure at the time demanded) - the defense should subpoena the living child and the plaintiff/mother.
This case is such an unusual one that the Court probably felt it could decide the case
for plaintiff C and against the broader claims of A and B (as it did) without seeming that radical or intrusive to Irish law - and yet throw a crumb to at least one of the plaintiffs - so as not to appear “regressive” or “staunchly intransigent” or “hidebound” by the media.
A little Pontius Pilate goes a long way though.
Pontius knew the right thing to do. Did part of it. HAD to do it again. Tried to get out of it. Schemed to turn the whole thing into a personal and political triumph. And ended up piling injustice upon injustice, NOT getting out of it, and being forever remembered for his lack of fortitude and courage. " … suffered under Pontius Pilate."
Reading further (have I got THIS right?) - the specific woman who was ‘Case C’ actually HAD the baby (a girl) by this time anyway.
The Irish government should appeal the damages, claim that given the health of the mother it is equally likely that an abortion might have been too traumatic to be safe medicine. As exhibit A - defending its position that the doctor(s) involved made a sound medical decision (or refusing to do a risky medical procedure at the time demanded) - the defense should subpoena the living child and the plaintiff/mother.
This case is such an unusual one that the Court probably felt it could decide the case
for plaintiff C and against the broader claims of A and B (as it did) without seeming that radical or intrusive to Irish law - and yet throw a crumb to at least one of the plaintiffs - so as not to appear “regressive” or “staunchly intransigent” or “hidebound” by the media.
A little Pontius Pilate goes a long way though.
Pontius knew the right thing to do. Did part of it. HAD to do it again. Tried to get out of it. Schemed to turn the whole thing into a personal and political triumph. And ended up piling injustice upon injustice, NOT getting out of it, and being forever remembered for his lack of fortitude and courage. " … suffered under Pontius Pilate."
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LemonAndLime
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That’s something I’ve noticed - many Americans seem to make the assumption than abortion there is the same as over here. I understand that in many parts of the US you can have an abortion at any time of the pregnancy, whereas in the UK you can only have an abortion up until the “age of viability” e.g. the age the baby must be to be statistically likely to survive if the woman went into labour. And that limit has changed as medical science has got better.
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