Evolution and Darwin against Religion and God

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PhiriTalk said:
This is the classic atheist argument: “I personally don’t see it, therefore it’s not there”.
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There are no black swans.

If we saw it, you and every other macro proponent would have produced it many posts ago. The closest was @rossum two experiments from decades ago. He is standing firm there. We will work on that though. 😀
 
PhiriTalk said:
You’ve provided an audio clip as your only evidence. Why should I take you serious?

Why not just provide the evidence you have? Why are you hiding your evidence from me?
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No, I provided links to two, and a macro link to around 20 or so. You really should invest some time listening. Remember, you said you trusted the anti-ID Royal Society.
 
What do you mean there’s no black swans? Lol.


Who’s “we”?

I literally posted multiple experiments showing that evolution occurs over many generations. What did you think the bacteria experiment I posted was all about?

You’re the one who made the claim that “macro” evolution doesn’t happen, it’s on you to support your claim.
 
buffalo said:
Both overruled by new research.
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Erm… and you evidence is?

You really need to learn to give references, otherwise all you have is an unsupported claim, which won’t get you very far in science.
 
PhiriTalk said:
I literally posted multiple experiments showing that evolution occurs over many generations. What did you think the bacteria experiment I posted was all about?

You’re the one who made the claim that “macro” evolution doesn’t happ
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You missed the point about black swans.

No, you do not really know what they did or did not show.
 
You linked me to some Disovery Institute thing and to your own blog and repeatedly to this audio clip supposedly from the Royal Society. You’ve provided no peer reviewed research.

I do trust the Royal Society. The Royal Society explicitly rejects intelligent design.
 
rossum said:
Erm… and you evidence is?

You really need to learn to give references, otherwise all you have is an unsupported claim, which won’t get you very far in science.
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I have. Go back and search my posts on cell directed mutations. You well know of anybody here I link the backup. Maybe you missed it.
 
What was your point? You said that there are no black swans, even though there literally are. Lol.

I can read. The biologists who conducted the experiment aren’t hiding anything.
 
You haven’t though. You just keep spamming people with links to your blog and with this audio clip.
 
PhiriTalk said:
I do trust the Royal Society. The Royal Society explicitly rejects intelligent design.
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Confirmed by you one more time. Now go and listen. When you have we can resume. Until then I will be silent. When you come back tell me how this has enlightened your view or not.
 
buffalo said:
I have. Go back and search my posts on cell directed mutations. You well know of anybody here I link the backup. Maybe you missed it.
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  1. No, you have the references, you give them. Look at any scientific paper (or Wikipedia page) the references are listed there. They do not say, “Go and find the references for yourself.”
  2. You have still not provided us with any predictable, repeatable ID experiments.
 
I don’t even know who’s talking in your audio clip, let alone if it’s even a real audio clip. This audio clip isn’t peer reviewed research anyway, why should I accept it?

I’ve repeatedly requested that you provide evidence for your claims and you have repeatedly dodged and ducked everything. You won’t even say how old you think the universe is or say what you think about the fossil record.
 
Hilarious. Bacteria - across generations - produce more bacteria. And there is no way to predict whatever minor changes that may occur. Bacteria have been found in dirt in the wild that were already resistant to man-madeanti-bacterial agents.
 
Bacteria is an entire Kingdom of life. Far more diverse than Animalia.

Bacteria isn’t a single species.

Dinosaurs are animals, and humans are animals. I fail to see why saying “they’re still bacteria” means anything.

Evolution doesn’t predict which specific changes occur, it just predicts that changes occur.
 
Ignore it all. Go ahead. I’ll continue to post what the Church actually teaches about evolution.
 
What am I ignoring?

The Church literally doesn’t endorse intelligent design. You saying it does, doesn’t make it so.
 
Your obsession with intelligent design indicates you are here to post your own ideology.
 
I’m not the one here that’s obsessed with intelligent design. Buffalo literally maintains an entire website dedicated to promoting intelligent design. All I’ve done is point out that it doesn’t happen.

What is my ideology?
 
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