Ex-officer Brett Hankison indicted in connection with Breonna Taylor's death

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Anesti33 said:
In your fantasy world, but not in any actual document or source that you can cite to us.
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Nobody would be dumb enough to put on paper, but I think an explanation is warranted before jumping into conclusions and it definitely is a possibility.
 
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Balto1 said:
The source is the officer was charged for endangering the lives of white people but not for endangering the lives of Black people.
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That’s not a source, that’s an opinion accusing without evidence, racial bias on the part of the AG, the members of the grand jury and others.
Assuming someone is racist without evidence is racism.
 
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VanitasVanitatum said:
Nobody would be dumb enough to put on paper, but I think an explanation is warranted before jumping into conclusions and it definitely is a possibility.
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The grand jury has no obligation to present to you, and certainly not to those who accuse them of racism without evidence, an explanation. The AG provided the legal explanation for the charges that were or were not filed. There is no evidence of racism here except by those accusing the grand jury of racism without evidence and some commentators referring to the AG as “skinfolk” because he dares to be a Republican.
 
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JonNC said:
Because it is unclear if he heard the police identify themselves, it cannot be argued he had a right to shoot.
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Of course it can. He does not need to prove he didn’t hear the announcement. The fact that it is very possible because he was asleep gives him the right to shoot first and ask questions later. At least that’s what I’m sure you would argue if this were a debate about gun control rather that police brutality.
 
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JonNC:
Because it is unclear if he heard the police identify themselves, it cannot be argued he had a right to shoot.
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Of course it can. He does not need to prove he didn’t hear the announcement. The fact that it is very possible because he was asleep gives him the right to shoot first and ask questions later.
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I apologize.
You are exactly correct. I improperly wrote that sentence. He absolutely did have the right to fire first if he did not hear the police announcement.
Thank you for pointing this out.
 
JonNC said:
The neighbor did not fire first at the police. Taylor’s boyfriend did. The police fired back.
Because it is unclear if he heard the police identify themselves, it cannot be argued he had a right to shoot. He faces no charges, last I heard.
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@LeafByNiggle has pointed this sentence out to me. I miswrote the sentence. He absolutely had the right to fire to protect himself, Taylor and their property if he did not hear the police announcement.
Thanks, Leaf, for pointing this out.
 
JonNC said:
That’s not a source, that’s an opinion accusing without evidence, racial bias on the part of the AG, the members of the grand jury and others.
Assuming someone is racist without evidence is racism.
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The evidence of racism is the racist result of the investigation.
 
CradleRC58 said:
I suppose if a white cop writes a black man a speeding ticket it’s racism ?
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It’s because there were no counts for the black family upstairs, but there were for the white neighbors.
 
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The interviews were conducted by LMPD’s Public Integrity Unit (PIU), which investigates officer-involved shootings. According to the Public Integrity Unit’s investigative file, LMPD investigators spoke to Sarpee on the phone twice in the ensuing months. On March 21, a week after the shooting, Sgt. Jason Vance asked Sarpee directly if he heard anyone identify themselves as police. Sarpee responded, “No, nobody identified themselves.”

Another PIU investigator, Sgt. Amanda Seeyle, called Sarpee back two months later, on May 15, the file shows. At that point, Sarpee said he did hear police say, “This is the cops.”

This isn’t the only instance of the attorney general presenting a single narrative from conflicting evidence. As VICE News reported this week, the initial Kentucky State Police ballistics report could not conclude that the bullet that struck Sgt. Jon Mattingly in the leg came from the gun of Taylor’s boyfriend, Kenneth Walker. The FBI later produced its own ballistics report, the findings of which have not been released. Yet at the press conference announcing charges, Attorney General Cameron stated as fact that Walker’s bullet hit Mattingly.
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The footage, which was obtained by VICE News and documents what was seen by officers who responded to the scene after the shooting, has not previously been made public. It shows officers appearing to break multiple department policies and corroborates parts of Taylor’s boyfriend’s testimony. It also raises questions about the integrity not only of the crime scene but of the ensuing investigation into what happened that night.

The footage was captured by 45 different body cameras and included as part of the investigative file compiled by the LMPD’s Public Integrity Unit and shared with the Kentucky attorney general’s office. (No footage from the raid itself has been released, and for months, LMPD has insisted that none exists, saying that officers in this unit often operate in plainclothes and were not required to wear body cameras. VICE News has previously reported that crime scene photos contradict initial statements by the LMPD claiming that the officers involved, who work narcotics, do not wear body cameras. Photographs of officers taken from that night clearly show Tony James, one of the at least seven officers present for the raid, wearing a body camera over his right shoulder.)

Footage shows not one of the seven officers who were present for the raid being immediately separated and paired with an escort, which is a violation of LMPD’s own policy. The department’s standards and procedures state that all officers involved in a critical incident must be paired with an escort officer at the scene and “isolated from all non-essential individuals for the remainder of the initial investigation.”

“I’ve never seen anything like this,” a former LMPD narcotics officer, who reviewed parts of the footage, told VICE News. The officer, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retribution, added that it’s the responsibility of the commanders on scene to make sure all involved officers are taken aside.
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Protesters turning on each other just like I knew they would.

Can’t get the Facebook video link to work but here in Louisville the group that has been hanging out at a church Downtown claiming sanctuary how is now kicked all white protesters out of their group. Supposedly they were white antifa.
 
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CradleRC58 said:
here in Louisville the group that has been hanging out at a church Downtown claiming sanctuary how is now kicked all white protesters out of their group. Supposedly they were white antifa.
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One thing I have noticed about demonstrations going all the way back to the anti-war demonstrations of the 60’s is that when a big demonstration is known to happen, it attracts all sorts of other-interest groups that join the demonstration with signs promoting their own (separate) causes. Perhaps those who wanted to keep this demonstration focused on only justice for Breonna Taylor did not want to give free publicity to any other causes. Good for them!
 
Well, there are also informants in these protest groups now.

Also, another patriot militia showed up downtown today. This one a bit different. It’s multi-racial in it’s membership.
 
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