Exclusive interview: Cardinal Burke says confusion spreading among Catholics ‘in an alarming way’

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LongingSoul said:
One thing that distinguishes us from the breakaway Christian denominations, is the role of the Pope in our faith. Having a Catholic faith means submitting in obedience to the guidance of whoever sits in that seat. People will often say ‘well there have been bad popes’ but we know that the Pope is protected by the Holy Spirit from teaching error. Whoever he is, if he is not a servant of God… he cannot mislead you. We have the freedom and privilege of giving our full Catholic faith over to the guidance of the Pope. To regard his authority with caution and decide on a course of picking and choosing what we will accept from him, is to not have faith in the great gift Christ gave us. The ‘rock’ that can never lead us astray.
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And we await the coming of the Apostolic Exhortation to be given after October’s session. Before then, and due to the controversial nature of certain proposals publicized by the bishops themselves, we will be following the dialogue that Pope Francis has requested.
 
Tigg said:
We’ve heard more than once in our recent homilies that the Church belongs solely to Christ and as teaching states, each of the faithful members of his Body, is a bride “betrothed” to Christ the Lord so as to become but one spirit with him."
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There is some danger in trusting our judgement over that of the clergy. I certainly am not in a position to determine that what I may decide is the right path is Divinely inspired, I must trust in the Holy Father. I can only pray that he not lead me astray.
 
Tigg said:
And we await the coming of the Apostolic Exhortation to be given after October’s session. Before then, and due to the controversial nature of certain proposals publicized by the bishops themselves, we will be following the dialogue that Pope Francis has requested.
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The quote I picked from the original article was not part of the discussion of synod issues, but about creating division. Pope Francis clearly wants to address those things fearlessly and open to the Holy Spirit through the synod. We can trust in that fully. What point or agenda does it serve to be saying that the Pope is wrong to put these subjects to theological discussion for a deeper understanding and way to address them? Why even say that but to create protest and revolt against Pope?
 
baliano said:
There is some danger in trusting our judgement over that of the clergy. I certainly am not in a position to determine that what I may decide is the right path is Divinely inspired, I must trust in the Holy Father. I can only pray that he not lead me astray.
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That is not what our pastor implied at all. He rightly reminded us that Christ founded His Church and that it is His Spirit Who guides her. It was simply meant to tell us that despite the current battle between the bishops, we must trust and follow the teachings of the Church.
 
Livingwordunity,

I was being kind. My opinion. End of story.
 
cradlecatholic5 said:
Cardinal Burke was in my Archdiocese … never been a fan of his. :rolleyes:
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Mine too. I have a ton of respect for him. With Cardinal Burke you must read or hear what he says directly. I never base an opinion on what is reported that he said. He is extremely intelligent and very precise with his wording. He is also completely honest, specifically you know precisely where he stands and he leave no grey area. He unashamed to speak what he believes to be the truth.

I have not once read one of his “controversial statements” that wasn’t in perfect alignment with Church Doctrine and Canon Law.
 
whm said:
Mine too. I have a ton of respect for him.
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As do I. I wanted to clarify because I am not a fan of this interview. He serves a valuable role in maintaining Orthodoxy and preventing the spread of secular errors into the Church. On the other hand, I also respect the theological liberals who help us avoid stagnation and irrelevancy and keep us moving ever forward into understanding God.
 
pnewton said:
As do I. I wanted to clarify because I am not a fan of this interview.
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I see. If you ask him a question he will answer it directly. The questions seemed pretty deliberate in this interview. In the past some interviewers have abused his non-avoidance of questions and taken his response out of context.
 
There is a way of thinking, acting and evangelizing in that interview that need to be refuted and resisted… At all costs… A scary and, frankly, dangerous extremism that does nothing to lead to the gospel, but instead divides and condemns without hope for redemption. Scary and dangerous…

We must keep praying… And acting to make sure the way if thinking demonstrated in this interview is not passed on to others.
 
baliano said:
There is some danger in trusting our judgement over that of the clergy. I certainly am not in a position to determine that what I may decide is the right path is Divinely inspired, I must trust in the Holy Father. I can only pray that he not lead me astray.
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I hope that when you reach the pearly gates that you don’t rely on ‘I was doing what I was told’… I hope no one eve does that.
 
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I think there are a lot of people who are uncertain about where Pope Francis is leading. I think they find some validation when leaders of the Church publicly voice similar concerns.
 
on_the_hill said:
I think there are a lot of people who are uncertain about where Pope Francis is leading. I think they find some validation when leaders of the Church publicly voice similar concerns.
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If one really has Catholic faith, one shouldn’t worry so much. Jesus made a promise to Peter and his successors. We either have faith in that promise (and thus in Christ), or we don’t.

Faith without works is dead, and one of the most important works of faith is to place trust in Christ and in everything He promised. Without that trust, our faith is just lip service. Without that trust, we are left with fear, and fear is corrosive to the faith.

NB, not directed to anybody in particular on this forum. Just a general observation.
 
It would be perfectly reasonable for one to respond to this interview with dismay, or even shock…but, sadly, this now must be viewed as the expected norm coming from this particular prelate.

One can’t help intuitively sensing that this is more than merely theologically driven; it seems to be almost personal. What is most troubling is that there is a lingering quality to the whole thing that makes it appear as something which is festering.

I have complete faith that the Holy Spirit will bring forth accord from all of this dissonance, but it sure would be nice for the spirit of peace and harmony to find a more prominent role in these discourses.
 
unafraid said:
One can’t help intuitively sensing that this is more than merely theologically driven; it seems to be almost personal. What is most troubling is that there is a lingering quality to the whole thing that makes it appear as something which is festering.
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I’m sure it is personal, for both sides of the debate.
 
pnewton said:
As do I. I wanted to clarify because I am not a fan of this interview. He serves a valuable role in maintaining Orthodoxy and preventing the spread of secular errors into the Church. On the other hand, I also respect the theological liberals who help us avoid stagnation and irrelevancy and keep us moving ever forward into understanding God.
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👍 That is pretty much my position. The democratic process is a brilliant political model and worth utilising in the Church so that every voice can be heard. The special gift the leader of the Church has over a political leader, is a final guarantee that he cannot be wrong in his ‘policy decisions’ regarding the faith and morality issues of its ‘constituents’.
 
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