Exorcism

[Sanctus]

shannin:

We had a special pro-life Novena planned and when we all arrived, we discoverd that there was a mix-up in the Church’s schedule and a wedding was to be held at the same time. This has never, ever happened. Our parish priest got in touch with a priest that fills in for other priests and we all relocated to another church for the Novena. When we got there, the substitute priest told us that they found a Host (Holy Eucharist) on the floor of the Church.

That Novena was exceptionally beautiful that day.

Blessings,
Shannin

Wow…God works in mysterious ways.

 

[serendipity]

There’s a news story on BBC homepage about a Vatican course on exorcism. I tried to paste the exact link, but couldn’t get it. It’s on the right hand side of the screen at this address: news.bbc.co.uk/

 

[SHJ-BVM]

Serendipity,

I’m either blind, or the link is no longer effective. I think this is the same news article though:

story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=535&ncid=535&e=9&u=/ap/20050217/ap_on_re_eu/italy_exorcism_class

 

[Darrel]

(Joshua):

I know first hand that the evil one or his demons can enter people or animals.
About 3 years ago I was leaving a friends house in the small hours of the morning.
A black labador dog came running up towards me growling fiercly, I stood my ground, not because I was afraid.
I could see evil in it’s eyes, so I made the sign of the cross, and the dog took to it’s heels.
Saint Faustina was going to her Church to pray, when a black cat tried to block her, she knew it was evil. If you don’t believe in it you will be easier prey.
Heres a true story of possession, catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0137.html

I remember hearing at some point that any animal possessed by a demon would kill it’s self. There is an example of this with Christ exorcising the demons into a heard of pigs which all ran into the water and drowned. Any Catholic teachings on this? As for humans I know for a fact that this sort of thing happens. I still wonder why the Church keeps it so hush hush, is this for the purpose of victim privacy?

-D

 

[Exporter]

Here is the latest on Exorcism from the Vatican.
general-anaesthesia.com/misc/exorcism.html

 

[serendipity]

Sorry. I think the link was bad. It was a story listed on the front page that day. But is was some sort of video story, so I couldn’t get the link from that. I’m sure there is a way, but I am a moron.

I recently read the book by Fr. Amorth. It was interesting becase it was more of a theology of exorcism, than any sort of sensationalist book. From its descpition I thought it would be more like case studies. But it was more like a series of essays, in which he occasionally referred to things he learned form his experiences. I loved the prayers in the appendix.

The book raised some improtant issues. Full demonic possession is really rare, but demonic oppression happens quite often. The problem is that so few priests are willing to learn about this field, that people in despearation often to turn to witch doctors or psychics, which makes the situation worse for them.

Fr. Amorth writes about Jesus’ commands in the gospel to heal people in his name and to deliver them from demons, but questions why the Catholic Church has paid so little attention to these commands. He stated that the Church could learn somethign form some of the other Christian churches that pracitce spiritual healing and deliverance prayers. But he didn’t specify which churches or how, or who. I wish he gave more follow up information. It sounded like an appeal to support the Charismatic movement in the Catholic church, but it was not outwardly stated.

 

[padraig]

Well, then I’ll tell you a true story about the Devil. The actual Devil.
It happened in Downpatrick a small, boringly quiet country town about 20 miles from Belfast, I think about ten years or more ago now.
My Spiritual Director from when I was about sixteen was the late Father Bernard a very wise and holy old priest with a great reputation in our Diocese.
He was visited by a lady, a Ward Sister in the local country hospital who was very concerned about her eighteen year old son who had been admitted to a secure ward in the Downshire Mental Hospital.

Anyway the son had been causing trouble in the Asylum and they were having great difficulty getting staff to man his Ward, especially at night times. He was very violent and abusive. But much worse than this there had been extraordinary paranormal activity in the ward, objects moving about under their own volition and what not. The poor woman was at her wits end and asked the priest to visit.
When Father Bernard entered the youths room he flew off the bed to attack him in a great fury. Luckily Bernard had had the presence of mind to bring a crucifix with him. When he produced it the boy fell to the ground and slithered like a snake, in a way that should have been impossible.

Well the priest tested him and he showed all the signs of full diabolic possesion, speaking in foriegn tongues, reaction to blessed objects, abilty to read minds.

I will cut a long story short. The Bishop tasked Bernard to do the excorcism, the first in our Diocese for 48 years. The Doctors were so concerned that they sent him out to the monastery in an ambulance, but asked that it be kept out of the media. The excorcism was successful and fairly uneventful and the boy was discharged from hospital.

It turned out that he and his friend were drug dealers and dabbled in devil worship, they both having sold their souls to the devil. This boy backed out and so the signs. The other boy, as far as I know never did. He has been caught by the police several times red handed and gootten off on technicalities. He fell off a motorbike one time at seventy miles an hour and walked away without a scatch. The Devil seems to be keeping up his end of the bargain… http://www.emigrant.ie/boards/ubb/eek.gif

 

[Tyler_Smedley]

Sanctus:

Ah yes, the intriguing topic of exorcisim(s). What do you think of them? Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of one being preformed? Have you read the book by Fr. Gabriele Amorth titled An Exorcist Tells His Story? I’d just like some stories, this is something that has always intrested me.

I own that book and I would recomend it to anyone who thinks that exorcisms are “not needed anymore”. Wonderful stuff.

 

[Tyler_Smedley]

Wow, to the post above, thats an amazing story. Interesting how those things are kept out of the media isn’t it? Too bad really, the Power of God at work.

 

[challenger]

They’re good… but the new ones don’t work very well.

 

[_Joshua]

Darrel:

I remember hearing at some point that any animal possessed by a demon would kill it’s self. There is an example of this with Christ exorcising the demons into a heard of pigs which all ran into the water and drowned. Any Catholic teachings on this? As for humans I know for a fact that this sort of thing happens. I still wonder why the Church keeps it so hush hush, is this for the purpose of victim privacy?

-D

I don’t think it’s a matter of the Church keeping it hush-hush.
In one of Christina (Ferguson) Gallaghers books, she said the devil tortured her for 3 hours in her kitchen, or something to that effect.
But she learned that the more she put her trust in God, the less she feared the evil one.
And that is what we should do, concentrate on God, and don’t give the evil one any credence.
Christina said the devil rules by fear, Jesus did warn us about the evil one, and having the power to snatch our souls for eternity.
So we have to stay close to God, and He will see to the rest, don’t over emphasize the evil one, over emphasize God, and the evil one will have limited power over you.
I’m not sure if it’s victim privacy, but we have a saying over here in Ireland, “speak of the devil and he’ll appear”.
Don’t ever forget that the evil one is there, but put God to the forefront, and put satan on the back-burner.

Cheers—Stiofan Mac Udir

 

[dcmac]

I thank God for them. I’ve never had one outside of Baptism and the Sacrament of the Sick performed on me, but should I ever need one I am glad the Church has the Grace, Power to perform them… thank you Jesus!

 

[Exporter]

Faather Amorth was John Paul II’s Exorcist. He wrote in his bok that he will see 40 to 80 suspected Demon posessed people each morning in Roma.

Perhaps the reason the Church keeps exorcisms quiet is that some people who are just psychologically impared would think they are being acted on by Satan. A natural evolution of the sickness is the best way to detect demon obsession. Of course they really dont know if it truely an act of the Devil until the exorcism starts.

 

[jungo]

ware there is good there is evil. i have seen some funny stuff in my life. and sciance cant explane them i think a lot of people are blind .and dont see it till it hits them. here is somthing to think about it god belives in you then so does the devil. they both know your here. its a scarry fact .

but god can be crule and i think its possable for the devil to be kind i dont think its in the nature of the devil to be kind or god to be crule. but its possable. things jump into your body and i have seen an Exorcism on video cam and i have never seen anyone act in the way they do when the beast comes out.

there face changes and you can see it comming out clear as day its a sicking thing.

keep the study you never know when you may need it.

 

[space_ghost]

…give it your best shot… good luck… but i really think it’s a lost cause:thumbsup:



…those shoulder devils are the hardest thing to eliminate…

 

[viktor_aleksndr]

If you believe that satan really exist then you must believe in exorcism.



im just curious! Is he a Catholic? Ive watched one of his program and the topic is the Doctrine of Catholics. And two of his guest are Catholic Priest.

 

[DavidB]

serendipity:

Fr. Amorth writes about Jesus’ commands in the gospel to heal people in his name and to deliver them from demons, but questions why the Catholic Church has paid so little attention to these commands. He stated that the Church could learn somethign form some of the other Christian churches that pracitce spiritual healing and deliverance prayers. But he didn’t specify which churches or how, or who. I wish he gave more follow up information. It sounded like an appeal to support the Charismatic movement in the Catholic church, but it was not outwardly stated.

Hi Serendipity,

I’ve read both of Father Amorth’s books on exorcism recently. I agree that he specifically (particularly in the second book - “More Stories”) encourages the Catholic Charismatic renewal because those with the gifts of the Spirit have particular success in both deliverance and exorcisms. He’s come to that conclusion having run into several cases in which he certified perfect possession and later discovered the person experienced complete freedom having been prayed for by non-Catholic Pentecostals and/or Charismatics. He referred back to Jesus’s admonition to his disciples who complained about someone casting out demons in the Name of Jesus, but who was not specifically “with” them, Jesus told them to relax, that those who weren’t against them were actually “with” them and that there were those who enter the kingdom via a different gate.

I spent 20 years in the Assemblies of God (a Pentecostal Church) and occasionally came across a demon who manifested when I went to pray for someone. I’d pray for healing or blessing or whatever they asked for in the ministry prayer line. As I was praying, suddenly a very obvious demon would begin growling and talking in a eerie voice that was neither male nor female. It would surprise me, but we were trained how to handle this, we would take authority over the demon in the Name of Jesus and command it to go, and it would. Sometimes it happened rather quickly (the person seemingly expelling it in an outward breath and experiencing instant deliverance and often physical healing at the same time), other times, the exorcism was much more involved and required fasting and prayer in private prayer time requiring several hours to gain their freedom.

I am now in the Charismatic Episcopal Church (CEC) which is also very experienced and successful in exorcisms and deliverance. Our local Catholic bishop even sends cases to us because he knows and trusts us and realizes we have a great deal of success dealing with this.

Other churches/movements that are also successful in this arena are: third wave churches such as the Vineyard churches, Toronto Airport Church and related churches, and many independent charismatic churches.

Hope that helps.

David

P.S. Your personal comment erlier in this thread about not wanting to draw the attention of evil spirits and risk more grief and pain by getting directly involved in deliverance ministry is the same reason cited by Father Amorth as to why Catholic priests often avoid getting involved as well. I’ve experienced this directly and had more than one direct attack over the years in which I had illnesses, physical attacks and even physical manifestations designed to scare me and my family. The last time was this past winter in which I was praying in my home at night and I heard footsteps walking across the room right in front of me. It was so clear I could literally track the location of the sounds in front of me a mere 2-3 feet. It stopped in front of my computer desk and suddenly the computer turned on (it was totally off, not just in sleep mode). I realized what was happening and got angry. My young sons reported evil/scary dreams from the night before and the entire family had been sick for nearly a month straight and I put all of the pieces together and understood the source of all of those things. I got my bottle of Holy Water and went through the house room-by-room and anointed each person as well. Instantly, the bad dreams and evil manifestations stopped and everyone started getting remarkably better after that. This attack coincided with a Call that God placed on me to become a priest in the CEC. It literally coincided with 3 different prophectic confirmations of that Call that occurred one after the other. My point is simply that to advance the Kingdom of God on the earth, we have to displace Darkness, so there’s no way we can avoid confronting evil directly without also disobeying God’s commission to the Church. So we might as well be as educated and prepared as possible for the confrontations rather than hide and hope not to be noticed.

 

[Magicsilence]

(Joshua):

I know first hand that the evil one or his demons can enter people or animals.
About 3 years ago I was leaving a friends house in the small hours of the morning.
A black labador dog came running up towards me growling fiercly, I stood my ground, not because I was afraid.
I could see evil in it’s eyes, so I made the sign of the cross, and the dog took to it’s heels.
Saint Faustina was going to her Church to pray, when a black cat tried to block her, she knew it was evil. If you don’t believe in it you will be easier prey.
Heres a true story of possession, catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0137.html

Regarding the link, i am a little confused, it says ( amongst other things)

When Father Bowdern tried to give him First Holy Communion, Robbie five times spit out the Sacred Host; they then paused to say the Rosary, and Robbie finally received the Holy Eucharist.

On April 18, Easter Monday, the exorcism came to a climax. As Father Bowdern continued the ritual, the demon recognized the presence of St. Michael the Archangel, and was expelled from Robbie.

So, coming from a CATHOLIC site, it says that the HOST didnt remove the demon, but the archangel Micheal COULD???
Someone want to explain.?

 

[twiztedseraph]

Mayhaps we should use them a little more?

 

[Katie1723]

Years ago I watched " The Exorcist" That was enough to scare the wits out of me. Some say I am not right since!
~ Kathy ~