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Servant19
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No Krishna taught in the Bhagavad Gita that there is only one God.
But He also said that He is God. Just like Jesus and Baha’u’llah and the Bab
Only through the Baha’i Revelation can you figure this out Jimmy
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But He also said that He is God. Just like Jesus and Baha’u’llah and the Bab
Only through the Baha’i Revelation can you figure this out Jimmy
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JimmyDFG
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Moses Didn’t say he was God. Nor did Zoroaster, Buddha, Confucius, MuhammadNo Krishna taught in the Bhagavad Gita that there is only one God.
But He also said that He is God. Just like Jesus and Baha’u’llah and the Bab
Only through the Baha’i Revelation can you figure this out Jimmy
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Servant19
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All of these Manifestations of God had a separate mission to bring savagely polytheistic populations towards a one God.
So the emphasis was not on creating another God, which they would have if they were to claim that they too, were God…
Each Manifestation of God has a definitely prescribed Mission.
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JimmyDFG
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But Hinduism is polytheistic
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Servant19
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JimmyDFG
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With the Baha’i reasoning if God could not seem to get it right the first time with Moses/manifestation of God, what makes a believer think that successive “manifestations” or “prophets” will fair any better?
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worldcitizen
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When one advances from kindergarten to primary school is it the principle of the school who got it wrong?
You learned the basics then progressed so were given a teacher that advanced your learning and abilities but kindergarten was absolutely necessary.
Now Baha’u’llah has come we have reached university but it doesn’t lessen any of the teachers that helped us progress to university. They were stages along the way of our education and were all needed.
For example Buddha taught detachment and meditation, Christ taught love and forgiveness, Muhammad taught love of country and learning and Baha’u’llah taught love for all humanity and people of all Faiths.
Now which one of these high ideals don’t we need?? They are all complimentary and not in competition with each other.
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TonyBS
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Firstly it in not a Baha’i Teaching or View that God does not get it right. It is man that gets it wrong.
As per Worldcitizen above - Link to thoughts - bahaiteachings.org/progressive-revelation-a-new-paradigm-for-religion-and-history
One would hope we can now learn the lessons and stop rejecting Gods Manifestations.
Regards Tony
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MartinJordan
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Just to clarify are you finally rejecting that Jesus is the Truth the way and the Life?. Even when Jesus is not allowed to speak when teaching?
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Servant19
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Jesus said “nothing” that was not actually the Fathers Words.
It is the Father that is the Way, the Truth.
No Baha’i rejected that.
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(Btw why don’t you share with us the rest of what Jesus said in John 14???
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TonyBS
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That question just clarifies no one is interested in the Bahai Perspective.
It needs no response as to the complete negative content of the question.
Regards Tony
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MartinJordan
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As far as it has been displayed by Bahai here even on this thread dedicated to Bahaism, NT verses (a Holy book by the Church) are used to explain the Bahai perspective, yet there is no responsibility taken to allow Jesus continue his discourse.
Everything about the NT is about Jesus or is it not, according the Bahai here? If not, then the Bahai are not interested to answering what they themselves start.
But my prayers continue for you…to all Bahai.
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MartinJordan
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Verses from Mark 10 came from worldcitizen before he suddenly went to John 14. The latter is a tangent as I’ve told worldcitizen. So courtesy please. Mark 10 : 19 onwards (worldcitizen stopped at 18) shall we allow Jesus to talk?Jesus said “nothing” that was not actually the Fathers Words.
It is the Father that is the Way, the Truth.
No Baha’i rejected that.
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(Btw why don’t you share with us the rest of what Jesus said in John 14???
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Servant19
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Please doVerses from Mark 10 came from worldcitizen before he suddenly went to John 14. The latter is a tangent as I’ve told worldcitizen. So courtesy please. Mark 10 : 19 onwards (worldcitizen stopped at 18) shall we allow Jesus to talk?
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What does He say in the whole of John 14?
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TonyBS
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Just thinking about this passage, it raises interesting observations as to why it is written as a plural. Never thought to.contemplate the Plural aspect of this before.Please do
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At the time of Revelation, it was not Churches but a single faith in Christ building a Church
It is either a Prophesy the Single Faith of Christ would be split into Churches, or it is talking about other Faiths as also Churches.
Revelation 3:22 “Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”
Either way we must Let Jesus Christ’s Words unfold with ears that hear.
Regards Tony
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MartinJordan
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Worldcitizen should take the lead in Mark 10: 19 onwards.Please do
What does He say in the whole of John 14?
John 14 doesn’t just start just like that. You have to go through the sequence of events. Say John 10 when the Pharisees took Jesus on, doubting his testimony then continue onwards. Let alone John 15 onwards!
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TonyBS
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The Koran says much The same, gives us a good warning to consider.Yes, Jesus Christ’s words must be heard and not stopped.
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Koran 45:6 “Woe to every Lying sinner, who heareth the verses of God recited to him, and then, as though he heard them not, persiteth in proud distain! Apprise him of a painful punishment”.
As a Baha’i all these are relevant to us, thus why do you think we do not consider all the Words as written in the Bible?
Yes we see them with a different frame of reference which is an all-inclusive Oneness of our God.
Regards Tony
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worldcitizen
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We agree with every station of Jesus except that no Manifestation was of the essence of God or God incarnate.Verses from Mark 10 came from worldcitizen before he suddenly went to John 14. The latter is a tangent as I’ve told worldcitizen. So courtesy please. Mark 10 : 19 onwards (worldcitizen stopped at 18) shall we allow Jesus to talk?
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MartinJordan
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It’s of no value to keep insisting without following up what is a reasonable and charitable request. Mark 10: 19 onwards please. For Jesus sake if not mine.
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