Explosions near finish line of Boston Marathon

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Sorry, Border Patrol (at least in this sector) uses it to refer to ‘Other than Mexicans’.

ETA: from a 2006 congressional report-

" During 2005, Border Patrol apprehended approximately 1.2 million illegal aliens; of
those 165,000 were from countries other than Mexico. Of the non-Mexican aliens,
approximately 650 were from special interest countries. Special interest countries are
those “designated by the intelligence community as countries that could export
individuals that could bring harm to our country in the way of terrorism.” "

house.gov/sites/members/tx10_mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

According to the line agents I’ve spoken to, it hasn’t gotten any better. They still intercept them, and they still believe they miss most of them due to their ability/willingness to pay more to be smuggled into the US.
 
styrgwillidar said:
Sorry, Border Patrol (at least in this sector) uses it to refer to ‘Other than Mexicans’.

ETA: from a 2006 congressional report-

" During 2005, Border Patrol apprehended approximately 1.2 million illegal aliens; of
those 165,000 were from countries other than Mexico. Of the non-Mexican aliens,
approximately 650 were from special interest countries. Special interest countries are
those “designated by the intelligence community as countries that could export
individuals that could bring harm to our country in the way of terrorism.” "

house.gov/sites/members/tx10_mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

According to the line agents I’ve spoken to, it hasn’t gotten any better. They still intercept them, and they still believe they miss most of them due to their ability/willingness to pay more to be smuggled into the US.
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When I was in San Diego, I spoke with two different people who claimed to have been onsite at Border Patrol facilities, when those facilities called in all patrols, and essentially shut down, in order to allow designated illegals through undetected. It sounded incredible to me, but these individuals had no reason to make this up. They were rather shocked by it. There were individuals who were regularly at the facility, long enough to observe operations.

If this is true, then there is more than a funding problem at issue.
 
maryjk said:
I am not sure why this is news worthy.

He is a policeman.

In Boston.

There was an attack.

And, as a policeman in Boston, he responded. 🤷

Isn’t that what he was hired and trained to do?
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Agreed-but why let a good tragedy go to waste?
 
Again, the amount of funding becomes irrelevant, IMHO, given our porus borders. (Note, this is not just about the southern border. Opponents look for and exploit weaknesses, plug one hole, they look for another. World Trade Center attacks exploited the US abysmal lack of enforcment of visas).

Couldn’t happen again right? Well, in 2012 an officer stopped an illegal alien for a traffic violation. That illegal alien was operating a flight school. That flight school had students who were also illegal aliens, some having remained in the US on expired visas. Sure, and slashing some money from the budget is the problem. Thankfully, this state/locality didn’t consider themselves ‘sanctuaries’ prohibitng following up on suspicions on immigration status.

newsmax.com/Newsfront/flight-training-lllegals-tsa/2012/07/19/id/445825

Didn’t realize it, but there was a 2012 update to the 2006 report I linked to in my post above:

mccaul.house.gov/uploads/Final%20PDF%20Line%20in%20the%20Sand.pdf

From that report, (which details Hezbollahs involvement in South America including human smuggling and cocaine smuggling);

‘Additionally, the U.S. Border Patrol regularly apprehends aliens from the 35 “special interest” countries “designated by our intelligence community as countries that could export individuals that could bring harm to our country in the way of terrorism.”6 From Fiscal Years 2006 to 2011, there were 1,918 apprehensions of these special interest aliens at our Southwest border.’

An example

‘On January 11, 2011, Border Patrol agents working in a rural area of eastern San Diego County, California encountered Said Jaziri in the trunk of a vehicle as he was in the process of being smuggled across the Southwest border. Jaziri told patrol agents that he had flown from Tunisia to Mexico by way of Spain, Guatemala, El Salvador and Belize. Jaziri eventually found his way to Tijuana where he paid a human smuggling operation $5,000 to get him across the Southwest border and to a safe place anywhere in the United States.’

Bush, Obama, Dem, Repub. We ain’t serious about security or terrorism.
 
styrgwillidar said:
Again, the amount of funding becomes irrelevant, IMHO, given our porus borders. (Note, this is not just about the southern border. Opponents look for and exploit weaknesses, plug one hole, they look for another. World Trade Center attacks exploited the US abysmal lack of enforcment of visas).

Couldn’t happen again right? Well, in 2012 an officer stopped an illegal alien for a traffic violation. That illegal alien was operating a flight school. That flight school had students who were also illegal aliens, some having remained in the US on expired visas. Sure, and slashing some money from the budget is the problem. Thankfully, this state/locality didn’t consider themselves ‘sanctuaries’ prohibitng following up on suspicions on immigration status.

newsmax.com/Newsfront/flight-training-lllegals-tsa/2012/07/19/id/445825

Didn’t realize it, but there was a 2012 update to the 2006 report I linked to in my post above:

mccaul.house.gov/uploads/Final%20PDF%20Line%20in%20the%20Sand.pdf

From that report, (which details Hezbollahs involvement in South America including human smuggling and cocaine smuggling);

‘Additionally, the U.S. Border Patrol regularly apprehends aliens from the 35 “special interest” countries “designated by our intelligence community as countries that could export individuals that could bring harm to our country in the way of terrorism.”6 From Fiscal Years 2006 to 2011, there were 1,918 apprehensions of these special interest aliens at our Southwest border.’

An example

‘On January 11, 2011, Border Patrol agents working in a rural area of eastern San Diego County, California encountered Said Jaziri in the trunk of a vehicle as he was in the process of being smuggled across the Southwest border. Jaziri told patrol agents that he had flown from Tunisia to Mexico by way of Spain, Guatemala, El Salvador and Belize. Jaziri eventually found his way to Tijuana where he paid a human smuggling operation $5,000 to get him across the Southwest border and to a safe place anywhere in the United States.’

Bush, Obama, Dem, Repub. We ain’t serious about security or terrorism.
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What specific measures would you take, without increasing spending. Keep in mind that every additional Federal employee makes a paycheck, and has very generous benefits, including retirement benefits. In fact law enforcement is among the highest paid.

Also, equipment and facilities are expensive.

How would you get more out of current spending levels?
 
CORRECTION: in my last post, the flight school was discovered in 2010, not 2012.

Here is the link to the actual GAO report, and the wording from the report itself (page 6):

gao.gov/assets/600/592598.pdf

Another weakness that we identified is that AFSP is not designed to
determine whether a foreign flight student entered the country legally; thus, a foreign national can be approved for training through AFSP after entering the country illegally. In March 2010, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) investigated a Boston-area flight school after local police stopped the flight school owner for a traffic violation and discovered that he was in the country illegally. In response to this incident, ICE launched a broader investigation of the students enrolled at the flight school. ICE found that 25 of the foreign nationals at this flight school had applied to AFSP and had been approved by TSA to begin flight training after their security threat assessment had been completed; however, the ICE investigation and our subsequent inquiries revealed the following issues, among other things:
• Eight of the 25 foreign nationals who received approval by TSA to begin flight training were in “entry without inspection” status, meaning they had entered the country illegally. Three of these had obtained FAA airman certificates: 2 held FAA private pilot certificates and 1 held an FAA commercial pilot certificate.
• Seventeen of the 25 foreign nationals who received approval by TSA to begin flight training were in “overstay” status, meaning they had overstayed their authorized period of admission into the United States.
• In addition, the flight school owner held two FAA airman certificates. Specifically, he was a certified Airline Transport Pilot (cargo pilot) and a Certified Flight Instructor. However, he had never received a TSA security threat assessment or been approved by TSA to obtain flight training. He had registered with TSA as a flight training provider under AFSP

At all levels, local to federal, we assidiously avoid the basics of determining legal status.
 
Looks like they have made a breakthrough in the Boston case.

In other news here, there is a report that a poisonous envelope addressed to President Obama has been found.
 
Unconfirmed , but the Boston Globe is saying Feds have identified a suspect from video footage.
 
Samson01 said:
Unconfirmed , but the Boston Globe is saying Feds have identified a suspect from video footage.
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Thanks, CNN is talking about it but press conference is rescheduled for 5 PM EST I believe… supposedly CNN has an inside angle but I will wait for the news before I’m talking about it here… and even then, they really need to have someone in custody.
 
BroomWagon said:
Thanks, CNN is talking about it but press conference is rescheduled for 5 PM EST I believe… supposedly CNN has an inside angle but I will wait for the news before I’m talking about it here… and even then, they really need to have someone in custody.
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Yep, looks like this is the reason for the delay…would bet money the FBI tact team double taps him in the head…
 
They are looking at a “young man” who was caught on tape across the street from the second bomb on a Lord and Tayler security camera…
 
“An arrest is imminent…” From a lot of sources in Boston. Giving the nature of the case and danger of entry, pace of planning entry…he has very little chance of living through this…IMHO.
 
epan said:
What specific measures would you take, without increasing spending. Keep in mind that every additional Federal employee makes a paycheck, and has very generous benefits, including retirement benefits. In fact law enforcement is among the highest paid.

Also, equipment and facilities are expensive.

How would you get more out of current spending levels?
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Prohibition on any federal funding to any self-declared ‘sanctuary’ city, county, state.

Require interaction with any law enforcement officer to include inquiry on legal status. I don’t care what race/origin/ethnicity. Arrest and deport illegals (well, you might want to detain and question those from “nations of interest…”)

Require all employers to use the database (forget it’s name) to check legality for employees.

Better inland enforcement- take 10% of TSA employees and use them for checks on employers, follow-up on those on visas.

Prosecute companies which knowingly hire illegals.

Liberalize tourist/short term visas/family visits. If goal is detering terrorism it should be about identifying who is here, not focused on keeping everyone out.

Work visas for agricultural/menial labor work. Liberalize those, have employers provide state department with an estimate for number of bodies they are looking to hire and time period. State Dept issues visas based on those numbers to applicants from foreign countries, employer and foreigner on visa report their location and update as required.

Do not allow family tag-ons for those on work visas.

We don’t have to offer citizenship-- it just draws more illegal entrants. Why we keep doing this ‘one time amnesty’ every 20 years. We need to make it easier to identify and allow entry for those where it is mutually beneficial. Lower the number trying to enter illegaly make border security more manageable within the allotted resources. Easier to find the one or two bad apples in a bushel than in an orchard. Technology can detect entrants, but it takes folks on the ground to react to each detection, they can’t currently respond to every detection.
 
Arrest made - CNN, amazing. Per Reporter Johnathan Smith I think is his name.

By the way people, I’m sure Free Republic and others have this news, I just don’t want to say too much myself.
 
CNN news update:

“arrest made in bombings case based on two videos tracking the bomber”
 
BroomWagon said:
Arrest made - CNN, amazing. Per Reporter Johnathan Smith I think is his name.

By the way people, I’m sure Free Republic and others have this news, I just don’t want to say too much myself.
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thanks…things are moving quickly.
 
Federal law enforcement officials are stating that they have made an arrest in the case. There is no word on nationality, gender, motive, etc.
 
CatholicGeek1 said:
Federal law enforcement officials are stating that they have made an arrest in the case. There is no word on nationality, gender, motive, etc.
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There is word on CNN!

But we don’t know if it is possible if others are involved.
 
Samson01 said:
“An arrest is imminent…” From a lot of sources in Boston. Giving the nature of the case and danger of entry, pace of planning entry…he has very little chance of living through this…IMHO.
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Well, we’ll just have to see how it plays out. If you’ll recall, they initially arrested the wrong person in the Atlanta Olympic bombing. They may take a likely suspect into custody to prevent more incidents or them running/disappearing even if they don’t have an air-tight case or even certainty he’s really involved.
 
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