Far right marchers rally amid tensions over Woolrich killing

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They need to allow a Baptist church to be built in the Middle of Mecca. This makes a lot of sense. My friends from the Kingdom of SA did give me post cards of there and there are some picturesque sites there.

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BroomWagon said:
They need to allow a Baptist church to be built in the Middle of Mecca. This makes a lot of sense. My friends from the Kingdom of SA did give me post cards of there and there are some picturesque sites there.
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I guess if Muslims decide to allow low-church Protestantism in Mecca that’s their business.
 
:pThe Xenophobia exists alright? When are the Saudis going to allow a Christian Church to be built in the Middle of Mecca? 😃
 
ringil said:
There LGBT division is a front to enrage Muslims. I am not permitted to link to a site with actual members which acknowledge this.
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Horse feathers. No self respecting Neo-Nazi would align with LGBT group. Also you haven’t refuted about the Jewish division.

Is this another example of Islamophobia phobia?
 
JMJSHJ said:
Horse feathers. No self respecting Neo-Nazi would align with LGBT group. Also you haven’t refuted about the Jewish division.

Is this another example of Islamophobia phobia?
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The LGBT group does not exist in the EDL. It is a front.

You are right that for me to describe the EDL as “neo-nazi” isn’t accurate. They have taken to accept affiliation with Israel- as it seems that combating Islam seems to be their current focus.

No doubt there are straight up Neo-nazi affiliated with the EDL however.

Yes I do have Islamophobia phobia (if you want to call it that) as I reject it and all ethnocentrism and xenophobia.

I strongly advocate diversity and multiculturalism. Diversity brings strength and human identity variance to a society.

I advocate the “salad bowl” not the “melting pot”.

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** Currently there are no official churches in Saudi Arabia of any Christian denomination**.[3] The small number of Saudi Arabian Christians meets in internet chat rooms and private meetings.[3] Foreign Christians may meet at church meetings held at one of several embassies after registering and showing their passport to prove foreign nationality, or by private assemblies in school gyms located in gated communities on Aramco grounds. They can also hold services in each others’ houses.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Saudi_Arabia#Churches
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Yes, there is xenophobia in this issue, that against Christians in Muslim countries.
 
liturgyluver said:
As I was saying: welfare systems-left wing-bad vs. freedom-right-wing-good. Yet another simplistic (and innacurate) analogy that is meaningless to most Europeans from across the political spectrum. Definitions of freedom and basic rights are poles apart.

A more interesting exam question would be why those outside the US don’t share or subscribe to its perception of its so-called freedoms. But at the end of the day Americans should decide for America, and it would be rather nice for us to be able to do the same.
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Look, there are fundamental truths that apply in any country regardless of political tradition. I think someone said that “the problem with socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.” Was that some narrow-minded American tea party activist? No, it was a former prime minister of the UK. UK is subject to the same laws of nature that America is subject to: if the only people who are reproducing are the ones coming from cultures who don’t have much knowledge or respect for the rule of law, religious freedom and the like, then don’t be surprised if you wake up one day to find that the country you were born in has changed for the worse.

And as for your last point, if you don’t want Americans to chime in on issues in the UK then maybe you shouldn’t post on forums with a majority of Americans. 🤷 I like it when people from different countries chime in on American issues - it offers a different perspective even if I don’t agree - but suit yourself.

Ishii
 
estesbob said:
I hope that the police can keep a lid on radical islamists as escalation of violence is surely their aim.

Xenophobic opportunists. Islam is better than this.
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I hope that the police can keep a lid on the EDL as an escalation in violence is surely their aim.

Xenophobic opportunists. England is better than this.
 
ringil said:
I hope that the police can keep a lid on the EDL as an escalation in violence is surely their aim.

Xenophobic opportunists. England is better than this.
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They have done a lot better with EDL than they have radical islamists.
 
I don’t know about the EDL. I do know that the Western (formerly Christian) world is locked in a death struggle with Islam and most people don’t know it. In fact, a lot of people seem perfectly happy to roll over and die… like they’re so ashamed of coming from a noble and prosperous culture that they actually want to lose. So maybe Islam will win and the few Christians will return to hiding in cellars. But it will either be one force or the other… it cannot be both. Even if people want to give up on Christ, that won’t matter to Islam. It will be sharia or else fire and the sword.

It’s funny the way the terms “fascist” and “fascism” get thrown around. Unlike Communism, which is wedded to a specific ideology (Marxism) and religion (atheism), fascism is just a political position that, like democracy, has both left and right expressions (left wing: Mussolini and Hitler; right wing: Dollfuss and Franco). It’s like calling someone a “monarchist”. OK… so what?
 
Francoist said:
I don’t know about the EDL. I do know that the Western (formerly Christian) world is locked in a death struggle with Islam and most people don’t know it. In fact, a lot of people seem perfectly happy to roll over and die… like they’re so ashamed of coming from a noble and prosperous culture that they actually want to lose. So maybe Islam will win and the few Christians will return to hiding in cellars. But it will either be one force or the other… it cannot be both. Even if people want to give up on Christ, that won’t matter to Islam. It will be sharia or else fire and the sword.

It’s funny the way the terms “fascist” and “fascism” get thrown around. Unlike Communism, which is wedded to a specific ideology (Marxism) and religion (atheism), fascism is just a political position that, like democracy, has both left and right expressions (left wing: Mussolini and Hitler; right wing: Dollfuss and Franco). It’s like calling someone a “monarchist”. OK… so what?
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And every time an incident like this hacking death takes place you see more outrage against the people upset about it than the people who did it.
 
ringil said:
I hope that the police can keep a lid on the EDL as an escalation in violence is surely their aim.

Xenophobic opportunists. England is better than this.
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like i said earlier,i dont belong there because of a few within the group,not the group itself.

watch the second and third video,here the person is trying to get over what is on most of the peoples mind every day in the UK.

the last video is a muslim in the edl listen to wgat he says,and tell me if he is wrong.

englishdefenceleague.org/edl-news-2/1927-edl-hate-all-muslims-apparently
 
Francoist said:
It’s funny the way the terms “fascist” and “fascism” get thrown around. Unlike Communism, which is wedded to a specific ideology (Marxism) and religion (atheism), fascism is just a political position that, like democracy, has both left and right expressions (left wing: Mussolini and Hitler; right wing: Dollfuss and Franco). It’s like calling someone a “monarchist”. OK… so what?
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“fascism” is a word liberals like to throw around to insult those with whom they disagree. Of course what the liberals don’t understand is that fascism is not strictly a “right-wing” ideology as you point out.

Ishii
 
58 people were arrested today outside of Westminster, and apparently they weren’t from the EDL.
The Metropolitan Police said the 58 people arrested for breaches of the Public Order Act were from the UAF(Unite Against Fascism) protest. [bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22739189](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22739189)
 
Seamus_L said:
58 people were arrested today outside of Westminster, and apparently they weren’t from the EDL.
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                             The Metropolitan Police said the 58 people arrested for breaches of the Public Order Act were from the UAF(Unite Against Fascism) protest. [bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22739189](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22739189)
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Trotskyism is of the devil.
 
liturgyluver said:
As I was saying: welfare systems-left wing-bad vs. freedom-right-wing-good. Yet another simplistic (and innacurate) analogy that is meaningless to most Europeans from across the political spectrum. Definitions of freedom and basic rights are poles apart.

A more interesting exam question would be why those outside the US don’t share or subscribe to its perception of its so-called freedoms. But at the end of the day Americans should decide for America, and it would be rather nice for us to be able to do the same.
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You have to admire the dedication/time that many American posters put into talking at us though.
 
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