Fatalism?

[GaryTaylor]

To find and kill ignorance.

Lots of predestined condemned walking around. And from what I’m hearing, also they go to hell where they eternally suffer no longer in ignorance. Wow, talk about fate.

 

[davidv]

Just check the Catholic Encyclopedia…I’ve done it, I’m sure you can. Unless teachings change.
John

Why should I check the encylopedia? It is not a Church document. As such it is not an official source of Church teachings. Its editors are not protected by the charism of infallibility.

In any case, citing the encylopedia does not answer the question. I asked for specifics.

 

[Bookcat]

Not what your Church says…the first part.

That is why I said negative.

 

[Bookcat]

Co-worker in what is already designed!

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God includes Man yes as a co- worker. Again tis not a “play written in advance” with players taking their parts and reading their lines…

 

[Bookcat]

That is wrong at least within your faith. Everything is done at the moment of creation.

Are you going to tell me about my children too?

I am quite aware of my Faith…for I hold and profess it in its entirety.

As I noted.

R*. Negative *

My other responses too remain the same.

 

[Bahman]

Are you going to tell me about my children too?

I am quite aware of my Faith…for I hold and profess it in its entirety.

As I noted.

R*. Negative *

My other responses too remain the same.

You are contracting yourself in at least two places: 1) Can you go to another place you are not supposed to? Your answer is no. 2) Do you have a fate? You answer is again no. Could you please review your answers and thoughts.

Now you are practically don’t make any argument.

 

[Bookcat]

You are contracting yourself in at least two places.

R. *Negative
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[Bahman]

R. *Negative
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This is funny. You need to provide some argument to let that discussion flows.

Suppose in God’s sees you are in the hell. Can you change this situation? No. Can I define this as your fate? Of course yes. Your answer is no to this question which is in contradiction with the former answer.

By the way am I correct with the following statement: God existence, God’s knowledge and very act of creation are same.

 

[Bookcat]

This

Same answer.

One may read the various posts already there.

 

[Bookcat]

By the way am I correct with the following statement: God existence, God’s knowledge and very act of creation are same.

R. Negative.

 

[Bahman]

R. Negative.

How do you define it?

 

[Bookcat]

How do you define it?

scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2.htm

scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p4.htm#II

 

[Bahman]

scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2.htm

scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p4.htm#II

How do you define it? You said you profess your belief then you give me links! I need a simple definition. Something you can summarize it in a few lines. I would do the same if you wish.

 

[Bookcat]

scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2.htm

scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p4.htm#II

First link should have been: scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p1.htm

 

[Bookcat]

*I am a Christian *- that is what I believe and profess.

 

[Bahman]

*I am a Christian *- that is what I believe and profess.

I assume that is the end of our discussion.