Fatalism?

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Bookcat said:
Not going to keep going round and round with you.

See my posts above.

I will leave you also with some quotes from the Catechism. What we actually believe.

Catechism:

1730 God created man a rational being, conferring on him the dignity of a person who can initiate and control his own actions. “God willed that man should be ‘left in the hand of his own counsel,’ so that he might of his own accord seek his Creator and freely attain his full and blessed perfection by cleaving to him.”

1731 Freedom is the power, rooted in reason and will, to act or not to act, to do this or that, and so to perform deliberate actions on one’s own responsibility. By free will one shapes one’s own life…
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I want an argument not a quote form other people. They are very people who gave you your very wrong belief, fatalism.
 
Bahman said:
**I want an argument not a quote form other people. **They are very people who gave you your very wrong belief, fatalism.
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See bold above. If this is true, why do all arguments get rejected without valid reasons?
 
Bahman said:
But you don’t know what B is since you cannot change your fate!
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I do know -A was not to respond and B was to respond. I first choose A and then changed my mind and chose B.

Now I will choose A after this post.
 
Bookcat said:
I do know -A was not to respond and B was to respond. I first choose A and then changed my mind and chose B.

Now I will choose A after this post.
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You just follow the order as it should be. That is your fate.
 
Bookcat said:
Nope.
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“Nope” is not a good argument. You have A and B. God knows that you do A. You don’t know what God knows hence you have to choose. Unfortunately you always choose A, the right one. Hence you cannot change your fate unless you could do B which is logically impossible hence you cannot change your fate.
 
Bahman said:
Can you do B? No. That is very definition of fatalism. 😃
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You can’t do it because you didn’t choose to do it. To do it despite choosing otherwise would indicate a lack of freedom of the will, because then apparently you would be FORCED to do it against your will. So it seems like we are all in agreeance.
 
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