Fatima miracle of the sun?

[nilofc]

I wasn’t trying to suggest that the miracle was made by the beast, I was just describing my chain of thought, and wondering if anyone else had thought about this possibility.

I think I’m really looking for someone to assure me that it wasn’t from an evil source.

Only God can make miracles. The devil doesn’t and he can’t.

If Mama Mary performed miracles, its because of the power of God. The apostles performed miracles but it is only because the Holy Spirit is within them.

 

[chrislky]

Dear Charlie,

I agree totally with what you have said, but did not our Lord asked us to discern the sign of the times regarding His Second Coming. For those who believe in God and live what He taught, no problem. For those who does not believe in Jesus and those who believe in Him but do not follow what He taught, that is the problem. Anyway, we’ll just try our very best to win souls for God
through prayer, reparation and through sharing His teachings to others living them out in our daily life.

Below are some of the words of our Lord to St. Faustina Kowalska of the Divine Mercy Devotion. (Year 1930)

• You will prepare the world for My final coming. (Diary 429)
• Speak to the world about My mercy … It is a sign for the end times. After it will come the Day of Justice. While there is still time, let them have recourse to the fountain of My mercy. (Diary 848)
• Tell souls about this great mercy of Mine, because the awful day, the day of My justice, is near. (Diary 965).

For the glory of God & salvation of poor sinners.

Chrislky

 

[cranster]

“To the Priest, Our Lady’s Beloved Sons”, the Marian Movement of Priests, blue book, maybe you’ll understand more.

May God bless us all.

Chrislky

I’m aware of that book. In case you don’t know, we are not allowed to talk about apparitions here that are either not yet, or not approved.
God Bless,
Kevin

 

[chrislky]

Very sorry, message noted.

Chrislky

 

[cranster]

Very sorry, message noted.

Chrislky

I wouldn’t worry about it… it was just an fyi.

 

[BlogApostille]

was predicted by the children months in advance, skeptics say it was a meteorlogical event, how can you predict a meteorlogical event months in advance?

1. skeptics say it was crowd hysteria, how can it be crowd hysteria when it was seen many miles away
2. one of the secrets stated russia will spread her errors throughout the world, this did happen
3. how can you explain the non believers at the site of the miracle claiming something did in deed happen
4. the third secret, a vision of the death of the Pope and other religious figures, which did happen on may 13 the same day the children first saw the visions the odds of happening are one in 365

 

[Melchior6]

However, the miracles of Christ didn’t involve something as universally common as the sun.

Which brings us back to square one. This miracle would have been seen on a global level if the sun was truly behaving as erratically as claimed. Mass hysteria is a logical assumption to make.

Well, I don’t know how we can assume that these witnesses were credible. If the sun truly “danced” and “fell” I contend that it would have been seen everywhere. If not, thousands of folks who were following this apparition were so into the moment, they thought they saw the sun do what the sun really didn’t.

Peace,
CM

I know this is a very old thread but it has caught my interest. As someone who has studied the Fatima miracle extensively, I think the conclusion that emerges is that the actual sun did not really move from the sky. If that would happen all the planets in our solar system would go out of orbit resulting in a massive cataclsym. If you study the reports you will see that the desciptions imply that there was some kind of spinning disk in the sky which was brightly flaring and changing colors while the real sun was hidden behind clouds. So yes the people at Fatima did experience something spectacular a vison of sorts which no human could reproduce at the time and although it was not the actual sun they were witnessing, I think it is still a wonderous sign from God just the same.

 

[You]

“The war is going to end. But if people do not stop offending God, another, even worse one will begin in the reign of Pius XI. When you shall see a night illuminated by an unknown light know that this is the great sign that God gives you that He is going to punish the world for its many crimes by means of war, hunger, and persecution of the Church and the Holy Father. To prevent it, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart and the Communion of reparation on the first Saturdays.

“London, January 25th, 1938. The Aurora Borealis rarely seen in Southern or Western Europe spread fear in parts of Portugal and lower Austria tonight while thousands of Britons were brought running into the streets in wonderment. The ruddy glow led many to think half the city was ablaze. The Windsor Fire Department was called out thinking that Windsor Castle was afire. The lights were clearly seen in Italy, Spain, and even Gibraltar. The glow bathing snow-clad mountain tops in Austria and Switzerland was a beautiful sight but firemen turned out to chase non-existent fires. Portuguese villagers rushed in fright from their homes fearing the end of the world.”

Pius XI Pope from 6 February 1922 - 10 February 1939

Second World War, global military conflict lasted from 1939 to 1945

The Munich Pact
The agreement was signed in the early hours of 30 September 1938. The purpose of the conference was to discuss the future of the Sudetenland in the face of territorial demands made by Adolf Hitler. The agreement was signed by Nazi Germany, France, Britain, and Italy. The Sudetenland was of immense strategic importance to Czechoslovakia, as most of its border defenses were situated there, and many of its banks were located there as well.
Because the state of Czechoslovakia was not invited to the conference, Czechs and Slovaks sometimes call the Munich Agreement the Munich Dictate. The phrase Munich Betrayal is also used because the military alliance Czechoslovakia had with France was not honoured.
Czechoslovakia was invaded the following March;
it obvious that Poland would be next; nobody believed that Hitler would stop with Czechoslovakia, and everybody realised that war was the only way Hitler would be stopped.
Czechoslovakia was one of the few remaining democracies in central/eastern Europe. By annexing it, Hitler was destroying a democracy - which alarmed Britain, France and even President Rossevelt of the USA.
The invasion of Czechoslovakia was so obviously unjust, that it gave the British the moral high gound; when war loomed, Britain was able to go to war ‘to defend the right’, rather than simply for self-interest.

From 1918 to 1938, after the break up of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, more than 3 million ethnic Germans were living in the Czech part of the newly created state of Czechoslovakia.
Sudeten German pro-Nazi leader Konrad Henlein offered the Sudeten German Party (SdP) as the agent for Hitler’s campaign. Henlein met with Hitler in Berlin on March 28, 1938, where he was instructed to raise demands unacceptable to the Czechoslovak government led by president Edvard Beneš. On April 24, the SdP issued the Carlsbad Decrees, demanding autonomy for the Sudetenland and the freedom to profess Nazi ideology. If Henlein’s demands were granted, the Sudetenland would then be able to align itself with Nazi Germany.