Federal Data: 16.4M Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in 2016, 2018 Elections

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Federal Data: 16.4M Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in 2016, 2018 Elections​

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JOHN BINDER

10 Apr 2020 Breitbart News

About 16.4 million mail-in ballots went missing in the 2016 and 2018 elections, data provided to Breitbart News reveals.

The data from the U.S. Election Assistance Commission and the Election Administration and Voting Surveys for 2016 and 2018, provided by the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF), shows that between the 2016 and 2018 elections, roughly 16.4 million ballots mailed to registered voters went missing.

In the 2018 election, about 42.4 million ballots were mailed to registered voters. Of those mailed, more than one million were undeliverable, more than 430,000 were rejected, and nearly 10.5 million went missing.

The 2016 election showed similar discrepancies. That year, about 41.6 million ballots were mailed to registered voters. Of those mailed, more than 568,000 were undeliverable, nearly 320,000 were rejected, and close to six million went missing.

“Putting the election in the hands of the United States Postal Service would be a catastrophe. In 2018 and 2016, there were 16 million missing and misdirected ballots,” PILF President J. Christian Adams said in a statement. He went on:
These represent 16 million opportunities for someone to cheat. Absentee ballot fraud is the most common; the most expensive to investigate; and can never be reversed after an election. The status quo was already bad for mail balloting. The proposed emergency fix is worse.
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Los Angeles County, California, for instance, had nearly 1.4 million mail-in ballots go missing in the 2018 election, while Maricopa County, Arizona saw 408,000 mail-in ballots go missing. . . .
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The USPS still has not located my corporation’s business taxes. Never mind all the confidential and personal information contained therein. Luckily, I of course have multiple copies, but unless everyone does signature confirmation with their ballots, they’ll never know if they got lost.
 
In my case, no one knows. They never turned up despite requiring signature confirmation (had made it as far as the Post Office nearest the IRS destination in Kansas City, MO), and they said I can open a missing mail case which I just did to help do a deeper investigation, but also said if the mail appeared damaged, they would like have destroyed it. Ultimately, it seemingly was of no value to pay for guaranteed delivery and signature confirmation if they can just say :my bad, we lost it."
 
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Can’t help but think about flight insurance. When they loose it there, it is so much worse. Lol. Of course, I share your frustration.
 
One thing that has not been alleged (because it cannot be shown and is only speculation) is that these missing ballots had any deleterious effect on the elections.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
One thing that has not been alleged (because it cannot be shown and is only speculation) is that these missing ballots had any deleterious effect on the elections.
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Is that the standard by which we judge the situation?
 
KMC said:
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LeafByNiggle:
One thing that has not been alleged (because it cannot be shown and is only speculation) is that these missing ballots had any deleterious effect on the elections.
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Is that the standard by which we judge the situation?
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Judging by the false conclusions drawn from this factoid, yes. Yes it is. Because then we would not draw those false conclusions.

Now, if the discussion were about efficiency of the USPS in generally, then the fact that these ballots went “missing” would be more relevant.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
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KMC:
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LeafByNiggle:
One thing that has not been alleged (because it cannot be shown and is only speculation) is that these missing ballots had any deleterious effect on the elections.
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Is that the standard by which we judge the situation?
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Judging by the false conclusions drawn from this factoid, yes. Yes it is. Because then we would not draw those false conclusions.
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If you don’t know the contents of the ballots, how do you know false conclusions are drawn?
 
sloancaprice said:
What does 'gone missing" mean?
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Judging from the C-type categories in the survey from the US Election Assistance Commision , I think that it means the difference ballots that were sent and those returned as votes, less those that for a variety of reasons could not be so returned. IOW, the ballots of folks who requested mail-in ballots, but did not use them.
 
That isn’t a proper question legally. And the reason is simple. Every single impediment you impose on voting has a negative effect on the franchise. Therefore the burden is high to proove need.
 
Maximus1 said:
That isn’t a proper question legally. And the reason is simple. Every single impediment you impose on voting has a negative effect on the franchise. Therefore the burden is high to proove need.
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Doesn’t the loss of 16 million ballots disenfranchise those who cast those ballots?
 
KMC said:
Doesn’t the loss of 16 million ballots disenfranchise those who cast those ballots?
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But were they “lost?” The article keeps saying they “went missing,” but doesn’t define what they mean by that.
Did 16 million voters report not receiving mail-in ballots that they had requested? If so, were they replaced by the applicable elections authority?
Were the ballots completed and put back in the mail, and never received for counting? In which case, how do we know that? What was the tracking mechanism that showed they had been completed and mailed back? And if there was such a tracking mechanism, why doesn’t it show where the ballots ended up?

Enquiring minds want to know.
 
KMC said:
Doesn’t the loss of 16 million ballots disenfranchise those who cast those ballots?
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Who said that they were lost rather than simply not returned?
In the latter case the voter chose not to exercise the franchise.
 
dvdjs said:
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KMC:
Doesn’t the loss of 16 million ballots disenfranchise those who cast those ballots?
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Who said that they were lost rather than simply not returned?
In the latter case the voter chose not to exercise the franchise.
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But we don’t know. That is the problem. In the former, there was either negligence or fraud. How about developing a process to ensure every ballot cast is truly cast?
 
puer.dei said:
It’s also the problem in using this badly -written article to draw any conclusions at all.
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Mr. Adams has a record of false accusation of fraud. Every can go to the survey that Iinked and look at the data that gave rise to his ill-conceived claim.
 
Democrats claim they fear foreign interference in our Elections, yet Democrats consistently fight against voter-identification requirements. These 2 are conflicting and inconsistent.
 
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