Federal judge enjoins separation of migrant children

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Gods hearing our cries for justice and heard the cries of the Catholic brothers and sisters in cages with their children taken away!
 
How can people still justify the ripping of terrified children from their caregiver’s arms and keep them separated? Do such people feel a true, heartfelt love towards these families which is a part of Christ’s commandment to all Christians? How can such people consider themselves to be Christians? I, know, I know, it’s all the caregiver’s fault and we therefore are allowed to commit evil to protect our boarders!
 
Because children shouldn’t be in prisons or in bays full of undocumented adult strangers that could harm them.
 
Do you, Monica83, feel a true, heartfelt love towards these families?
 
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'Anyone who welcomes one little child like this in my name welcomes me.

But anyone who is the downfall of one of these little ones who have faith in me would be better drowned in the depths of the sea with a great millstone round his neck.

Alas for the world that there should be such causes of failing! Causes of failing indeed there must be, but alas for anyone who provides them!’

Matthew 18:5-7

The direct words of our Lord Jesus Christ, to whom we should be paying heed and obeisance, rather than to the golden idol Mr Trump.
 
Yeah thats why I think the children should be protected and not in prison around God knows who where they could be assaulted.
 
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How can people still justify the ripping of terrified children from their caregiver’s arms and keep them separated? Do such people feel a true, heartfelt love towards these families which is a part of Christ’s commandment to all Christians? How can such people consider themselves to be Christians? I, know, I know, it’s all the caregiver’s fault and we therefore are allowed to commit evil to protect our boarders
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So what is your solution to the immigration crisis?

I am also so glad God is not needed to judge those who believe differently that you two. He’s got you here to pass all the judgement possible. Very glad two anonymous posters on the internet get to determine who is and isn’t Christian, Catholic, faithful, and who will go to hell. Way to be the accepting and tolerant fine folks of the left.
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Are there then no alternatives to separating families or housing them in prison over a relatively long term period? How about special housing? How about expediting their hearings?
 
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Could the downfall of them be in prison? Yes or no?
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Small children who have been torn from the familial bosom by force have already suffered a grievous downfall, and at the hands of OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. We are all complicit in this downfall by having allowed it, and it would be no more than we deserved if the Lord were to rain down fire and brimstone on this benighted country for our willing and wicked embrace of iniquity.
 
Ripping children from the arms of a mother is just as bad as ripping a child out of her womb in abortion. God see’s this injustice.
 
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This whole situation is being used as political fodder.

THAT is the biggest issue here. This isn’t new - this has been happening for years and years and years. The whole thing is political fodder - and I’ll say it - for the left.
 
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They are both choices the mother knowingly makes.
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Not so. Many went in the border station seeking asylum, and instead got locked up, and their child stolen from them.

Its like going to the ER for stomach pain, and the doctor says, we need to remove your baby out of your body because its in the way.
 
Does that mean Democrats have been tougher on immigration? That’s not the claim Republicans, especially Trump, have made.
 
That’s quite a bold statement you’re making there.

I would rather see the child separated and kept out of the prisons / detainment centers. That doesn’t mean I don’t have faith in God, it just means that we disagree on what is the worse experience. I don’t think any child should be forced into prison for the decisions of their parents, and so, while I lament the necessity of it and wish it wasn’t the case, I believe that it is far better to temporarily separate them than to subject the children to the detainment centers.

It’s a bad situation both ways, and neither proposed option completely fulfills the requirements of justice and mercy. That is why it is a matter for prudential judgment.

Either way, this is nothing new, and the fact that it’s only become an issue to so many now show that it is driven more by politics than morality.
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They are both choices the mother knowingly makes.
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Not so. Many went in the border station seeking asylum, and instead got locked up, and their child stolen from them.

Its like going to the ER for stomach pain, and the doctor says, we need to remove your baby out of your body because its in the way.
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Asylum seekers or not, we have a right to detain them while we review their background. It’s not great, and I wish we hadn’t reached a point that such reviews have become necessary, but we have. We have substantial evidence that we can’t just let them go and expect them to show up for their court dates, so this has become our only option. It is as much the fault of the people who took advantage of the system as it is the fault of the current (or past) administration. There is plenty of blame to go around.
 
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Not at all! Under Obama, they did “catch and release” until their trial date. Most did not return for their trial.
 
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Ripping children from the arms of a mother is just as bad as ripping a child out of her womb in abortion.
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It is thoroughly wrong to equate abortion, which is an act of direct murder of a child with an act of taking a child from its mother. The former is wrong in all instances and circumstances, and the latter is not. Even the worst instance of a child being taken from its mother is not as bad as killing that child.
 
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