Feminism in Catholicism

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1935 The equality of men rests essentially on their dignity as persons and the rights that flow from it:
CCC 2335 Each of the two sexes is an image of the power and tenderness of God, with equal dignity though in a different way.
 
know for a fact that there were women who went to college, owned property, and had bank accounts long before the feminist movement.
Who is denying that? My post is talking about the laws. It wasn’t illegal for women to get a job. But it wasn’t illegal for them to be fired for getting pregnant, for a potential employer to choose someone less qualified because he’s a man instead, etc.
In the past and in todays world, women many times choose the career first and then try for the family next. Problem is, our bodies don’t wait.
Surely that doesn’t concern you and I. If they want to wait or have babies earlier, I honestly couldn’t care less. As long as we’re honest about it (e.g. Having babies earlier will affect a career, having babies later will be harder for many women).
. I am constantly defending my choice to stay home and care for my family 90% of my time. It gets so old and over the years I have heard other women who either worked part time or stayed home completely have to do the same thing. Just the same as working women have to defend their work choice
Your experience doesn’t necessarily contradict my statement. I know that all women have to explain themselves to another group.

There’s one SAHD here that said he is one because his wife has better insurance and has a higher salary.

As Catholics, we really shouldn’t sit here and respect people less for doing the best for their families. I know some women who honestly shouldn’t spend lots of time with their kids (sorry) or their dads are simply more nurturing and patient than their moms. And let’s be real, kid loove dads at home too.
 
I’ll defend you on this one. Just because some people were given something doesn’t mean there wasn’t a problem.
 
But it wasn’t illegal for them to be fired for getting pregnant,
This protected the company, the mother, the baby and families.
Surely that doesn’t concern you and I. If they want to wait or have babies earlier, I honestly couldn’t care less.
I do care. I care about women, their health and their family.
 
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This protected the company, the mother, the baby and families.
This is an interesting and rather depressing take, given that it meant pregnant women’s incomes were cut off and they would be struggling to support their families.

Rich/privileged women hardly needed feminism or equal rights in various aspects.
I care about women, their health and their family.
you think a pregnant women being fired for no reason other than their pregnancy is a good thing. . . .?!

That aside, there’s a difference between caring about birth rates/the age of women having babies and caring about women and families in general.

A woman waiting till 30 to get married and have children + not caring if she has 1 or 6 has nothing to do with us.

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Just because some people were given something doesn’t mean there wasn’t a problem.
Yup. Rich and privileged women could have gotten a job to ‘pass the time’ if they really wanted. Being paid less wasn’t detrimental, they could inherit wealth and property, and so on. It was the working class women who desperately wanted more income that felt the brunt of sexism.

Sexism has even benefitted rich/privileged women in some areas. Some of them could actually afford college degrees to pass the time while finding for a husband, or hiring housekeepers, chefs etc so they could easily care for their children while shaking their heads at poorer women who wanted to be working mothers. Or even not wanting to be mothers at all because of the intense stress it would have.

It reminds me of a YouTuber with a college degree that told her viewers that they can always depend on their husbands’ life insurance instead of a degree (in the event of his death)…while her videos are monetized and she’s receiving income.

Or those traditional femininity blogs that get paid lots of money for ads while telling women that their femininity is being threatened because they’re making more than their husbands.

The problem with today’s identity politics is it implies as if allll women/POC/etc are suffering the same way. Money helps.
 
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you think a pregnant women being fired for no reason other than their pregnancy is a good thing!
There also used to be liability laws and family laws created to protect the unborn child and mother in case something should happen. Medical care wasn’t always as readily available as it is today in the U.S.

With that you are putting words in my mouth and claiming I am saying things I have not said and seem to be insulting me in your posts.

We will just need to agree to disagree.

In all charity I am ending my conversation and wish you a good day. 🙂

God bless.

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The point isn’t about trying to predict what people ‘should’ want. The point is about letting people be free to make their own decisions without criticism.
 
It’s actually WORTH money when you consider the “free” childcare, home cooking, transportation, and cleaning. I always have a big reality check whenever it’s time to renew life insurance. It’s amazing what my stay-at-home motherhood is actually worth and how much money my husband would need if I (heaven forbid) got flattened by a bus, (or met my Maker another way).

That said, to counter a post upthread, I don’t think it’s “ungodly” of me to be job searching.
 
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I remember reading a financial planning article on life insurance and how it is recommended that housewives also get life insurance. They may not be earning money but they do provide value to the household in terms of what they do at home.
 
Keeping a household going, especially one with children, is absolutely worth money and quite a lot of it. Just try to hire a full-time housekeeper plus a nanny. 😬 😬
 
I am not offended. I just think that you are completely wrong about this particular subject.
 
That’s the thing, though. I have absolutely no problem with the views you choose to have or the life you choose to live.

But I will fight if someone tries to take that choice away from somebody else.
 
The more general point I was making was that you were appealing to your own right to make your own choices. Which is pretty much the whole point of this thing called ‘movement’. If it wasn’t for history and political news, I think we would be on the same side.
 
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