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rlg94086
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Weird. Do they have partisan judges, or was the reporter just really sloppy and meant “Republican appointed” and “Democratic appointed?”
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oldcelt
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Justices are elected to a 10 year term in PA, and run under their party if they choose.
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rlg94086
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Wow…that is odd. Everywhere I’ve lived justices are considered non-partisan. They, of course, may lean conservative or liberal, since they are human beings, but they are expected to decide law based on the merits of the case and the meaning and spirit of the law.
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oldcelt
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I’m not sure…but it might have something to do with PA being a Commonwealth and not a state. I’ve lived here all my life and still can’t figure out what that means in real terms.
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andrewstx
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There was voter ID law here in Texas, which was to me rightfully overturned by the courts. I had a stoke 8 years ago which made me ineleigable to drive, so I had to go to the courthouse and buy an official ID which before the voter ID law was revoked so I could vote in the Republican Primary.
It came out on TV news that Texas is now sending notices to living people saying they are dead and unable to vote.
I don’t get it.
It came out on TV news that Texas is now sending notices to living people saying they are dead and unable to vote.
I don’t get it.
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tarboy
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The best things Democrats can do for these mysterious voters is get them an ID
An ID is essential to get Govt benefits, banking, healthcare, etc.
An ID is essential to get Govt benefits, banking, healthcare, etc.
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He_Man
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You got your ID. I fail to see the problem.
AGain, you have to have an ID to buy a gun. You need an ID to vote. Both are constitutional rights. And no one complains about the former.
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sedonaman
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There is only one reason to oppose voter ID laws, and that is to allow the ineligible to vote for Democrat candidates. Period. :sad_yes:
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andrewstx
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The problem is that I had to purchase with my own very limited funds the ID for the only purpose of voting.
The stroke had the end effect of keeping me from working as well as driving, a fact I am not proud of, it also made me incapable of grooming and even dressing myself. I had to get SSI and medicaid at a young age just to survive. Both of those things are opposed by the Texas Government.
I don’t think having money is a need just to vote and we are supposed to have universal suffrage. In Texas that has not been the case for a very long time. We have had literacy tests, poll taxes, and the attempt to keep people from voting with voter ID, and now they are sending mail to people informing them falsely that they are dead, to limit voting.
My own father could not vote for a time becuase he could not afford the poll tax.
I used to think of myself as a macho man, never seen without a cigarette between my lips or cigar. All of that contributed to my stroke. How quickly the proud have fallen.
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ComputerGeek25
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But in PA, they are making the ID free, so it makes this point moot.
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manualman
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By this convoloted logic, the State of Texas is attempting to disenfranchise you by failing to pick you up and give you a ride to the polling place too, right? These days, that probably costs you more than the ID! Like it or not photo ID is a basic necessity for a LOT of activities of daily life in America these days. For example, my credit card is old enough that the signature bar on the back wore off and I get carded fairly often just trying to use my credit card! I can’t imagine how you folks with no valid photo ID manage.
Last I heard there were 10 million illegal immigrants in the USA. While I believe we have a fundamentally unjust and broken immigration system, I ALSO don’t believe these people should be allowed to vote in their current status (non-citizens here illegally). Requiring ID is a simple means of ensuring that a voter is who he says he is. Nothing more insidious than that.
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sedonaman
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You can afford cigarettes, a computer, and an internet service provider, but you can’t afford a one-time fee for an ID? Gimme a break.
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ComputerGeek25
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Priorities.
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superamazingman
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And that is the case for most of the new voter id laws I’ve seen.
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andrewstx
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I gave up smoking, the computer was a gift used from a friend, and I don’t pay for an internet service provider, my roomate does.
Any other criticisms?
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sedonaman
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He is also disenfranchised by the state’s failure to give him a ride to the registrar’s office so he can register to vote. Let’s also not forget that the registrar would have to provide someone to fill out the forms and sign with an “X” in case he didn’t know how to write, or any case for that matter.
Like I said before, these are all just excuses to enfranchise the constitutionally ineligible.
“Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove he is insured … but not prove he is eligible to vote in our elections.” – Ben Stein
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sedonaman
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Yes. It is two years between elections; that’s 730.48 days. Why don’t you save a few pennies each day until you have enough to pay for an ID? Even only one cent a day will turn into $7.30 at the end of two years; an ID can’t be that expensive. And please don’t come back with, “But it’s less than 60 days to the next election.” You’ve had plenty of time to save up, so I guess you’ll have to sit this one out through your own fault.
“Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove he is insured … but not prove he is eligible to vote in our elections.” – Ben Stein
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JMJSHJ
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As another poster pointed out, there are more costs to voting than just the id as you might have to pay gasoline and with current prices that could be more than just the id. Should that be free as well?
Perhaps the problem you are truly having is not the expensive price of a voter id but the lack of funds to live day to day. If you had more money that this wouldn’t be an issue then perhaps you would agree with this law?
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oldcelt
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Pa. high court takes hard look at voter ID law
My guess is that this law will not be fully implemented, if at all, for the Nov. election…it will be phased in over the next several years.
John
usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012/09/13/pa-high-court-takes-hard-look-at-voter-id-law/57776756/1
My guess is that this law will not be fully implemented, if at all, for the Nov. election…it will be phased in over the next several years.
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andrewstx
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If you had read my post you would be aware that I havbe already bought the state ID.Yes. It is two years between elections; that’s 730.48 days. Why don’t you save a few pennies each day until you have enough to pay for an ID? Even only one cent a day will turn into $7.30 at the end of two years; an ID can’t be that expensive. And please don’t come back with, “But it’s less than 60 days to the next election.” You’ve had plenty of time to save up, so I guess you’ll have to sit this one out through your own fault.
“Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove he is insured … but not prove he is eligible to vote in our elections.” – Ben Stein
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