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sedonaman
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Then why did you bring this up as a problem?
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superamazingman
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Umm… in that case, you just proved our point. Even for people in less-than-average situations, getting an id still isn’t that big of a deal.
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oldcelt
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In Pennsylvania, particularly rural counties, I have to disagree. My home county’s photo license center is open only two days per week. I feel quite certain that these types of situations were brought to the attention of the justices today.
And, statements like this don’t help, from another article:
thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/editorials-columns/roderick-random/voter-id-alone-can-t-give-state-to-romney-1.1363324
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sedonaman
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That means there are 208 days they are open between elections that you can get an ID. Like I said, these are just excuses to enfranchise the ineligible.
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ComputerGeek25
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oldcelt
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What about this year? And how do you get 208 days…ths law applies to all elections, not just Presidential.
And what about the statement by the State House Leader…the length some people will go to justify Republican shenanigans is mind boggling.
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rlg94086
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So, they have difficulty figuring out how to make it to a license center, available only 2 days per week, but they won’t have a difficulty making their 1 day, 1-2x per year to vote?
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oldcelt
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On election day there are organized caravans from both parties to help get people out. Also, many vote with their families before or after work shifts, hours when the license center is not open
Add to that the fact that only three people work at the center.
As I said earlier, based on the questioning, I think the PA Supreme Court will delay the implementation of this law until the particulars are ironed out…or expect heavy civil disobedience by poll workers.
Remember, there is not one iota of evidence of voter fraud in PA.
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sedonaman
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Like I told another poster, you’ll just have to sit this one out due to your own fault. It will have been 416 days since the 2008 election to get an ID from your state office that is open only 2 days per week.
Two days per week times 52 weeks per year times 2 years between election = 208 days.
So? If there was only one year between elections, that still leaves 104 days to get an ID.
What about it? The length some people will go to justify Democrat ballot box stuffing is mind boggling.
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oldcelt
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This law has only existed for a few months. Everything was fine before…no evidence of any voter fraud in PA. So you expect the elderly, disabled, etc. to make arrangements on such short notice? To wait in line for hours on end or not get there at all, all to correct a problem that didn’t exist for hundreds of years?Like I told another poster, you’ll just have to sit this one out due to your own fault. It will have been 416 days since the 2008 election to get an ID from your state office that is open only 2 days per week.
Two days per week times 52 weeks per year times 2 years between election = 208 days.
So? If there was only one year between elections, that still leaves 104 days to get an ID.
What about it? The length some people will go to justify Democrat ballot box stuffing is mind boggling.
And your reply regarding the State House leader shows that you are not taking this seriously.
If this is upheld in its entirety, which I doubt…vive la civil disobedience!
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pete_29
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It looks like my brother officers in the PA Dept. of Corrections can be expecting a higher class of inmate than usual.
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oldcelt
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I seriously doubt it…election boards in my area tend to be pretty tight-knit. They will not be committing any fraud because they know the people in their precinct…so they will have each other’s backs.
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J_Peterson
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I don’t get why this is even a debate. Either voting is a right or a privilage. Even $0.01 is too much to charge to vote.
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pete_29
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They each had better hope you are right.
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pete_29
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Who’s charging anything?
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sedonaman
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The opponents are bellyaching even in states where the ID is free.
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sedonaman
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Short notice? OK, let’s pull that thread. Two months ago was roughly 4 months to the election. That equates to at least 32 days the ID office is open.That’s not enough time?
How do the elderly, disabled, etc. get their checks accepted by merchants?Voter fraud dates back to the beginning.
I’m not taking it seriously because your lame excuses are a big joke.
Don’t get your way, so destroy society. :crying:
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oldcelt
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You are not taking it seriously because it exposes precisely what this is all about. Remember, PA residents have not yet even appealed to the federal level.Short notice? OK, let’s pull that thread. Two months ago was roughly 4 months to the election. That equates to at least 32 days the ID office is open.That’s not enough time?
Voter fraud dates back to the beginning.
I**'m not taking it seriously because your lame excuses are a big joke. **
Don’t get your way, so destroy society. :crying:
Regarding the elderly…again…people know them…just like when they vote.
Bit over the top on the destroy society thing, don’t you think? The poll workers will enforce the spirit of the law…just as they always have.
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J_Peterson
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Who’s charging anything?
That was me being a knee-jerk liberal. I misread the original story. Carry on.
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andrewstx
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What do you mean by “constitutionally innelligable”? I have no desire for non-citizens or illegal aliens to vote.
But literacy tests and poll taxes are not constitutional anyway, and no I don’t blame this on conservative republicans. Most of the laws to limit voting were passed when Texas was still a democrat state.
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